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[Jormungandr]

Yep. I know plenty of individuals who are LGBT and are great people, and have spoken out against this.

I've also seen others defend this or just say silent, and I've lost any respect for them.

Yep.

There is a vast difference between someone who is a normal person but has a different orientation and these fucking rainbow fruitcakes. There is a vast difference between genuine sufferers of gender dysphoria and trans-trenders/cliquers.

Unfortunately, LGBTQIA+kitchensink is now always the latter of both -- the freaks, the weirdos, and the nuts. They are the Alphabet Soup Community.

All the formers are going to be in the inevitable crossfire because of those cunts.

 

[DarthOne]

Yep.

There is a vast difference between someone who is a normal person but has a different orientation and these fucking rainbow fruitcakes. There is a vast difference between genuine sufferers of gender dysphoria and trans-trenders/cliquers.

Unfortunately, LGBTQIA+kitchensink is now always the latter of both -- the freaks, the weirdos, and the nuts. They are the Alphabet Soup Community.

All the formers are going to be in the inevitable crossfire because of those cunts.

I’d argue that the ‘freaks, weirdos and nuts’ were always part of and running the show to some degree. It’s just that now the ‘saner’ people have stopped being activists so the loonies are more exposed. That and they think they no longer have a reason to hide.

 

[Rocinante]

I’d argue that the ‘freaks, weirdos and nuts’ were always part of and running the show to some degree. It’s just that now the ‘saner’ people have stopped being activists so the loonies are more exposed. That and they think they no longer have a reason to hide.

The regular LGBs won.

They got gay marriage. They got equality.

Then the loonies took over, because the regular gay people who just wanted to be equal, and similar allies moved on.

I was very adamant for allowing gays to be equal. If we reverted that right, I'd be fighting for it again. But I left that movement years ago because we accomplished the goals and got what we wanted.

And since then the movement has become some weird thing that makes new names for pedophiles as to not offend them, wants to expose children to drag shows, and perform life altering surgeries on them while shoving hormones into their young bodies.

It's fucking sick and disgusting, and as a straight ally who has been around gay people most my my life, no, this was not always the norm. These people were not always running the show. I'm not an ally anymore, and If this is what the movement was like back then, I'd have been against them back then, too.

This is highly unfortunate for the gay people who just wanna grill. This toxic movement is going to make life difficult for them. More of them need to have tne God damn courage to speak the fuck up, though.

 

[mrttao]

Leading math authorities in Canada are now openly claiming that the phrase "2+2=4" is an example of white supremacy

Just in case you ever had any doubt at all that woke ideology is ruining education and poisoning the minds of people everywhere, here's a major education institution arguing that basic mathematics are racist:

notthebee.com

Canada declares that 2+2=4 is white supremacy

 

[Yinko]

Leading math authorities in Canada are now openly claiming that the phrase "2+2=4" is an example of white supremacy

Just in case you ever had any doubt at all that woke ideology is ruining education and poisoning the minds of people everywhere, here's a major education institution arguing that basic mathematics are racist:

notthebee.com

Canada declares that 2+2=4 is white supremacy

Go up with two toonies and demand that they be exchanged for $5 Canadian, if they refuse call them racist, if they fold repeat with larger sums.

Make 'get woke, go broke' more literal.

 

[DarthOne]

The regular LGBs won.

They got gay marriage. They got equality.

Then the loonies took over, because the regular gay people who just wanted to be equal, and similar allies moved on.

I was very adamant for allowing gays to be equal. If we reverted that right, I'd be fighting for it again. But I left that movement years ago because we accomplished the goals and got what we wanted.

And since then the movement has become some weird thing that makes new names for pedophiles as to not offend them, wants to expose children to drag shows, and perform life altering surgeries on them while shoving hormones into their young bodies.

It's fucking sick and disgusting, and as a straight ally who has been around gay people most my my life, no, this was not always the norm. These people were not always running the show. I'm not an ally anymore, and If this is what the movement was like back then, I'd have been against them back then, too.

This is highly unfortunate for the gay people who just wanna grill. This toxic movement is going to make life difficult for them. More of them need to have tne God damn courage to speak the fuck up, though.

I need to do more digging, but from what I've seen others post and say, these people have been part of the LGBT 'alliance' since the beginning.

But even if that wasn't the case, there's no such thing as an' LGB Without the TQ'. They go hand-in-hand.

If one wants to base their self-identity around sexual proclivities, then it is inevitable that one will have to include autogynephiles and autoandrophiles in that arrangement. Their fetishes are no less 'valid' than bisexuals and homosexuals in the LGB's ideology. They cannot honestly say that autogyne/autoandrophilia is abnormal and also say that homosexuality is normal. ZNot without being massive hypocrites.

The idea that they can do so is a manifestation of anxiety that gay activists are beginning to feel in light of the growing backlash against their 'gay rights' project. It's almost funny to see them throw gender fetishists under the bus in order to protect themselves.

 

[DarthOne]

Leading math authorities in Canada are now openly claiming that the phrase "2+2=4" is an example of white supremacy

Just in case you ever had any doubt at all that woke ideology is ruining education and poisoning the minds of people everywhere, here's a major education institution arguing that basic mathematics are racist:

notthebee.com

Canada declares that 2+2=4 is white supremacy

"I can hold these two irreconcilable facts in my mind at the same time."


Jesus Christ, this is right out of 1984’s doublethink.

 

[Yinko]

"I can hold these two irreconcilable facts in my mind at the same time."


Jesus Christ, this is right out of 1984 of doublethink.

Eh, I wouldn't have a big problem with it, if there were any validity to the other perspective. I can view man as evolved and man as created at the same time, I can look at the world from those perspectives. There is value in both even if only to be able to understand the world views of large pluralities of people.

The issue here is, no population ever seriously said that 2+2=5. There is no practical case for this, there is no anthropological case for this. The only case for this is in the post-modernist dialectical tradition of deconstruction. In which case, the value of this is that it undermines established beliefs and norms. Destruction as an innate good.

 

[Abhorsen]

I’d argue that the ‘freaks, weirdos and nuts’ were always part of and running the show to some degree. It’s just that now the ‘saner’ people have stopped being activists so the loonies are more exposed. That and they think they no longer have a reason to hide.

This is very true. Every movement has it's weirdos one doesn't want to hold so closely.

I need to do more digging, but from what I've seen others post and say, these people have been part of the LGBT 'alliance' since the beginning.

But even if that wasn't the case, there's no such thing as an' LGB Without the TQ'. They go hand-in-hand.

If one wants to base their self-identity around sexual proclivities, then it is inevitable that one will have to include autogynephiles and autoandrophiles in that arrangement. Their fetishes are no less 'valid' than bisexuals and homosexuals in the LGB's ideology. They cannot honestly say that autogyne/autoandrophilia is abnormal and also say that homosexuality is normal. ZNot without being massive hypocrites.

The idea that they can do so is a manifestation of anxiety that gay activists are beginning to feel in light of the growing backlash against their 'gay rights' project. It's almost funny to see them throw gender fetishists under the bus in order to protect themselves.

Eh, it's always been a marriage of convivence of us both being considered weird, but they are different. Gay things occur all the time in nature, and there's a decent case for them being natural. Trans stuff is much more rare, if it exists at all. There's a large body of evidence showing people can't be made gay or straight (even from people who wanted to prove otherwise before the long march was complete), but nearly no evidence of that for trans stuff. Trans people require that Gender Dysphoria be considered a mental disorder, otherwise insurance/national health program would have no reason to pay for it anymore than liposuction. Gays don't require anything except being left alone.

And I could go on.

 

[Jormungandr]

"I can hold these two irreconcilable facts in my mind at the same time."


Jesus Christ, this is right out of 1984 of doublethink.

"It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be REDUCED to twenty grammes a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it."

There was even a technical term in the novel for such language, but I can't remember what it was called.

 

[Morphic Tide]

Destruction as an innate good.

I'd say it's more sourced from doubt as an innate good. Skepticism derailed to its Reducto Ad Absurdum counterpoint, of refusing to accept anything unless very painstakingly bashed into one's head. That is what characterizes Critical Theory, the refusal to apply it to their pet positions notwithstanding.

 

[Yinko]

I'd say it's more sourced from doubt as an innate good. Skepticism derailed to its Reducto Ad Absurdum counterpoint, of refusing to accept anything unless very painstakingly bashed into one's head. That is what characterizes Critical Theory, the refusal to apply it to their pet positions notwithstanding.

Certainly a more complimentary interpretation. Critical Theory is an offshoot of deconstruction, so that would likely check out. On the other hand, when you go to the extremes of Critical Theory, like Queer Theory (and other similar groups) they prize the transgressive because it is transgressive. The whole point is to dismantle the existing system by pushing the boundaries. You could argue that this is due to a skepticism as to the validity of the existing systems, but at that point there is no functional difference between skepticism and destruction, especially since the point of Queer Theory (and things like it) is not to create a replacement system but to have no system.

 

[DarthOne]

There was even a technical term in the novel for such language, but I can't remember what it was called.

Blackwhite is the Newspeak term, I believe.

This is very true. Every movement has it's weirdos one doesn't want to hold so closely.


Eh, it's always been a marriage of convivence of us both being considered weird, but they are different. Gay things occur all the time in nature, and there's a decent case for them being natural. Trans stuff is much more rare, if it exists at all. There's a large body of evidence showing people can't be made gay or straight (even from people who wanted to prove otherwise before the long march was complete), but nearly no evidence of that for trans stuff. Trans people require that Gender Dysphoria be considered a mental disorder, otherwise insurance/national health program would have no reason to pay for it anymore than liposuction. Gays don't require anything except being left alone.

And I could go on.

I am EXCEPTIONALLY doubtful of the idea that a person’s sexual orientation cannot be messed with. If that was true, why then the sudden rise in homosexuality and transgenderism among Millennials and Gen Z in particular? Generations that have been brought up with LTGB acceptance being shoved in their face and being exposed to that ideology?

Edit: clarification and damnit autocorrect.

 

[Abhorsen]

I am EXCEPTIONALLY doubtful of the idea that a person’s sexual orientation cannot be messed with. If that was true, why then the sudden rise in homosexuality and transgenderism among Millennials and Gen Z in particular? Generations that have been brought up with LTGB acceptance being shoved in their face and being exposed to that ideology?

There was a rise in claimed homosexuality, that quickly turned to inventing new words to not be straight but basically meant straight (remember all the new sexualities?), followed by people claiming they were trans. As for it not being messed with, it seems fixed at an incredibly young age (pre-school at the latest, likely a natal environment thing), I've posted evidence for that before on this site. There's some genetic component, but the environmental component appears to be pretty fixed. On top of that, the lack of evidence of successful long term sexuality conversions is pretty damning.

The percentage of guys willing to suck dicks, as opposed to the guys claiming to be gay or a made up sexuality or whatever, has been pretty constant.

 

[Bassoe]

I am EXCEPTIONALLY doubtful of the idea that a person’s sexual orientation cannot be messed with. If that was true, why then the sudden rise in homosexuality and transgenderism among Millennials and Gen Z in particular? Generations that have been brought up with LTGB acceptance being shoved in their face and being exposed to that ideology?

The approved dogma is that the population has always possessed its current percentage of non-traditional sexualities, but historically they were oppressed into silence and only now does society admit to their existence. The notion that this might be wrong, and humans are just as vulnerable to endocrine-disrupting chemical contamination as other species is heresy. Especially since it might lead to people insisting on expensive new laws to make the corporations not pollute EDCs everywhere.

 

[Bacle]

The approved dogma is that the population has always possessed its current percentage of non-traditional sexualities, but historically they were oppressed into silence and only now does society admit to their existence. The notion that this might be wrong, and humans are just as vulnerable to endocrine-disrupting chemical contamination as other species is heresy. Especially since it might lead to people insisting on expensive new laws to make the corporations not pollute EDCs everywhere.

This is why there is a split inside the environmental movement between those willing to call out what EDCs do to humans, versus those who feel addressing it is inherently bigoted to non-hetero's. Plus, well, LGBT money is just as good as the next person, and they usually don't have families to spend it on, so corpo's love using them to virtue signal.

At one time I considered myself bi, however these days I don't find males attractive and frankly despise what the whole Rainbow Bridge shit has become and began to defend.

I've never cared for the whole rainbow flag BS, and frankly never felt like the activists truly helped things after Obergfell came down. They could take the W and just be content, because the activist industry relies on problems never actually getting dealt with, instead of made worse, no matter whether the cause was gay marriage/LGB acceptance or CRT bullshit (often the two overlap).

These days about the only org of any flavor in that realm that I trust is Gays Against Groomers, and they've gotten multiple 'all ages' drag shows canned.

 

[shangrila]

The percentage of guys willing to suck dicks, as opposed to the guys claiming to be gay or a made up sexuality or whatever, has been pretty constant.

Has it though? Socrates only liking women was noted as a particular oddity about him, and lots of his admirers just could not wrap their minds around it.

That said, given every historical example of homosexuality has been pederastic, it might be that there is a small constant number of men attracted to adult men, who get wrapped up with a much larger number of pederasts when social conditions are right.

 

[Abhorsen]

Has it though? Socrates only liking women was noted as a particular oddity about him, and lots of his admirers just could not wrap their minds around it.

I was referring more to the 20th/21st centuries, where it was more or less about 1-5% up until there was a blip recently, that I think will be corrected if you exclude people who ID as trans.

That said, given every historical example of homosexuality has been pederastic, it might be that there is a small constant number of men attracted to adult men, who get wrapped up with a much larger number of pederasts when social conditions are right.

Yeah, I could see the second explanation. We see a pretty constant pattern of gay animals, so I'm pretty sure to some extent, it is natural and an evolutionary advantage to have some percentage of gays or the like (due to kin selection).

We also see that a lot of pederasts (namely the ones that go after young children) are otherwise straight when it comes to adult sexualities. It's lapsed pedophiles (those who go after teenagers) who have a link with their sexuality.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I was referring more to the 20th/21st centuries, where it was more or less about 1-5% up until there was a blip recently, that I think will be corrected if you exclude people who ID as trans.

Good time to add that Socrates not sucking dick was seen as weird not because Athenians were wholesome and tolerant of gays but because assfucking was seen as a form of social networking and dominance ala Rome or Japan.

tldr: it was more "Brah, why aren't you doing the booty linkdin" than anything else.

 

[DarthOne]

Has it though? Socrates only liking women was noted as a particular oddity about him, and lots of his admirers just could not wrap their minds around it.

That said, given every historical example of homosexuality has been pederastic, it might be that there is a small constant number of men attracted to adult men, who get wrapped up with a much larger number of pederasts when social conditions are right.

Don’t make me tap the sign.