Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

Zachowon

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Have you considered the possibility that their might not be enough evidence of voter fraud to have changed the outcome of the election? Bill Barr has been a hatchet man for a lot of different administrations, and probably wants to preserve some shred of credibility in order to do so in future.

Donald Trump has already said he'll be leaving office on January 20th. He knows he lost, even if his ego won't let him admit it. Every investigation has found no significant discrepancies, and Powell's obvious nonsense turned out to be obvious nonsense. A lot of people don't like Donald Trump and what he stands for and we came out in numbers to vote, even people who wouldn't normally voted Democrat for love or money. Joe biden couldn't get 80 million votes for himself, but Donald Trump could definitely get that many votes cast against him.
He will leave office if the electoral College vote him out.
Like...he is saying that because he isn't going to try and cause a coup.
That would be stupid....
 

mesonoxian

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He will leave office if the electoral College vote him out.
Like...he is saying that because he isn't going to try and cause a coup.
That would be stupid....
That's significant for a couple reasons. Firstly, he will be voted out by the electoral college, because there are more Biden electors than Trump electors. Secondly, the fact it would be stupid and counterproductive hasn't been enough reason for people to be sure it wouldn't happen. This is at least some indication he isn't planning to do this particular harmful things, and that is something to be grateful for.
 

Zachowon

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That's significant for a couple reasons. Firstly, he will be voted out by the electoral college, because there are more Biden electors than Trump electors. Secondly, the fact it would be stupid and counterproductive hasn't been enough reason for people to be sure it wouldn't happen. This is at least some indication he isn't planning to do this particular harmful things, and that is something to be grateful for.
Because he has ALWAYS said he would leave if he was fairly elected out....
And electors have not been chosen or voted yet. So things can change.

Add in that the electoral collegecan say "We cant decide because of voter fraud" andTrump wins by default if enough say that
 

Pocky Balboa

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Apparently Bill Barr has said there is not enough evidence (so far) of voter fraud serious enough to swing the election.

Not entirely sure what to make of that. Apparently he was meant to have been quite a reliable asset to Trump for the last four years.

LOL, the MSM.





And hey kiddos, the only "quote" with the word 'investigate' from the Barr in that article or the Bloomberg article or the AP article is (emphasis mine):

“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all," he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

Which, as anyone with a single braincell knows, isn't a quote. 'Cause quotes have to be, you know, in quotation marks if you want to show they actually SAID it.
 

Bacle

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LOL, the MSM.





And hey kiddos, the only "quote" with the word 'investigate' from the Barr in that article or the Bloomberg article or the AP article is (emphasis mine):



Which, as anyone with a single braincell knows, isn't a quote. 'Cause quotes have to be, you know, in quotation marks if you want to show they actually SAID it.
Fucking MSM twisting people's words again.

I will extend a little bit of credibility back to Barr, for now, because of the MSM lying about him again.

But Barr didn't do shit about Hunter's laptop and he's let the Durham farce run on far too long. So he doesn't have much cred with Trump supporters as it is right now.
 

mesonoxian

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Because he has ALWAYS said he would leave if he was fairly elected out....
And electors have not been chosen or voted yet. So things can change.

Add in that the electoral collegecan say "We cant decide because of voter fraud" andTrump wins by default if enough say that
Sure, but then when he lost the election he shouted and pretended he won. So having him accept reality in this minor way is reassuring. The electors have been voted on, and we know who they will be. We also know how they have promised (and in some cases are legally bound) to vote.

Legally electoral college could decide not to return a decision. They could also decide to declare Hillary Clinton the winner. But those things are both completely outside the realm of things that might actually happen.

If they don't choose a winner, the result isn't "incumbent wins by default", though. If no one receives 270 electoral college votes, there would be a contingent election in the House. If the House somehow failed to elect a president the vice president would become president. But Mike Pence's term is also up, meaning that if the electoral college didn't select a vice president, that race would also go to contingent election. So if the electoral college fails, and the House fails, the result would be both offices being unoccupied and the chain of succession kicks in.

So in that (wildly unlikely) scenario, the president wouldn't be Donald Trump. It would President Pelosi. Honestly seems like a trade up from any of the four executive office candidates to me.
But Barr didn't do shit about Hunter's laptop and he's let the Durham farce run on far too long. So he doesn't have much cred with Trump supporters as it is right now.
That's because "Hunter's laptop" was very obviously a fake that would never stand up to actual investigation.
 

Zachowon

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Sure, but then when he lost the election he shouted and pretended he won. So having him accept reality in this minor way is reassuring. The electors have been voted on, and we know who they will be. We also know how they have promised (and in some cases are legally bound) to vote.

Legally electoral college could decide not to return a decision. They could also decide to declare Hillary Clinton the winner. But those things are both completely outside the realm of things that might actually happen.

If they don't choose a winner, the result isn't "incumbent wins by default", though. If no one receives 270 electoral college votes, there would be a contingent election in the House. If the House somehow failed to elect a president the vice president would become president. But Mike Pence's term is also up, meaning that if the electoral college didn't select a vice president, that race would also go to contingent election. So if the electoral college fails, and the House fails, the result would be both offices being unoccupied and the chain of succession kicks in.

So in that (wildly unlikely) scenario, the president wouldn't be Donald Trump. It would President Pelosi. Honestly seems like a trade up from any of the four executive office candidates to me.

That's because "Hunter's laptop" was very obviously a fake that would never stand up to actual investigation.
Except he did win. He is going to prove it as well.1
 

mesonoxian

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Except he did win. He is going to prove it as well.1
No, I'm sorry, he didn't. I know it is disappointing, but at some point you have to face the facts. There have been people grifting Trump supporters, asking for donations for fruitless legal challenges, including Trump himself. But that is all these are. The recounts have left Biden firmly the leader. The cases brought up to challenge the election have been so obviously without merit that the judges have been chastizing the lawyers for bringing them to court. And the claims in the law suits, unsupported as they are, are still short of the things being said in front of the cameras for the consumption of Trump supporters.

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and lied repeatedly about that. He lost in 2020 and is lying again. No doubt if he'd lost the electoral college in 2016 he'd have claimed fraud there, too. (And before the knee jerk reply comes, the Democrats didn't claim Trump didn't actually win the electoral college. They didn't claim votes cast for Trump were fake. The claimed election interference from Russia, which is true. It was true this year, too. Interference isn't fraud.)

Quick edit, just to say I am going to bed. I need to be at work in seven hours and I have an hour commute, so I need to get some sleep. So please don't think me rude if I don't respond.

Have a good night.
 
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Except he did win. He is going to prove it as well.1
Zach, just ignore him.

We know who it is from SB/SV, but cannot out him due to the soft-dox rule.

You are dealing with a Far-Left loony who will ignore and misrepresent anything good for Trump, and has been a member of the Far-Left for a long time.

Consider him on the same tier of Far-Left loony as DrMcKay or Rufus was/are.
 

mesonoxian

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Zach, just ignore him.

We know who it is from SB/SV, but cannot out him due to the soft-dox rule.

You are dealing with a Far-Left loony who will ignore and misrepresent anything good for Trump, and has been a member of the Far-Left for a long time.

Consider him on the same tier of Far-Left loony as DrMcKay or Rufus was/are.
I am not on SB. I am on SV, using the same username I use here.

And I take offense to that claim. I am far farther to left than Dr. McKay. ;P
 

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And I take offense to that claim. I am far farther to left than Dr. McKay. ;P
Then what are you doing here? The land of the reds is beyond the sea!!! :p
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In any case welcome to The Sietch dont expect the mods to help you win your argument here.
 
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Cherico

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Zach, just ignore him.

We know who it is from SB/SV, but cannot out him due to the soft-dox rule.

You are dealing with a Far-Left loony who will ignore and misrepresent anything good for Trump, and has been a member of the Far-Left for a long time.

Consider him on the same tier of Far-Left loony as DrMcKay or Rufus was/are.

Rufus was at least entertaining and had the excuse of being French.
 

Rocinante

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There is no one credible who has said that laptop is fake...

The head of national Intelligence told us it's real.

I've seen the videos on it.

People who were in the email chains confirmed it's real.

That was real.

Just like the irregularities in these vote counts are real.

You don't have the like it, but this is reality. I'm not even saying voter/electoral fraud right now. At the very least, there were large errors, benefiting Biden. These are real, they're provable, and no one is really even denying them. Some have even been corrected for. You don't correct for things that aren't real.

You can argue whether it was fraud or not, but you don't get to pretend that objective reality does not exist. 2+2 does not equal 5. There are 4 lights.
 

Rocinante

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I'm guessing what you have to say about what you saw won't exactly be something we can rest quietly seeing
It turns out what I saw was not Actually a minor, so that's a relief and I can talk about it.

But I had regretted clicking that link and then finding out it was a minor (as suspected at the time.)

I freaked out and deleted my history and began to panic. I felt sick to my stomach. It had a very negative mental impact on me and I wished I'd never seen it or clicked the link. Brain bleach please.

It later turned out she was a Chinese intelligence official, not a minor. That's a huge relief.

But this shit is real. Period.
 

CarlManvers2019

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That labtop should have been the end of bidens career, future historians will no doubt write about the corruption of the news media.

If future historians can even find records of it that is

The power to memoryhole much of history is great, alongside the willingness of people to ignore or be complicit

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Hell, even if this were an actual line, people can say it’s false or “taken out of context” or “metaphorical”

Already I’ve tried looking up that vid with Biden saying “The Pomas” and it redirects to stuff making him look inspiring somehow



Same with this being "out of context"



You could even do stuff like this and get praised somehow. Hell, I'm surprised that this kid's still being shown on youtube even.
 
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