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Just wait until they start doing remakes of remakes.

But California is losing the war here. The explosion in technology at first centered itself there, but now it's going to spread throughout the country. Making B movies with even cheap equipment looks better than what some small studios could do 30 or 40 years ago. Technology is also going to be spreading throughout the country in terms of software and hardware companies. The major focus won't be in Silicon Valley anymore. Especially when the global order ends and California is left swinging in the wind.
It always does when the gravy train ends.
 
Speaking of which...



Glad to see MSM is all on the same script.


Stitch everything together swapping them out as required to make them all say the same thing, and then play them again to make it sound more intimidating? Also there are 829 local news stations in the USA so even with hot swapping some of them to stitch the sentences together it only comes to 5%. No time stamps so possibly curated clips from 4 years.

Look, this works both ways. You have to apply critical thinking to the sources on both sides, not just the one you hate.
 
Stitch everything together swapping them out as required to make them all say the same thing, and then play them again to make it sound more intimidating? Also there are 829 local news stations in the USA so even with hot swapping some of them to stitch the sentences together it only comes to 5%. No time stamps so possibly curated clips from 4 years.

Look, this works both ways. You have to apply critical thinking to the sources on both sides, not just the one you hate.

Thanks mom, I'll try not to get raped walking across the street to Tippy's house.

Yes, it might be a fake. I suppose that might be true. Then again, it's just as possible that several of these smaller news stations are owned by larger stations and they all passed out the same script.
 
Thanks mom, I'll try not to get raped walking across the street to Tippy's house.

Yes, it might be a fake. I suppose that might be true. Then again, it's just as possible that several of these smaller news stations are owned by larger stations and they all passed out the same script.
Don't many of these journo sites regurgitate similar lines in their news articles?
 
Don't many of these journo sites regurgitate similar lines in their news articles?

They do, but not all the time. It generally only happens when there is a massive, massive push for something. And what you'll see is generally certain words turn up. Like 'dark' was a popular one. So was 'baseless'. Now that may just be meme-based, as many of these people probably fly around in the same circle, but some of it is probably intentional.
 
So, not having posted in this thread for a few days, I'm not trying to be a killjoy here, but has actually something justiciable transpired so far? Something that's been accepted in a relevant court and/or has been cross-checked by authorities and/or independent third parties and holds up to scrutiny? Because no matter how "our" side tries to frame this, right now we have Trump tweets and a boatload of allegations, and that's more or less all I see we have had for the past two weeks.

Yes, we have sworn affidavits. Yes, we have statistical anomalies. Yes, we have allegations of dead and/or illegals voting on mass.

But: an affidavit is basically the law system equivalent of someone saying "I strongly believe smth." which really doesn't add up to much as long as it has not been corrobarated by evidence - by the authorities. So far, we are still at the "I strongly believe smth."-stage, right? There were affidavits against justice Kavanaugh, too, right? Which couldn't be backed up by facts - and thus ended up meaning nothing.
The same for the statistics: as long as these have been followed up by third-party analysis, recounts and full audits by the relevant local, state and federal authorities to a standard holding up in court that's just what they are: statistical anomalies. Glaring ones, as in, neon-sign like "look something is wrong here, buggers" ones. But unverified by those who actually count.
Last being the dead and/or illegal votes: have these been evaluated and proven to have happened at a scale above of individual cases that happened because people incorrectly gave their birth dates? I know "our" side broadly states these lists of thousands of peoples exist.

But the thing is: as long as none of these hold up in court or even make it to court in the first place, they don't mean a damn thing for the outcome of the election! Yes, it took far longer for Florida to be cleared and called. Yes, it's still weeks until the window closes fully for Trump. But I'd like to see something justiciable at some point. Because if that doesn't happen, a lot of people on the right will end up right at the same point that they themselves mocked the insane lefties for four years ago.
 
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So, not having posted in this thread for a few days, I'm not trying to be a killjoy here, but has actually something justiciable transpired so far? Something that's been accepted in a relevant court and/or has been cross-checked by authorities and/or independent third parties and holds up to scrutiny? Because no matter how "our" side tries to frame this, right now we have Trump tweets and a boatload of allegations, and that's more or less all I see we have had for the past two weeks.

Yes, we have sworn affidavits. Yes, we have statistical anomalies. Yes, we have allegations of dead and/or illegals voting on mass.

But: an affidavit is basically the law system equivalent of someone saying "I strongly believe smth." which really doesn't add up to much as long as it has been corrobarated by evidence - by the authorities. So far, we are still at the "I strongly believe smth."-stage, right? There were affidavits against justice Kavanaugh, too, right? Which couldn't be backed up by facts - and thus ended up meaning nothing.
The same for the statistics: as long as these have been followed up by third-party analysis, recounts and full audits by the relevant local, state and federal authorities to a standard holding up in court that's just what they are: statistical anomalies. Glaring ones, as in, neon-sign like "look something is wrong here, buggers" ones. But unverified by those who actually count.
Last being the dead and/or illegal votes: have these been evaluated and proven to have happened at a scale above of individual cases that happened because people incorrectly gave their birth dates? I know "our" side broadly states these lists of thousands of peoples exist.

But the thing is: as long as none of these hold up in court or even make it to court in the first place, they don't mean a damn thing for the outcome of the election! Yes, it took far longer for Florida to be cleared and called. Yes, it's still weeks until the window closes fully for Trump. But I'd like to see something justiciable at some point. Because if that doesn't happen, a lot of people on the right will end up right at the same point that they themselves mocked the insane lefties for four years ago.
You could talk about the rally where it was open season for violence to be had.
 
Gloating before he wins is foolish. You're all feeding the troll with that.

The reality is, and I'm tired of being called a doomer for it: Trump probably isn't going to remain president.

Do I believe all the claims of fraud? Absolutely. I've seen enough. I believe it.

Do I think they'll manage to turn the election back to Trump, the legitimate winner? Nope.

Do I hope they can? Absolutely.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

You should all be working to bolster yourself for this potential loss. Seriously. Gloating about a win before it even happens will just make you look like a dumbass if it doesn't. It'll make you feel shitty later. So why feed the troll? You're just giving him more shit to throw at you later. He's here to collect salt, gloat and laugh at you. You're giving him exactly that.

I get fucking tired of being called a doomer or demoralized. There isn't a damn thing I can do, except sit and wait. I'm not going to let myself get overly hopeful just to be deflated and let down. I'm also not going to panic. I am going to do the only thing I can do: wait for the process to go through, and spread the correct news to people when I have the opportunity.

Being "demoralized," means NOTHING, regarding the legal processes that are going down. They'll either work, or they won't, and my mindset has no bearing over it. Convincing myself that be is going to pull this off, against a odds, does not increase the chance that he will.

So, I choose to have a mindset that is prepared to lose. That way when/if he does lose, I've already processed it and can move on.

Now some of you will come in to tell me how our republic is basically over, if he doesn't pull this off. They'll use this as justification as to why I should panic. I choose not to panic. This, again, is out of my control. I agree that our republic is in grave danger. These are dire circumstances, and very well could be over, and is certainly on the path towards it.

You must remember: It's not too late yet. We have a supreme court, and republicans will hopefully hold the Senate. We have a bunch of smaller courts and a bunch of state legislatures. Even if Biden takes the presidency, this was a weak ass win. He will have 4 years of gridlock and be forced to work through executive actions. Which can easily be overturned by the next guy.

We are in for 4 years of this mess. Then we can take it back. You better believe in 4 years time, this election security is going to be better, we will demand nothing less.

So for now, I'll do what I can do. Hope for, and prepare for, a red wave in 2022 and 2024. I'll donate where necessary and spread the word of candidates. Maybe even collect signatures and get voters signed up, when the time comes.

As of now, it's sit and wait. Right now, I honestly think it's unlikely he pulls off this maneuver and takes his legitimate win. I just don't see it happening. Too much stuff has to go just right.

He got cheated. It sucks. It's time to start trying to prevent that from happening again.

No need to panic.

"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference."
The fact is if Biden and the Dems cheat thier way in this time, they will again in the future, starting with the GA run-off race that can make Harris the tie-breaker.

If the Dems are allowed to cheat their way into power, the will do everything possible to make it easier for them to cheat and stay in power going forward. Do not forget that the pandemic is still in play, and allows end-runs around Constitution laws and civil rights like nothing before it. The Dems will drag out the pandemic as long as possible, likely vetoing 'Trump's vaccine' and forcing companies to start from scratch.

And who's to say they won't find other excuses for lockdowns and mass mail-in votes come 2022 and 2024? Or what's stopping them from simply granting citizenship to illegal immigrants to turn red states blue?

If Biden/ Harris get in, our 1st and 2nd Amendment are toast, and that's just the start of the way they will butcher our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
 
The fact is if Biden and the Dems cheat thier way in this time, they will again in the future, starting with the GA run-off race that can make Harris the tie-breaker.

If the Dems are allowed to cheat their way into power, the will do everything possible to make it easier for them to cheat and stay in power going forward. Do not forget that the pandemic is still in play, and allows end-runs around Constitution laws and civil rights like nothing before it. The Dems will drag out the pandemic as long as possible, likely vetoing 'Trump's vaccine' and forcing companies to start from scratch.

And who's to say they won't find other excuses for lockdowns and mass mail-in votes come 2022 and 2024? Or what's stopping them from simply granting citizenship to illegal immigrants to turn red states blue?

If Biden/ Harris get in, our 1st and 2nd Amendment are toast, and that's just the start of the way they will butcher our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Trump didn’t lose because he was cheated. It is impossible in this country to have fraud over 1000 votes. You are doing more to hand those senate seats to Democrats than Biden is with your rambling. Grow up, accept Trump pissed off to many people with his attitude to win, and get ready. This is not the end, and that you say it is shows how fundamentally immature you are.
 
The fact is if Biden and the Dems cheat thier way in this time, they will again in the future, starting with the GA run-off race that can make Harris the tie-breaker.

If the Dems are allowed to cheat their way into power, the will do everything possible to make it easier for them to cheat and stay in power going forward. Do not forget that the pandemic is still in play, and allows end-runs around Constitution laws and civil rights like nothing before it. The Dems will drag out the pandemic as long as possible, likely vetoing 'Trump's vaccine' and forcing companies to start from scratch.

And who's to say they won't find other excuses for lockdowns and mass mail-in votes come 2022 and 2024? Or what's stopping them from simply granting citizenship to illegal immigrants to turn red states blue?

If Biden/ Harris get in, our 1st and 2nd Amendment are toast, and that's just the start of the way they will butcher our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I don't think it'll be pretty, what happens, if Biden gets in, and I believe if he does, that it was through fraud.

But I've done what I can to prevent it.

Now I'm hoping the Senate can hold Biden and co. back for two years, and then we take back the house, and two years from then, president.

I'm not sure they'll be able to pull off a cheat like this again. They threw in all the cards and exposed the weaknesses this time.

I think it'll be a situation where they can't really pull the same trick twice. We're on to them and we know exactly what they'll do. Next time we will be prepared. Unless they're able to change laws that make it easier for them to get elected.

I'm not happy about it, and I have a grim outlook for the future under Biden, but it's looking like things will be going that way, and I am just looking to the future now.

Again, me panicking about it won't change things. The only thing I CAN do is plan for the loss. Being demoralized or not, won't change the outcome. I'm not expecting it to happen. I'll be happy if it does.
 
Trump didn’t lose because he was cheated. It is impossible in this country to have fraud over 1000 votes. You are doing more to hand those senate seats to Democrats than Biden is with your rambling. Grow up, accept Trump pissed off to many people with his attitude to win, and get ready. This is not the end, and that you say it is shows how fundamentally immature you are.
How are you saying it is impossible for a country of 300 million to have fake votes? You seem to be going from the assumption that nothing can be wrong because reasons. I hate to tell you but zombie Reagan doesn’t show up and attack those who try to cheat.
 
Trump didn’t lose because he was cheated. It is impossible in this country to have fraud over 1000 votes. You are doing more to hand those senate seats to Democrats than Biden is with your rambling. Grow up, accept Trump pissed off to many people with his attitude to win, and get ready. This is not the end, and that you say it is shows how fundamentally immature you are.
Take your trolling and bullshit and shove it.

Ignoring the growing piles of evidence to keep the Left's narrative going is what I see a lot of people doing.

If Trump loses, it will be because the Dems cheated, and there institutional and media power convinced sheep like you that everything was above the board while pressuring cowards in the GOP and judiciary to enable the steal.
 

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