EU France is on fire. Again.

[PsihoKekec]

Slow burn continues

France: Dangerous for Jews

La Duchère is one of the districts defined by the French government as a "Zone Urbaine Sensible" ("sensitive urban zone"). These districts should be more accurately called "no-go zones," but the French authorities and the French mainstream media say that "no-go zones," which are scattered throughout the country, do not exist in France. The police, however, have so far identified 751 of them.

They are almost exclusively populated by Arab and African Muslims who live together and have their own rules and their own code of conduct. Muslim gangs, for instance, do not rob or attack other Muslims there. These "sensitive urban zones" are semi-autonomous Islamic enclaves on French territory. They are run by Muslim gangs, and the law that reigns there is essentially the law of the gangs and radical imams.

The rest of the country remains France, but those who live in the rest of the country know that they could be attacked by people from "sensitive urban zones," and that the attackers have a good chance of going unpunished. Robberies, wanton assaults and murders are increasing rapidly in all French cities and can at times be barbaric. On May 10, for instance, Alban Gervaise, a doctor, was sitting on a bench and waiting for his children in front of a Catholic school in Marseilles, when he was slaughtered by a man who said he was acting "in the name of Allah". Other people there, paralyzed by fear, did not react: they just described what they saw to the police. The press barely mentioned the murder. Criminal acts of this kind are more and more frequent.

 

[Sobek]

There is a reason one of the biggest rising stars in the french right is Zenmour, who is a jew. Turns out the ones who are still jewish instead of zionists or bolsheviks are keenly aware of how dangerous muslims are to their health.

 

[Zachowon]

There is a reason one of the biggest rising stars in the french right is Zenmour, who is a jew. Turns out the ones who are still jewish instead of zionists or bolsheviks are keenly aware of how dangerous muslims are to their health.

Le Pen did better then he did.
The thing is Macron basically is barley hanging on, and next time he runs he I'd fucked.
Or a coup happens.
The military has never liked Macron

 

[Cherico]

Le Pen did better then he did.
The thing is Macron basically is barley hanging on, and next time he runs he I'd fucked.
Or a coup happens.
The military has never liked Macron

Will the next government be another republic? A junta? A return to monarchy? with France you never know.

 

[Agent23]

Will the next government be another republic? A junta? A return to monarchy? with France you never know.

I think they mostly move between Republic and Monarchy.
Who would be the king, though?
Anyways, cue the happening gif:

 

[Zachowon]

A member of the house of Bourbon?
@Arlos our local royalist. Who will take the throne?

 

[Sobek]

Le Pen did better then he did.
The thing is Macron basically is barley hanging on, and next time he runs he I'd fucked.
Or a coup happens.
The military has never liked Macron

Le Pen had recognition, a established party, a already pre-made matchup and far more publicity. Zenmour was a complete outsider who came in with little funds. He still got 7,5% of the vote in 4th place in the 1st round, doing better than the green party by getting almost double their share.

 

[Zachowon]

Le Pen had recognition, a established party, a already pre-made matchup and far more publicity. Zenmour was a complete outsider who came in with little funds. He still got 7,5% of the vote in 4th place in the 1st round, doing better than the green party by getting almost double their share.

True.
Very very true

 

[Arlos]

A member of the house of Bourbon?
@Arlos our local royalist. Who will take the throne?

Ah, well, that’s the real question isn’t *cough* I’ll pass on commenting on the subjects, since I don’t want to get crucified in case a fellow royalists see this board, let’s just say we have several claimants…
Btw, legislative election results just dropped and the president does not, in fact, have a presidential majority.
This makes me happy.

 

[Agent23]

Ah, well, that’s the real question isn’t *cough* I’ll pass on commenting on the subjects, since I don’t want to get crucified in case a fellow royalists see this board, let’s just say we have several claimants…
Btw, legislative election results just dropped and the president does not, in fact, have a presidential majority.
This makes me happy.

Hopefully this is just the start of Macaroniface's problems.

 

[Zachowon]

Ah, well, that’s the real question isn’t *cough* I’ll pass on commenting on the subjects, since I don’t want to get crucified in case a fellow royalists see this board, let’s just say we have several claimants…
Btw, legislative election results just dropped and the president does not, in fact, have a presidential majority.
This makes me happy.

That is even better.
Just who are the royals that everyone wants

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Btw, legislative election results just dropped and the president does not, in fact, have a presidential majority.
This makes me happy.

Not to mention Le Pen's party just increased their seat count eleven fold. The French Centre is fucked.

That is even better.
Just who are the royals that everyone wants

It's messy. As Arlos pointed out, there are two claimant factions: the Orleanists and the Legitimists. If I understand it correctly, the latter are Bourbon supporters that lean towards a more conservative understanding of monarchy, whilst the former support the line of the French Monarchy through the younger son of Louis XIII, and are more amenable to liberal reform. Support for a Bonaparte restoration is practically nonexistent.

From a distant point of view, I'd say the Legitimists hold more weight via abiding by ancient succession laws, but the Orleanists might be more palatable to a rabidly Republican France.

It must be pressed that absolutely none of them want to restore the ancien regime of absolute monarchy. Indeed, they seem to want to model it off Britain's system of constitutional monarchy, although (again as I understand) the Legitimists would like a more powerful crown.

 

[Terthna]

Not to mention Le Pen's party just increased their seat count eleven fold. The French Centre is fucked.



It's messy. As Arlos pointed out, there are two claimant factions: the Orleanists and the Legitimists. If I understand it correctly, the latter are Bourbon supporters that lean towards a more conservative understanding of monarchy, whilst the former support the line of the French Monarchy through the younger son of Louis XIII, and are more amenable to liberal reform. Support for a Bonaparte restoration is practically nonexistent.

From a distant point of view, I'd say the Legitimists hold more weight via abiding by ancient succession laws, but the Orleanists might be more palatable to a rabidly Republican France.

It must be pressed that absolutely none of them want to restore the ancien regime of absolute monarchy. Indeed, they seem to want to model it off Britain's system of constitutional monarchy, although (again as I understand) the Legitimists would like a more powerful crown.

Considering the current state of Britain, I'm not sure why the Orleanists would think emulating their constitutional monarchy would constitute an improvement over the system of governance France already has. They may as well not even bother.

 

[WolfBear]

Slow burn continues

France: Dangerous for Jews

France really does need someone like Le Pen to get elected, ideally as soon as possible. So, 2027. This is why I supported Le Pen over Macron earlier this year. I strongly admired Macron's pro-free speech stance, but I felt that Le Pen would be better on Islam overall.

 

[WolfBear]

Le Pen had recognition, a established party, a already pre-made matchup and far more publicity. Zenmour was a complete outsider who came in with little funds. He still got 7,5% of the vote in 4th place in the 1st round, doing better than the green party by getting almost double their share.

Zemmour almost prevented Le Pen from advancing into the second round earlier this year. We could have had Macron v. Melencon in the second round instead of Macron v. Le Pen!

Not to mention Le Pen's party just increased their seat count eleven fold. The French Centre is fucked.



It's messy. As Arlos pointed out, there are two claimant factions: the Orleanists and the Legitimists. If I understand it correctly, the latter are Bourbon supporters that lean towards a more conservative understanding of monarchy, whilst the former support the line of the French Monarchy through the younger son of Louis XIII, and are more amenable to liberal reform. Support for a Bonaparte restoration is practically nonexistent.

From a distant point of view, I'd say the Legitimists hold more weight via abiding by ancient succession laws, but the Orleanists might be more palatable to a rabidly Republican France.

It must be pressed that absolutely none of them want to restore the ancien regime of absolute monarchy. Indeed, they seem to want to model it off Britain's system of constitutional monarchy, although (again as I understand) the Legitimists would like a more powerful crown.

FWIW, the crucial question for French monarchists is whether the renunciation that King Philip V of Spain made in regards to the French throne for him and all of his male-line descendants in perpetuity is actually legally binding. If it is, then the Legitimists have the stronger claim to the French throne, but if not, then the Orleanists have the stronger claim to the French throne.

And FWIW, Louis XIII's younger son Philippe I, Duke of Orleans, the founder of the House of Orleans, was actually gay himself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_I,_Duke_of_Orl%C3%A9ans

It's an interesting fact. But he was still able to do his royal duty, thankfully enough.

 

[Jormungandr]

Considering the current state of Britain, I'm not sure why the Orleanists would think emulating their constitutional monarchy would constitute an improvement over the system of governance France already has. They may as well not even bother.

The Monarchy isn't all that bad, except for a few bad elements (Harry and that gold-digging prostitute he married; Andrew being an old pervert, et cetera) -- most of our problems come down to how basically inept and corrupt our system of government is; namely, the Houses of Commons and Lords.

 

[WolfBear]

The Monarchy isn't all that bad, except for a few bad elements (Harry and that gold-digging prostitute he married; Andrew being an old pervert, et cetera) -- most of our problems come down to how basically inept and corrupt our system of government is; namely, the Houses of Commons and Lords.

You're also lucky that Kate M. has brought good genes into your monarchy's gene pool. But of course Kate's younger sister Pippa M. is the real treasure here!

 

[Terthna]

The Monarchy isn't all that bad, except for a few bad elements (Harry and that gold-digging prostitute he married; Andrew being an old pervert, et cetera) -- most of our problems come down to how basically inept and corrupt our system of government is; namely, the Houses of Commons and Lords.

Which is my point; they're just glorified celebrities with little actual power. Why any self-proclaimed monarchist would want that is beyond me, unless they're just interested in the aesthetic.

 

[Jormungandr]

Which is my point; they're just glorified celebrities with little actual power. Why any self-proclaimed monarchist would want that is beyond me, unless they're just interested in the aesthetic.

The reigning monarch, in this case HRM Elizabeth II, does have the ability to dissolve Parliament at any time. It's a nuclear option, but she almost used it a few times during the 70's and 80's.

She does have power and influence, but it's mostly behind the scenes soft-power -- the Royals are pretty much celebrities, but they're not powerless celebrities.

 

[Bacle]

The reigning monarch, in this case HRM Elizabeth II, does have the ability to dissolve Parliament at any time. It's a nuclear option, but she almost used it a few times during the 70's and 80's.

She does have power and influence, but it's mostly behind the scenes soft-power -- the Royals are pretty much celebrities, but they're not powerless celebrities.

Plus, the Brit military swears loyalty to the crown, not to Parliament.