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Yes,it is.Germans welcomed those migrants,so they should take care of them as adults.But,as usual,made others pay for their own stupidity.Enforcing the European Dublin treaty rules every once in a while isn't an Anti-Polish plot.
It's a system every treaty member uses. You also use it with Lithuania and your other EU-members.
P.S Another typical german behaviour - german professor from Humboldt University show polish professor "his" silver cigarette case.
Polish professor checked and found polish gentry crest.....
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The European nations - Poland included - agreed on the Dublin procedures. If you don't want to handle these illegals, don't let them in, don't fingerprint them, don't process them. Or bypass the system completely. Plenty of other nations also keep both eyes closed and just let them through to Germany. But you don't get to agree to the system, use the system, and then not play by its rules.
Aldarion
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Then Germany should stop raising shit every time someone does a sane choice and returns the immigrants right where they had come from.Enforcing the European Dublin treaty rules every once in a while isn't an Anti-Polish plot.
It's a system every treaty member uses. You also use it with Lithuania and your other EU-members.
No disagreement there from me.
and germans welcomed all those migrants.Their problem,not ours.System was busted - by germans.
DarthOne
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I wouldn't call the creature wearing it as a skin-suit 'Germany'.
Dauerschriff
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1) Germany is an occupied territory since 1945. It was never sovereign to choose its values. no more no less than under the nazis. The post war propaganda and purges were... significant. Especially in business, politics, EDUCATION, MEDIAS.
2) Most Germans are old pensioneers and increasingly public workers that have been conditioned since birth (no home schooling allowed) to want the dissolution of deutschtum since birth: all humans are the same, there are no nation no culture that are hereditary. that want money to continue to flow, which means immigration, in their mind.
3) they forcibly timed with France, the historical enemy that is not a nation but a State masquerading as a people and push for an administrative universalism.
2) Most Germans are old pensioneers and increasingly public workers that have been conditioned since birth (no home schooling allowed) to want the dissolution of deutschtum since birth: all humans are the same, there are no nation no culture that are hereditary. that want money to continue to flow, which means immigration, in their mind.
3) they forcibly timed with France, the historical enemy that is not a nation but a State masquerading as a people and push for an administrative universalism.
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Then why they still do everything to control/enslave Poland,and ally with Moscov?
Bullshit. some german war criminals were punished,but most lived as important people.Dude who murdered blessed Ulma family for hiding jews lived as chief of police in one of german towns till he died.
They serve their state,like during WW2.State say be nice to migrants,so they are nice.If state said kill them,they would kill.
Nothing changed since frederic the thief.
Do not name it France.It is not even parody of France,only another mason creation.
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Morphic Tide
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...No? Nations are pretty wide things, and the Franks go a long way back and covered an even wider area than modern France.
Do you have a source on its founder Hugh Capet not being of Frankish heritage? His overall dynasty, though not exact Salic law bloodline (a practice of Frankish origin), ruled from 987 to 1792. From the moment it ceased being "West Francia" to the French Revolution.
The Ancien Regime's centralization you seem to be criticizing was closer to the Kingdom of France's end than its start and saw little change in what nationality comprised the ruling class. If anything the management became more French rather than less with the promotion of bureaucrats from lower and consequently more localized classes to replace the aristocrats with far more frequent and distant outbreeding and education opportunities.
There is no "natural" qualifier, nor are nations clean ethnic groups, and customary variance is routine. Nobody would ever consider Latin America's cultural and political situation remotely organic development and the bloodlines are only sporadically and partially mixed, yet nonetheless there exists a clear Mexican national identity. To say nothing of the incredibly long series of migration policies, population controls, and internal administrative border changes that created Ukraine.
What about the Parisian culture disqualifies it from the broad category of "French" that spans well over a thousand years? Those it impressed its dialect and cultural specifics on were mostly already mutually intelligible and identified themselves as fellow countrymen to a quite significant extent.
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I do. Franks and french have nothing to do with each others, They are gallic latin hybrid dominant.
Capet was Only King of the Frank "Rex Francorum" the idea of France did not existed at all under his time in 1000, if titles are you main interest. It only emerged on paper centuries later in the XII century. The usage of French as administrative language (or whatever it look like back then) emerged in the XVI century.
Capet was not the ancestor of the people. Franks were a small minority of invaders. They had no major impact on the demographic, beyond being the nobility.
French identity for the common people is a post 1789 construct of the French Revolution.
The increase of a bureaucratic class, is call a State. Hyper-centralized around the Parisian egality based familial system, from the famous jealousy, universalism and equalitarianism of the core french culture.
Emmanuel Todd work on Family model do show the extreme variety of familial structure. (following Strauss on that) on the territory.
It is pointless to speak of it, but french identity was forged by the Republican and Royal administration of the XIX century and late XVIII century. France is at core a continental colony. Corsican, Burgundians, Britons, Aquitans, Savoy, whatever have been colonized. Savoy beg the Swiss in the XIX century to take them in, instead of the French. Quite official story. denied to avoid a war. They got a very free and very fair vote to join the Glorious III Napoleonic Empire and subsequent Republic.
There is a French academia about it, by leftist mostly, but true enough, it is a State shaping the territories under his control, not the territories shaping the state. a Soviet vision of the world.
Ukrainians ethnic-cultural-familial do exist as the main population of Ukraine separated from Russians if with significant minorities, same as 1930 Poland, and proximities.
To each his definition of Nation i guess. I have the German (also Japanese, Korean, Israeli= historical one. Unity of Language, culture, blood and past. It imply some amount of (fictional) uniformity. it is made by the family inheritance not by the government service.
Nation is not Citizenship either, on the legal side.
The Official definition on Nation for France and Belgium (caugh) is willingness to live together and obey the law.
It does not constitute nation but simply servitude. The Overbearing State in France is a result of natural secessionist leaning of fringe territories.
I don't know Mexico, never been there. Europe, From East to West i know better.
Germans used polish so called ecologist to stop all important polish investments,prof Grzgorz Chocian refused,tell polish secret servives about it - and notching happened.
In Morąg Museum of Warmia was turned into Museum of upper prussia.Another thing to change,when germans lost power.
Now,about german mindset -
In 1920 german general Hans von Seect claimed that Poland must be destroyed,or germany would perish.It seems,that he was wrong.
But - it is old german illness.We have 1000 years of polish Crown now - but,when First polish King was crowned,germans protested against it,becouse it was against their interests - and dignity of their monarchy./Wipon/
Poor dudes.We really do not care what are they doing on their turf,but they fell ill when they could not rule over us.
In Morąg Museum of Warmia was turned into Museum of upper prussia.Another thing to change,when germans lost power.
Now,about german mindset -
In 1920 german general Hans von Seect claimed that Poland must be destroyed,or germany would perish.It seems,that he was wrong.
But - it is old german illness.We have 1000 years of polish Crown now - but,when First polish King was crowned,germans protested against it,becouse it was against their interests - and dignity of their monarchy./Wipon/
Poor dudes.We really do not care what are they doing on their turf,but they fell ill when they could not rule over us.
Germans in occupied Poland murdered many people,for example for helping jews - but,unless other german laws from war,they never considered it as illegal.
They also still keep polish medieval documents stolen during war, including those about wars with teutonic knights.
More modern things - Poland found gas under Baltic near our shore/Wolin East-1/ ,but germans are blocking it using so-called ecologists.
Another german victory - polish Pilecki Institute searched for polish art stealed by germans during WW2 - no longer,Tusk stopped it sending there dude who do not even talk about german crimes,becouse germans could not like it.
Last thing - when germans allied with soviets in Rapallo/1922/ ,Lenin commented that germans hate Poland so would help soviets as long as Poland exist.Of course,he planned to enslave idiots later.
They also still keep polish medieval documents stolen during war, including those about wars with teutonic knights.
More modern things - Poland found gas under Baltic near our shore/Wolin East-1/ ,but germans are blocking it using so-called ecologists.
Another german victory - polish Pilecki Institute searched for polish art stealed by germans during WW2 - no longer,Tusk stopped it sending there dude who do not even talk about german crimes,becouse germans could not like it.
Last thing - when germans allied with soviets in Rapallo/1922/ ,Lenin commented that germans hate Poland so would help soviets as long as Poland exist.Of course,he planned to enslave idiots later.