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DarthOne

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About those polish villages - those who do not run or get schoot when running,was burned alive ,including children.In one case,when german did it on Christmas,they come back to their camp and sing carols about baby Jesus.
Again, at least most of those people were just shot, instead of stuff like the Rape of Namking/Beijing and other atrocities.
 

DarthOne

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Because they really hate that kind of anime stuff. Hell, just give Waifu Bismarck some tig ol' biddies and they'll froth at the mouth on top of being angry that someone is trying to portray Bismarck in anything other than a negative light.
Eh, maybe? Seems more trouble than its worth for too little gain by letting our historical figures get dragged down to that sort of level.
 

DarthOne

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And just when I thought Germany could not go any further....

Our government has once again accomplished a great censorship. The flag of the German Empire is to be banned throughout Germany at public events, just because right-wing extremists and conspiracy theorists have used it.

Communist or anti-flags, however, will not be censored and banned. This is pure hypocrisy and double standards.

The extremists will just use other symbols, so should we ban them every time too?

The Kaiserreich flag is the symbol of German unity, of Prussia and the Hanseatic cities. All flags and coats of arms of German states have historical-monarchist backgrounds, should these now also all be banned?

This is unacceptable!

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/erla...

Intolerable.
 

ATP

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Again, at least most of those people were just shot, instead of stuff like the Rape of Namking/Beijing and other atrocities.
Nope.German counted each bullet,so they schoot only those which they could not catch.Those who they catch/children,womans,eldery/ they gathered in biggest barns and burned them alive.After that they come back to base to sing happily./Carols of baby Jesus,if it was Christmas/
Yes,german do not personally flayed people alive,like ukrainians from UPA did,but....did it really matter for people who get burned alive,that their murderes treated that as part of the job?
 

Captain X

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@Captain X , would you mind explaining for inquiring minds what it is you find so funny about this?
That it's exactly the thing to expect from this lot. Of course they'd claim fascists are using it (that might even be the case), because they hate history. They would probably hate on the old imperial symbols anyway because they are obsessed with colonialism, and it doesn't help that Germany wasn't exactly kind to the locals that they colonized. So I find their declaration hilarious, and view it in much the same light as how they treat the "ok" hand sign, because it is so obviously stupid, yet they insist on acting like they believe it. *honk*honk* 🤡
 

Cherico

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What the hell is going to be acceptable for these nuts? The double headed eagle of the Holy Roman Empire or do we have to go back further?


https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.VXyiXsMHz7QZ1LDA9nVOSwHaHd?w=178&h=180&c=7&o=5&dpr=1.25&pid=1.7


Ok going back to the political triangle.

There are three core values, Stability, Liberty and equality all of these values by their nature conflict.

The nuts in question belong to the equality porton of the map, they only value equality.


To explain their mind set, lets say you and another man went to the same highschool.

You studied hard and did your home work, you get further education and you work hard and save and eventally get your own house. The other guy parties hard got into drugs, and is now homeless.


In their mindset, you shouldn't be doing better then the homeless guy, the only reason you have that sucess is because "YOU" cheated, and they have every right to punish you, to take away everything you have, to hurt and murder you and kill your children because your a "Cheater" and its ok for them to break the rules infact its good for them to break the rules because that helps them get power so they can make everything 'equal'

Stability is in their mind a bad thing because stable societies by their nature are going to have a hirarchy where some one is in charge, and they will also produce wealth which also creates inequality.

Freedom is a bad thing because different people make different choices which will have different out comes and any outcome above their acceptable mean is 'cheating' which must be punished in the most brutal way possible.


Your shocked because you think of your value system as the standard one, understand this, they do not share your values they think your entire value system is evil and you deserve to die because of it. Ive dealt with these people I've talked with these people we have a few of them on our sight.

They do not have your value system, they do not have your morality, and they hate you with every fiber of their being.
 

Morphic Tide

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Speaking of the triangle, where do you chaps think I fall on it? I personally think I sit more in the direction of stability.
To my comprehension of it, I think you'd technically fall into the Reactionary part of it because that's one "step" towards Fraternity (which is defined roughly as "group cohesion" and thus the nearest to stability) from the dead-center between it and Liberty. The extreme generalization of it and choice of labels makes it a very poor tool of categorization, for all it's a decent demonstration of value conflicts.

From what I understand, you're pointedly not a "Group Above All" sort of person, your positions can be broadly summarized as "well-established social structures are vital to personal self-actualization because the lack of them leads to people focusing on personal needs and short-sighted pleasures due to high amounts of conflict between individuals making long-term goals onerous".

But then this is going off my extremely spotty recall for the beliefs of exact other individuals, my attention span and capacity for memorization have me tending to lump people together around general trends of beliefs because keeping track of dozens of separate online personas is... Past what I can manage. Just can't get enough through the door, as it were.
 

ATP

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Actually, it was the Nazis who dissolved Prussia along with all the traditional German states when they took over.

Well,not dissolved,becouse formally they still existed,but take all power from them.german states still existed,but in fact they were just fiction.Just like republics in soviet union - they were russian,ukrainian etc republic there...but so what?
 

DarthOne

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Nope.German counted each bullet,so they schoot only those which they could not catch.Those who they catch/children,womans,eldery/ they gathered in biggest barns and burned them alive.After that they come back to base to sing happily./Carols of baby Jesus,if it was Christmas/
Yes,german do not personally flayed people alive,like ukrainians from UPA did,but....did it really matter for people who get burned alive,that their murderes treated that as part of the job?
I'd have to do more research into the subject before discussing it further. Also, you say that as if the Imperial Japanese didn't consider what they did as 'part of their job' as well.

Honestly, I don't think we're going to get anywhere further with this discussion besides going around in circles. That and annoy people.
 

ATP

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I'd have to do more research into the subject before discussing it further. Also, you say that as if the Imperial Japanese didn't consider what they did as 'part of their job' as well.

Honestly, I don't think we're going to get anywhere further with this discussion besides going around in circles. That and annoy people.

Japaneese certainly saw it as part of their job - but they also treat it very personally,hence additional abuses.
Germans? from my family i knew that most were perfectly safe as long as they do not get orders to kill as poles somwhere.Then they come,schoot those who were running,burned alive those who could not including children,and come back to base.Nothing personal.
Well,SS could do worst,but they were special case.
 

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