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Bacle

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Nah....

This is like claiming that Epstein lawyer who shot himself 9 times then hung himself or that OKC cop were victims of suicide.

They straight up murdered this man's family.
Dude, nothing about this seems like a conspiracy, and this is not the first time this sort of incident has happened either.

Nothing in the article you linked claimed it was shot down, you layered that on to amp up the conspiracy angle from the get go.
 

Zachowon

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This is actually a common occurrence. Common as in it happens plenty of times not common as in happens routinely.
Plenty of planes have crashed from it.

We can also track the plane via the internet and there would have been more then just a sonic boom from the aircraft had it been shot down
 

Jormungandr

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Dude, the pilot was unconscious at best when the intercept happened, and that means everyone onboard was out of it from hypoxia.

As well, it did not mention it being shot down, only crashing likely after running out of gas or just losing the rough balance of forces that kept it flying without pilot input, and this would not be the first time a pressurization failure on a jet like this happened.

This is a tragedy and probably an accident, not a hostile action with political overtones.
This is the likely scenario, but given recent history in the last ten or so years, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if they were purposefully killed somehow.
 

Blasterbot

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yeah screw protest when it is a right winger or religious Christian. we all know that the 1st amendment means separation of church and state and that means the state owns the public spaces.



video of the incident. admittedly the guy talking over the vid is a stricter Christian than most. the guy who got arrested though wasn't doing anything wrong there.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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King Arts

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For a supposed America First guy he wastes a lot of time shilling for Russian narratives regarding the war in Ukraine for no good reason. The hell does he care?
Because there are people in America trying to get us to care. The establishment isn’t saying just let those two nations fight we don’t care. They are saying we have to help one side the other is evil.
 

Marduk

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US taxpayer dollar going into the pockets of Ukraine oligarchs while they starve. And he is not a stooge so far like his colleagues at Fox or his rivals at CNN.
Compared to Iraq and Afghanistan, the amount of damage done to a rival state is great for that amount, and if somehow they also manage to steal much from it while achieving such effects... holy shit, these oligarchs are the most efficient bastards on Earth right now.
Seriously, the Fortune 500 corporations should replace the wasteful woke CEOs with them yesterday, that's what an impressive feat this would be.
Because there are people in America trying to get us to care. The establishment isn’t saying just let those two nations fight we don’t care. They are saying we have to help one side the other is evil.
So? And the right answer is supposed to be "fall for the distraction and start caring, but support the opposite side for shits and giggles"?
It's the "worst of both worlds" option. Not only forces you to defend disreputable and outright bullshit positions for the sake of the argument, but also distracts your attention from things you supposedly care about, as intended if the distraction theory of this involvement is correct.
And as i see in how much action this and related threads get compared to other things, even those affecting them more directly, for mysterious reasons these pro-Russian people on the right sure do care surprisingly much, despite there being no rational reason for them to.
 

King Arts

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So? And the right answer is supposed to be "fall for the distraction and start caring, but support the opposite side for shits and giggles"?
It's the "worst of both worlds" option. Not only forces you to defend disreputable and outright bullshit positions for the sake of the argument, but also distracts your attention from things you supposedly care about, as intended if the distraction theory of this involvement is correct.
And as i see in how much action this and related threads get compared to other things, even those affecting them more directly, for mysterious reasons these pro-Russian people on the right sure do care surprisingly much, despite there being no rational reason for them to.
So by doing nothing is just repeating the past and letting the same people who got America involved in the world wars or Vietnam or the Middle East playing world police win. Maybe they would stop trying to undermine isolationism if every time they undermine it the nation decides to do what they think is evil and support the side they don’t like in the conflict.
 

Bassoe

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It’s not just about our tax money being spent on foreigners rather than benefitting us, as much as it being spent to make us objectively less safe. It would seem preferable for Russia to have simply defeated Ukraine than for Russia to be backed into a corner where their only chance of victory and therefore Putin’s only chance of not looking weak in front of the rest of that den of vipers which is Russian politics was to escalate. Our chances of nuclear war are higher if Ukraine is beating Russia that vice versa.
 

Marduk

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So by doing nothing is just repeating the past and letting the same people who got America involved in the world wars or Vietnam or the Middle East playing world police win.
Fuck commies and middle eastern dictators. America should get involved, the only thing it did wrong was to not crush them properly, for political reasons, erected by leftist scum.

Maybe they would stop trying to undermine isolationism if every time they undermine it the nation decides to do what they think is evil and support the side they don’t like in the conflict.
Fuck isolationists, hippies, pacifists and other clowns too.
The question i'm more interested in is wtf happened that there's a sudden flood of less mainstream right wingers who are suddenly adopting the foreign policy positions that as little as 10 years ago would be recognized as belonging on indymedia or in CPUSA.
It's not just about our tax money being spent on foreigners rather than benefitting us, as much as it being spent to make us objectively less safe. It would seem preferable for Russia to have simply defeated Ukraine than for Russia to be backed into a corner where their only chance of victory and therefore Putin's only chance of not looking weak in front of the rest of that den of vipers which is Russian politics was to escalate. Our chances of nuclear war are higher if Ukraine is beating Russia that vice versa.
Whatever. Russia should be "backed into a corner" because that's the only language this sort of foreign leaders understand.
Sending Patriots, tanks and long range missiles was supposed to be a "red line" for Russia according to the "de-escalation" faction you represent here, they were sent, where's the escalation?
There's nothing.
If you let yourself be fearmongered into paralysis by Russian leadership, just know that Iran, China and North Korea are standing in the line and taking notes. And when they use these notes and it works, then guess more will join the line.
 
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