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John Romero is getting a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Game Developers Choice Awards, a peer Award celebration.
Seems pretty well deserved.
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Seems pretty well deserved.
2023 Game Developers Choice Awards to Posthumously Honor the First Female Game Designer, Mabel Addis With Pioneer Award and Legendary Game Developer John Romero With Lifetime Achievement Award
Game Developers Choice Awards to honor 1st female game designer Mabel Addis with the Pioneer Award, and John Romero with Lifetime Achievement Award
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Yeah -- he may have fucked up with Ion Storm and, cough laugh cough, Daikatana and being pulled around by his dick and balls by one of the women he hired, but the guy is a legend for more than just one reason.
He's also still actively involved with the Doom community (to the point where the new bigwigs at id got pissed at him for releasing old, ancient Doom assets, such as missing frames, alpha music, et cetera), and IIRC his Sigil had a lot of the cash generated given to charity.
He's also still actively involved with the Doom community (to the point where the new bigwigs at id got pissed at him for releasing old, ancient Doom assets, such as missing frames, alpha music, et cetera), and IIRC his Sigil had a lot of the cash generated given to charity.
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Yep, the only ally Elijah had were those walls as he saw me take the elevator up.
Then I left all the bars in my big mountain footlocker 😂
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This dude seriously low effort flexed hard enough to kill three Guardians without eye contact and simultaneously no selling getting beamed by GOD.
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I rather not listen to an AI replication of Obama and Biden, it is already a detestable dystopian cringe that those parasitic bastards got "elected" in the first place.
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If only we could have gotten Biden and Obama from that reality instead of the ones we have now.
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@ParadiseLost I liked that he looks like an hobbyist-small time (actual) content creator rather than one of the biggies I tend to share. So here it is.
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I'm sort of confused as to why you tagged me and quoted your own post again?
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Is it me or have major franchises have just grown unappeasable toxic fan bases? No constructive criticism and outrage for almost everything?
Like I can understand some outrage but now it's just cartoonishly ridiculous mob mentality.
Bungie whiners complain they ruined Destiny
343 whiners complain they ruined Halo
Bethesda whiners complain they ruined Fallout
And it's just endless bitching and moaning every other day about how the franchise is ruined because they patched a bug or don't pump out content faster anymore.
Why aren't fans actually grateful or appreciative to devs anymore? I noticed they can never say anything good and their examples/comparisons to other series they like is full of the same crap they complain about.
Like I can understand some outrage but now it's just cartoonishly ridiculous mob mentality.
Bungie whiners complain they ruined Destiny
343 whiners complain they ruined Halo
Bethesda whiners complain they ruined Fallout
And it's just endless bitching and moaning every other day about how the franchise is ruined because they patched a bug or don't pump out content faster anymore.
Why aren't fans actually grateful or appreciative to devs anymore? I noticed they can never say anything good and their examples/comparisons to other series they like is full of the same crap they complain about.
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I mean strictly speaking the customer is always right. Not in a literal sense but they pay the bills, Halo, Destiny and Fallout would not exist without these 'toxic' fan bases funding them.
And what are these fanbases to do? Why should they provide constructive criticism when the devs/publishers don't even know they exist? Can you seriously say that the majority of the time, products are shaped by customer opinion? Maybe some years ago but not anymore.
The bitching and moaning is the futile spasms of a powerless customer base, it's the only thing they have left now.
What do you call a bunch of people giving high reviews for real or fake reasons? Normal!
What do you call a bunch of people giving low reviews for real or fake reasons? REVIEW BOMBING!
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Respectfully I disagree speaking as someone who works in a customer service position more often than not customers are self entitled, combative and often have unrealistic expectations.
Not to say that they're never right, but a lot of the times they're just being over dramatic.
Devs/Publishers do know they exist but without constructive criticism they're just left with trying random things until it sticks.
Perfection is impossible, getting everyone or even a majority to be satisfied with something like wise is no easy task especially in the modern age. (People have exponentially higher expectations)
I'd say to some degree it is, Elden Ring for example rode off the coattails of the opinion of Dark Souls so a lot of people bought it because of the positive reviews of Dark Souls
Call of Duty zombies has been a staple for the series since it became popular and it's almost universally expected now with every sequel.
See this is what I disagree with. Vague subjective complaints doesn't help anyone it only worsens the divide between the producers and fan base.
Negativity helps nothing, it only hurts the devs more and forces to spam more shitty content because everyone's complaints are so vague and general that it's impossible to resolve.
Thing is some complaints are valid and some are just outright subjective and could either be the fault of the game or just a gamer being a diva
This isn't worth the cost (Subjective, some people bitch for $20 dollars some shell $50 no problem)
There's too many bugs (Some people bitch about six/twelve bugs over the course of 7 hours and others bitch about a dozen every hour)
The graphics are outdated (Again some people think Crysis 3 graphics are dog shit and some think it's good)
The story didn't make sense (The player wasn't paying attention and is a dumb ass or the story really didn't)
And just some of the complaints I've seen are just petty minor things that gamers from ten years ago wouldn't give a shit about.
343 Haters are bitching that the Devs are pumping out content every three months, and that optional skins look like dog shit so they want to fucking sue the creators of the game for fraud because it hurt their feelings.
Bungie haters are complaining that the optional expansion isn't as good as the last one so they want to shut the fucking servers down because all the other good aspects don't matter.
It's that melodramatic shit that annoys me. If Classic games like Fable TLC came out today people would be bitching it's too short and that they didn't know what is going on and that the characters are boring and a whole bunch of literally unquantifiable and subjective shit.
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It's not just major franchises. I've seen the usual zealotry in even small fandoms. It's not just echochambers on reddit due to the upvote/downvote system; I've seen it happen on old school forums and in discords. Fandoms in general are borderline secular religions. Franchise fandoms are like a pop cult. Americans especially seem to be more prone to buying into fandoms as their identity. "Hi! I'm Bob, and I am a Star Wars/Marvel fan!". It seems to be because your ethnic identity in America is so muted. In Europe, you can proclaim "I'm Dutch!" or "I'm Swedish!", but in America, what can you proclaim? That you're white? "Well, I guess I have Scottish ancestry from 100 years back...", but you barely know anything about Scotland or the Scottish people. Combined with America's prosperity and consumerist culture, it's easy for people to adopt fandoms and materialism as their identity. People are going to worship something, and if they don't worship God, they're going to worship material things.
They pay your bills, it matters not how entitled and unrealistic they are. YOU OWE YOUR PAYCHECK TO THESE RETARDS.
Hence why they are not literally 'always right', but they might as well be. Not unless you can find a money printer.
From my perspective I have to disagree, there's too many decisions made that go against the customer preference. Do some devs follow their customer wishes? Sure. But you cannot tell me with a straight face that anyone 'wanted' a kitbashed half-assed open world Halo game missing the classic magnum lmao.
The 'souls' games in general tend to be well receieved, but there's countless complaints, constructive or otherwise about CoD Zombies.
The most common complaints I find is that Zombies has become too complex, missing the point of what made it popular. That being 'shooty shooty bang bang zombie action oops you lost try again for the high score!'
Negativity can help in many ways. When there is an angry mob demanding something, do you listen to them in the hopes of quelling their anger, or do you let them fester and become yet angrier? Most devs pick "B" because as it turns out angry internet mobs have zero power over giant corporations.
You know what I think is even worse than negativity? Unwarranted positivity. Notice how nobody ever points out how needless praise of otherwise mundane or frankly unimpressive things is never looked down upon? I wonder why that is...
Please do not worry about negativity 'hurting' the devs. They got their paycheck, they are busy working on their projects. Their billion dollar parent corporations are doing just fine. To be honest thus far I haven't actually noticed any legitimately good games/devs fail due to angry mobs. Ultimately if they are of quality they make it past the finish line.
If you are dissatisfied with inaccurate complaints, are you also dissatisfied with inaccurate praise? Because I can tell you that the bar is never going to get higher with either of them.
From your personal opinion, how would you get 343 to improve Halo Infinite?
Are you confident this would make the game better?