Unfortunately, I am irreligious, I have few things else to trust.
Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)
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Unfortunately, I am irreligious, I have few things else to trust.
I am personally flabbergasted that the US states don't just have websites where you can look up official tallies. Even allowing for 50 state jurisdiction, it just boggles the mind...
I mean, relying on media outlets to give people the information is just bizarre.
Any confirmation on those Michigan or Wisconsin 'glitch' stories? (other than Gateway pundit) the article itself and the instance it mentioned could have just been a news service having a glitch rather than the official machines and tabulation having one.
I mean, relying on media outlets to give people the information is just bizarre.
Any confirmation on those Michigan or Wisconsin 'glitch' stories? (other than Gateway pundit) the article itself and the instance it mentioned could have just been a news service having a glitch rather than the official machines and tabulation having one.
I'm actually staring in disbelief at how badly the Democrats tried to commit electoral fraud.
Anyway, putting my money where my mouth is:
The "Bonus" was from a Betfair promotion: basically, if it wins, they'll just subtract £5.00 from the winnings.
Anyway, putting my money where my mouth is:
The "Bonus" was from a Betfair promotion: basically, if it wins, they'll just subtract £5.00 from the winnings.
Abhishekm
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Secretaries of States have official unofficial tallies on their sites I think.
Floridaman
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I shouldn’t need to remind you never bet anything you don’t mind losing, if it doesn’t turn out the way the board hopes.
It's just spare change I had around, basically.
Floridaman
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Cool, just thought I should issue a reminder since this is effectively the same as making an inside bet at the table.
At least one MI "glitch" has been publicly and widely confirmed.
Which one, the republican city clerk has officially stated it was caused by human error and quickly fixed.
Yes, because human error suddenly crops up, in multiple instances, at the same time, for the benefit of the same person over the course of a handful of days. That sounds plausible. Eminently believable in fact!
It wasn't, that error can not be caused by "human error" in the Dominion system unless you are already in a manual data entry mode to modify votes.
How Dominion counts votes is that the tabulation machine scans them, it saves them to the system, it forwards a copy of the tally to a Dominion server which serves AP/DDHQ and the state's official page.
There is no step in the process where an individual is manually typing in vote numbers.
And the "official" and "unofficial" databases mirror each other.
To get six thousand Trump votes assigned to Biden is a software issue, period. The only way that it could be human error is if the human is in admin mode and is manually modifying the data (which should not be done at all).
The nominal human error in this case, a failure to update the system, is farcical. Vote switching should not ever be a feature that is *possible* in a well designed electronic voting system, much less in a system that has been live for years.
But then, it is a matter of official government record in both Texas and Georgia that Dominion voting systems are fundamentally insecure and trivial to manipulate. Shared SSL certs, the ability to backload from the unofficial into the official datasets, live internet connections 24/7, decimalized vote tallying, unchangeable 2fa codes that are only a single digit long, spy ware loaded onto their servers, administrator logins and passwords available on the darkweb; the list goes on.
One of the few goods things about this whole shit fest of an election is that it just might make the public aware of how spectacularly fucked up our voting system is and force actual change so it ceases to be so very fucked up.
So, @Emperor Tippy why would she make a false claim like that then? Is it ignorance? Is it ass covering? Or is she a backstabbing RINO? It just occurs to me that denying the truth means you are either stupid, ignorant/misled or you are hiding something.
Duke Nukem
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So Old Joe is eating too high on the hog? At least that is the impression I am getting from that tweet and all the evidence thus far.
1) She probably isn't aware of how the system functions.
2) Dominion is incredibly hard against anyone who calls out how bullshit their system is and has billions of dollars along with political connections at the highest levels (chief lobbyist used to be Pelosi's aid, Dianne Feinstein's husband owns a major interest, the CEO is close personal friends and associates with Soros, they partner with the Clinton Foundation, etc.).
3) If she calls it anything but human error then it means she is claiming that the tabulation system is flawed. That system is used in thirty states including every swing state. Anything that casts credible doubt on Dominion means at a minimum hand recounts in every battleground state.
"Oh, it was human error. I failed to download an update." is an ignorable issue. She might even sincerely think that is the case.
"We have no clue why the tabulation system switched thousands of votes from Trump to Biden" is instantly the biggest story in the world.
A failure to update causing vote switching like that is a scathing indictment of the entire system if you think about it. But with how the system functions, human error could not cause that vote switching unless she was using the admin panel to manually manipulate votes (which is an equally huge issue).
Human runs ballot through tabulator. Human clicks export and exports the official records to a USB to transport to the SecState in pure security theater. Everything else is automated in the normal course.
To get a flawed vote total showing up on the SecState webpage/AP/DDHQ that flawed vote total first has to be entered into the official tally as approved. Then it is copied over to the unofficial tally. Then that is sent off to the Dominion server for combination and repackaging to be served up to AP/DDHQ/the state page. Nowhere in that process is a human involved beyond (if the right options are checked) pressing the "export unofficial" button.
A "failure to update" flipping votes between candidates could only be the explanation if the update had flipped which candidate was in which cell of the database (i.e. Trump is '1' in the old version and '2' in the new version) and it had been unevenly applied across tabulation machines. Ignoring how utterly idiotic the system design has to be to cause that to be possible (this is Dominion so idiotic system design is assumed as standard), it doesn't answer the question of why in the world an update is doing that. The machines should be loaded with the same ballot data well before that point.
But then, Dominion showed in Georgia that they are willing to push updates literally the night before the election (and have still failed to specify just what was in that update or how widely it was deployed).
If the errors occasionally benefited Trump, then I could buy it as errors. If just once in a while machines flipped some votes to Trump...maybe.
Yet somehow every irregularity that's been weeded out, Every machine "glitch" that has been found, has all benefited Biden. All of it. Every bit.
This was no mistake.
It definitely isn't, it has longed pass for happenstance, to coincidence, and shot way past enemy action. It isn't conspiracy theory if there is actually some conspiracy...wait it isn't a conspiracy because it is out in the open. This is Soviet Union level of openness in their political corruption, even the endemic political graft that is in Quebec isn't that blatant.
This is a sloppy last ditch effort because they knew polls were wrong and that Trump could easily win.
It was a hail Mary play.
Take a crazy shot, Win at all costs, even if it means cheating, because if you win, you control the people who'd go after you.
They weren't expecting Trump and co. to be prepared for this.
Now we have two battlegrounds back in play in 24 hours? Was it Arizona and PA? it was it 4? Some corrected glitches and recounts put GA and WI back into play too, didn't they?
I might be mixing states up, but this appears to put four states back into play. This can actually work.
It's all fake news though! No evidence of voter fraud! Cope harder!
It's really weird. I don't have cable any longer, so I am not super exposed to it... but I saw some CNN in the breakroom at work. We are really living in two Americas with two realities. That news was all puff pieces about Biden and Kamala's families, healing America, bringing America together.
Meanwhile, while they talk about healing and unity, the other America is watching democrat leaders ponder creating lists of people to reeducate and punish for daring to have other opinions.
While they talk about "no evidence for voter fraud," we are looking at mountains of evidence of voter fraud.
You talk to these people who watch the left wing mainstream media, and they have no idea what's even going on. They only know the narrative and talking points that Colbert, Maddow, Lemon, Cumoe, Noah, etc. Give them.
Its really weird. Surreal, really. If this was a movie plot, I would complain about it being unrealistic. I was talking with one of them yesterday. Really friendly guy, just fully absorbed into the propaganda. He's living in an entirely different reality.
The thing is that I am not an American, so this problem is spread even further. It seems like reality around the world have been fractured, and we are looking through a broken glass, and doing so darkly. Plenty of people up here are completely put into sleep mode ala "They Live", while other people have awoken and see things for how they are, you even got radical MAGA types in Canada.
This is just pure insanity, like we are living in a time of madness were men go mad and then attack the sane claiming they are the ones that are crazy. You know the way they describe it, reminds me 100% of Pyro from Team Fortress 2. I mean talking about unity, while creating political blacklists/hitlists...
I look forward to coming here around January 21sth