Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

If future historians can even find records of it that is

The power to memoryhole much of history is great, alongside the willingness of people to ignore or be complicit

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Hell, even if this were an actual line, people can say it’s false or “taken out of context” or metaphorical


as some one who worked in the field.

The kind of cultish age we are living in is not going to last. Oh it will suck balls and I honestly think we will enter a civil war In a generation or so. But the people we are complaining about they don't last, and don't build things to last. The SJW movement as whole does not have a future.


The truth will come out and will have its day in court, it wont happen this year or even this decade but it will win out. of course that doesn't help us out one fucking bit but then again it always sucks to live through these kinds of times.
 
That labtop should have been the end of bidens career, future historians will no doubt write about the corruption of the news media.
It is probably why votes for Trump broke the dominion algorithm that was intended to shift the vote to Biden.

It's probably why they had to stop counting, kick out observers, and make adjustments and bring in additional fake ballots.

The laptop probably played a HUGE role. That's why they got sloppy with the fixing of the election. They were taken by surprise by the level of Trump votes.

Without the laptop and a "normal" election, they could have ran their algorithm, never stopped counting half way through the night, and would have gotten away with it.
 
as some one who worked in the field.

The kind of cultish age we are living in is not going to last. Oh it will suck balls and I honestly think we will enter a civil war In a generation or so. But the people we are complaining about they don't last, and don't build things to last. The SJW movement as whole does not have a future.


The truth will come out and will have its day in court, it wont happen this year or even this decade but it will win out. of course that doesn't help us out one fucking bit but then again it always sucks to live through these kinds of times.

That's still being kinda optimistic

Also, found the Pomas vid, whatever a Pomas is



And for all that talk about Biden supposedly backstabbing "Progressives" he and the rest of the establishment needs them to get people to back down lest they get cancelled

But yeah.....it'll take awhile, thing is people will have to live through that "awhile" and who knows what may occur

For example, I can see more Desmond "Is Amazing" Napoles imitators coming around en masse and no one stopping or looking up their parents or guardians for this ironically bigoted idea alongside ex-trans people suing sex-change clinics amongst other things

They needs these guys doing frankly unhappy things to themselves to keep power
 
It is probably why votes for Trump broke the dominion algorithm that was intended to shift the vote to Biden.

It's probably why they had to stop counting and made adjustments and bring in fake ballots.


The smart thing to do once they realized they were in a shit position was to let Sanders have this let him crash and burn and then purge the party of the crazies.

Having decided to fight this to the last the smart thing to do was pick a likable new face, not some one you have to hide In a basement.

Having done that not riot for months on end pissing people off.

Having done that the smart thing to do was take the loss on the chin and have an honest election. It would be 2-4 years out of power and then they could come right back with JFK 2.0

Deciding to cheat and being so bad at it that African countries can legit call you out on it, takes the escalation form a 7 and pushes it to an 8. All the institutional power you have just amassed is now at risk and a single fuck up puts Trump in office with a completely enraged base and lots of people looking for payback.

And even if they win, they now have a gaft machine with a scandal worse then water gate, a completely enraged and growing populist movement with a mayrtr, and a now unavoidable democrat civil war.

In holding on to power too tightly they may have just garenteed that they will lose it.
 
There is no one credible who has said that laptop is fake...

The head of national Intelligence told us it's real.

I've seen the videos on it.

People who were in the email chains confirmed it's real.

That was real.

Just like the irregularities in these vote counts are real.

You don't have the like it, but this is reality. I'm not even saying voter/electoral fraud right now. At the very least, there were large errors, benefiting Biden. These are real, they're provable, and no one is really even denying them. Some have even been corrected for. You don't correct for things that aren't real.

You can argue whether it was fraud or not, but you don't get to pretend that objective reality does not exist. 2+2 does not equal 5. There are 4 lights.
Didn't one of Hunter's associates also confirm Chinese money being involved? Some ex nuclear sub crewman?
 
So, what can the Supreme court do if wide spread election fraud has been determined to occur?

That's a good question because I don't think it's occurred yet.

In Bush v. Gore they merely stopped the recount process based on the Equal Protection Clause (since counties recounted votes differently) and rejected the remedy of a statewide recount using universal standards because that could never be done before the December 18th Elector meeting in Florida and would therefore "illegitimize" the election.

Here the argument before the SCOTUS I'm assumimg (if to overturn the alleged results) would be to throw out votes based on irregularities. Thats an issue I dont recall ever coming up.
 
Guys, just ignore the anti-Trump people trying to legitimize Biden's attempt to steal this election.

Trump still has ways to legally win, and measures he can take to ensure the election fraud is dealt with by people/groups who are not part of the corrupt deep state establishment.

Anti-Trump people will twist anything that happens to make it seem bad for Trump, and ignore anything good for Trump.

Lines have been drawn, and knowing who to trust the words of is more important than ever. View every claim by anti-Trump people with deep distrust, and do not treat them as doing anything in good faith.
 
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Since you didn't include anything in post, I will give the TLDR version for everyone here.

They inadvertently filed an early draft instead of the finished order, fixed the issue, and are now either waiting for the other side to reply, or sending in a request to chambers for an expedited briefing schedule.
 
Since you didn't include anything in post, I will give the TLDR version for everyone here.

They inadvertently filed an early draft instead of the finished order, fixed the issue, and are now either waiting for the other side to reply, or sending in a request to chambers for an expedited briefing schedule.
Have I ever told you I love you Vaermina? You are amazing at debunking anti-trump retoric about the lawsuites
 
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How is that bad for asking for that? Because they said wrong state?
So would you he able to file such a large lawsuit in record time and have ir perfect?
 
There is no one credible who has said that laptop is fake...

The head of national Intelligence told us it's real.

I've seen the videos on it.

People who were in the email chains confirmed it's real.

That was real.

Just like the irregularities in these vote counts are real.

You don't have the like it, but this is reality. I'm not even saying voter/electoral fraud right now. At the very least, there were large errors, benefiting Biden. These are real, they're provable, and no one is really even denying them. Some have even been corrected for. You don't correct for things that aren't real.

You can argue whether it was fraud or not, but you don't get to pretend that objective reality does not exist. 2+2 does not equal 5. There are 4 lights.
Ratcliffe didn't say the laptop was "real". He said there wasn't evidence of it being a Russian operation. Which there wouldn't be. Even if you believe it was a Russian op, instead of just something made up. That doesn't mean it is actually Hunter Biden's laptop. The idea Biden took his computer to a shop in Delaware and abandoned it is pretty improbable. For one thing, he mostly doesn't live in Delaware. If they'd stuck to the misspelled letters trying to make it look Joe Biden got his son a cushy job it might have been believable,but it wouldn't have swung any significant number of votes. (If nepotism bothers you, you won't be voting for Trump).

Several news agencies requested to see the original files or hard drives and were not allowed to do so, preventing any forensic testing from being done to confirm their origins. Something that makes no sense if it were legitimate. And the laptop materialized out of the ether, just in time to try to influence the election.

When the corruption angle completely didn't catch on and they decided to add the QAnon, Biden eats babies nonsense they jumped the shark from plausible smear that nobody cared about to something no one not already sold on pizzagate would believe. Amusingly, if it were real, everyone involved in pushing this narrative would be in serious legal trouble. You can't hold onto, fail to report, or duplicate child pornography as a private citizen. If this weren't completely made up, Giuliani would be getting debarred at a bare minimum.

But it is made up. And I think almost everyone knows it, even if they pretend to the contrary. If the people pretending to believe it really cared about sexual abuse, they'd have raised hell when it became clear Trump hung out with Jeffery Epstein. Or when he bragged about assaulting women. Or when his ex-wife described him sexually assaulting her. Or when he went into the dressing rooms of a teen beauty pageant. Or any number of other acts of clear disrespect for women's and girls' bodily autonomy.
Guys, just ignore the anti-Trump people trying to legitimize Biden's attempt to steal this election.

Trump still has ways to legally win, and measures he can take to ensure the election fraud is dealt with by people/groups who are not part of the corrupt deep state establishment.

Anti-Trump people will twist anything that happens to make it seem bad for Trump, and ignore anything good for Trump.

Lines have been drawn, and knowing who to trust the words of is more important than ever. View every claim by anti-Trump people with deep distrust, and do not treat them as doing anything in good faith.
This is unfair. The fact is, these narratives where some last minute legal chicanery means Trump wins because he is the incumbent are just slightly better than sovereign citizens complaining about gold fringed flags. The idea of a contingent election isn't some wild legal theory. it has happened multiple times and is the constitutionally prescribed response to the EC failing to grant a majority of electoral votes to any candidate for executive office. Any twisting comes from a desperate attempt to spin a narrative where Trump has a chance to win despite the election results.

It won't happen. Trump lost the election, so his candidates for elector won't be casting votes. But if it did happen, a vote in the House would be the result.

Deciding to listen to a bunch of grifters like Giuliani and Powell because they tell you what you want to hear is a choice you can make, but it isn't going to do anything but feed you reassurances and try to get you to donate money. The idea that anybody posting here is trying to "legitimize" anything is absurd. The opinion of people on sci-fi message boards isn't going to determine the outcome of the election. Nothing you or I say will make one iota of difference. The voters did that when they selected Biden.

I know it isn't pleasant to think someone you think is awful won an election. I was certainly unhappy with Trump's electoral college victory in 2016. (Joe Biden isn't the man you think he is. I wish he were. I'd love if he were the radical Marxist crusader for trans rights the far right believes he is. But he is just a moderate, about where Obama and Bush were politically.) I understand not wanting to face that. But that is the reality. Trump sold a narrative where everyone outside of himself and his supporters were corrupt. It was a lie. Trump wasn't fighting a grand battle. There is no secret cabal of devil worshippers running Washington D.C. After his term, things will continue like they did during his term, with possibly a few more civil rights protections for LGBT people and maybe a better healthcare bill if we're lucky.

I don't want you to feel bad. But you are setting yourself up for a disappointment, and a lot of people are getting scammed into giving bad people their money because they believe it will help. And both of those things suck. I don't expect you to take this post well, but I promise it is meant well.
 
I mean, I think @mesonoxian is being incredibly polite on saying that you people are "setting yourself up for a disappointment." My much more blunt take is that I am not going to be in the slightest surprised if someone here ends up on the news in six months.
What your missing is that, if Biden become president, it'll be for simply criticizing regressive leftist ideology in public.
 
I mean, I think @mesonoxian is being incredibly polite on saying that you people are "setting yourself up for a disappointment." My much more blunt take is that I am not going to be in the slightest surprised if someone here ends up on the news in six months.

My take is that he is being incredibly patronizing, in fact(and I say this as someone who doesn't believe Trump will be able to revert the election result - he was put in a position where it's extremely unlikely he would have the time to gather the evidence needed to revert this). I don't know enough about mesonoxian to even try to guess whether it's intentional or not, but it seems to me his post is more likely to enrage people than to make them stop and engage in polite discourse.

He also shows he doesn't understand at all the people who he's addressing when he says 'Biden is more like Bush and Obama, he's not as bad as you think he is', because for the ones he's addressing, this is already a very damning comparison - remember who Trump was/is a reaction to!
 
How about we all just be a bit patient and wait for the Courts to decide? That goes for some of our more Democrat leaning members too. Don't set yourselves up for disappointment if history rhymes.
The courts have already decided you guy's keep refusing to acknowledge that. The Trump administration is down 39-1 in term of the cases it has won. There's a world of difference between 600 votes in one state, and having to overturn multi-thousand vote margins in at least 2/3 states.
 

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