French elections and politics thread.

[Ricardolindo]

Depends on just how much immigration we are going to see here. After all, Sub-Saharan Africa will have around four billion people by the end of this century. I have no doubt that at least one billion of them would want to move to the West if they could.

Sub-Saharan Africa is Christian majority.
My Quora friend Ygor Coelho wrote about this at Do you think, that in 21st century mass migration from Africa to Europe will happen, because of global warming and rapid population growt....

 

[WolfBear]

Sub-Saharan Africa is Christian majority.
My Quora friend Ygor Coelho wrote about this at Do you think, that in 21st century mass migration from Africa to Europe will happen, because of global warming and rapid population growt....

True, but even so, there will still be enough problems with them if the Great Migration in the US is anything to go by. And even an influx of 100-200 million extra Muslims into Europe will be catastrophic.

 

[Ricardolindo]

True, but even so, there will still be enough problems with them if the Great Migration in the US is anything to go by. And even an influx of 100-200 million extra Muslims into Europe will be catastrophic.

Did you read Ygor's answer? He argued that as the generations passed, the native Europeans would mix with the Africans and Asians.

 

[WolfBear]

Did you read Ygor's answer? He argued that as the generations passed, the native Europeans would mix with the Africans and Asians.

No, I didn't, but I will right now.

 

[WolfBear]

What will probably happen after many generations, as immigrants lose their connections to their original ethnicities and national affiliations, is that there will be gradual but eventually massive inter-ethnic mixing - and a new mixed population, with a lot of Native European ancestry, will form an increasingly larger part of the population of many European nations, a new population structure born out of the mixture of population of different backgrounds as it already happened in Europe many times in the past (e.g. in the Neolithic when Anatolian farmers mixed with European Mesolithic aboriginals, in the Bronze Age when Indo-European pastoralists mixed with those already mixed European farmers, also in the Bronze Age).

Is that what's currently happening in South Africa? Even in the US, interracial marriage isn't too widespread. It's what, 15% of all US marriages? Most people I suspect would prefer to marry people of their own race or ethnicity. And he's ignoring the various other effects that this could have, such as an increase in crime, a decrease in social trust, a push for more equity, diversity, and inclusion, and the social safety net becoming overburdened as a result of the presence of too many dull people. And if the Muslim percentage in France increases even from 10% to 20-30%, then engaging in "Islamophobic" speech in France will become even more dangerous than it already is--and it's already dangerous enough, as Samuel Paty unfortunately found out the hard way!

 

[WolfBear]

FWIW, in France right now, apparently around 20% of newborns have Muslim parents:

Muslims in France: Some Data

In contrast to the situation in the Anglo-American world – where detailed racial data gives a good sense of most groups’ educational and socio-economic performance, criminality, voting patterns, etc. – there is no systematic collection of such data in France. This means that we have to estimate...

www.unz.com

 

[Rocinante]

Rufus Shinra, a notorious SB poster who was... basically French. Very French. As in every possible negative French stereotype rolled into one. The only reason we know he was an actual Frenchman and not a troll pretending to be a Saturday Morning Cartoon caricature is because he accidentally doxxed himself at one point while boasting about something else.

Dude was eventually banned for, IIRC, arguing that US companies needed to follow French laws and if they didn't French corporations would send peerless French Special Forces into the US to kidnap all the CEOs' loved ones and use them as hostages to force all the US companies to follow French laws.

And for anyone who doesn't know Rufus, none of this is a joke, or an exaggeration.

 

[WolfBear]

And for anyone who doesn't know Rufus, none of this is a joke, or an exaggeration.

He's still on alternatehistory.com, apparently.

 

[Ricardolindo]

Is that what's currently happening in South Africa? Even in the US, interracial marriage isn't too widespread. It's what, 15% of all US marriages? Most people I suspect would prefer to marry people of their own race or ethnicity. And he's ignoring the various other effects that this could have, such as an increase in crime, a decrease in social trust, a push for more equity, diversity, and inclusion, and the social safety net becoming overburdened as a result of the presence of too many dull people. And if the Muslim percentage in France increases even from 10% to 20-30%, then engaging in "Islamophobic" speech in France will become even more dangerous than it already is--and it's already dangerous enough, as Samuel Paty unfortunately found out the hard way!

He believes it will happen over several generations as the descendants of the immigrants lost their ethnic identity.

 

[Cherico]

Is that what's currently happening in South Africa? Even in the US, interracial marriage isn't too widespread. It's what, 15% of all US marriages? Most people I suspect would prefer to marry people of their own race or ethnicity. And he's ignoring the various other effects that this could have, such as an increase in crime, a decrease in social trust, a push for more equity, diversity, and inclusion, and the social safety net becoming overburdened as a result of the presence of too many dull people. And if the Muslim percentage in France increases even from 10% to 20-30%, then engaging in "Islamophobic" speech in France will become even more dangerous than it already is--and it's already dangerous enough, as Samuel Paty unfortunately found out the hard way!

actually there is a lot of interacial marrage between latinos and anglos, and between asians and whites in america. You also have plenty of cases where whites and african american's get married. Also 15% is fucking huge, thats roughly 1 in 6 marrages.

 

[WolfBear]

actually there is a lot of interacial marrage between latinos and anglos, and between asians and whites in america. You also have plenty of cases where whites and african american's get married. Also 15% is fucking huge, thats roughly 1 in 6 marrages.

1 in roughly 6.5 marriages, more specifically. And Yeah, the white working-class can marry Latinos while the white elite can marry Asians (especially cute Asian waifus). I think that most black-white intermarriages are the result of white women chasing after hyper-masculine black men:

Is Love Colorblind?

www1.udel.edu

 

[WolfBear]

Interestingly enough, even some French Muslims are open to supporting Le Pen:

Solicitation

We inform the fight to keep America American

vdare.com

A Moroccan woman named Hafida El-Bakkouri, wearing a head scarf, joined a group of women playing a version of dominoes. She said she buys a bag of flour for 50 cents in order to bake three baguettes for about the price of one at the bakery. “We get by,” she said.

When asked how she felt about Ms. Le Pen, who has vowed to ban the use of head scarves in public and fine women who wear them, Ms. El-Bakkouri said: “The main thing is she wants to send delinquents out of the country. I may vote for her. Why not?”

 

[Zachowon]

Wow.
Did not see that coming

 

[Arlos]

Interestingly enough, even some French Muslims are open to supporting Le Pen:

Solicitation

We inform the fight to keep America American

vdare.com

No surprise here, delinquent are basically the law in no go zone, and the only way successive governments tried to deal with it is by making more law that they cannot even enforce, lot of people living there are sick of this situation.

 

[Cherico]

No surprise here, delinquent are basically the law in no go zone, and the only way successive governments tried to deal with it is by making more law that they cannot even enforce, lot of people living there are sick of this situation.

My personal bet is that an increasingly unwheildy alliance of anti populist parties keeps Le pen and any one like her out of power for awhile, this will prevent anything being done about the problems and then one day the country will just explode in an orgy of violence.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

No surprise here, delinquent are basically the law in no go zone, and the only way successive governments tried to deal with it is by making more law that they cannot even enforce, lot of people living there are sick of this situation.

She's also a Morrocan. As far as Islamic countries go, they are quite chilled out. They're also a good bunch. Really helped out Gibraltar once when the Spanish were being colossal prats.

 

[Arlos]

My personal bet is that an increasingly unwheildy alliance of anti populist parties keeps Le pen and any one like her out of power for awhile, this will prevent anything being done about the problems and then one day the country will just explode in an orgy of violence.

That’s pretty obvious, by this point the traditional left and right in my country have ceased to exist and fused into the centrist party under Macron, but every election the center get smaller, it was honestly a mistake to do that on their part, since nobody want to be ruled by a uniparty, something will inevitably give at some point and they will lose to an extreme.

 

[Buba]

So, Marine wins in 2027?

 

[Arlos]

So, Marine wins in 2027?

Election isn’t over yet.

 

[Agent23]

So, Marine wins in 2027?

Election isn’t over yet.

Well, Macaroni is projected to win and the MSM can only talk about the Ukraine situation as well as some loan Le Pen allegedly got from some Russian bank.