As I mentioned earlier, even conservatives have internalized leftism. One of the most common ways I see this is magical thinking regarding assimilation, as though it were just the most natural thing in the world and is inevitable. It’s not, assimilation isn’t going to happen, and holding on to the pipe dream that it will just plays right into the left’s hands.
It absolutely isn't, they forget that Western societies perfected cultural Imperialism because they spent thousands of years making damn sure their sales pitch was air tight and part of that was "If you rock the boat, we smash your head in first then go get the native sons who were stupid enough to help you and smash their heads as well".
When England and the US were strong, dynamic, assertive and robust. When they were juggernauts who triumphed over everything that came against them and only compromised if they FUBAR'd the oher guy first? Yeah...people wanted to be part of that.
Now, they see us as weaklings...and conservatives have told themselves that's okay...cultural suicide is a far better alternative to the dreaded N, R or N words!
Maybe that's why so many of them are burying daughters or seeing them go crazy...Because "I'd rather keep my hands clean as a corpse than sully my principles". There's no mystery to raising daughters, if you explain shit they tend to listen. But if your explanation amounts to "No, not even to save you sweetheart"...Yeah they're gonna search for an answer elsewhere..and if you hate where they went..well...
I reckon like IWD says it will vary on culture, I think he and you are right that some groups never will assimilate because they can't.
I would argue for revoking the citizenship of mass deporting every EU defending Euro-leftist from either the UK or the US. To quote a Jamaican friend of mine "A white Swede who thinks its the duty of every first world to become the third world...is just as dangerous to the stability of your nation as a radical Islamist" and I don't think he's wrong on that front.
There are some peoples, who by their values are utterly incongruent with the longterm prosperity of your nation and the health of your neighborhood.
You can rectify that without killing everyone though.
But I don't think its universal and I don't think it has to be an element of conquest or force.
The Irish integrated, it wasn't clean because Irish immigrants in the past were treated like shit and ghettoized not unlike what we see in modern times. Yet now you'd never know except by maybe names.
Likewise after WWII the UK got a bunch of Poles immigrating, and again apart from the names today you'd never know.
It can be done but yeah, some people don't want it and thats no good for anyone concerned.
Depends on the nation,...and depends on the culture.
The US even in regards to native Americans, conquered more by assimilation solely because they had a better offer. The English made the world English much in the same way, though with more conquest.
Cultures like Ancient Egypt, didn't need to do a god damn thing..They didn't even need to expand all that dramatically. For the longest time they were literally a millennia ahead of their neighbors technologically. Egyptian demographics changed but its core culture was almost immutable..they changed in some ways, but what made them, them didn't. Hell even Persia and Greece ended up being semi reverse assimilated.
It took Rome put the Kibosh on that..Because they had a better "product" and they were very good at mandating integration (Until they ran into the Germans any way). And then they got screwed by Arab invaders...but yeah.
I do think there are certain times where force is required to achieve integration. But that force can come in a variety of different ways...
edit - and for the record it isn't universal..Some you need to either cut loose or drag kicking and screaming..But most only require seeing an offer for something better to get on board.
We lose our shit as a people when we can't tell who is who..though.
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