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Well, media here are calling it a Biden victory, so I guess the media speaking up won as far as this is concerned?
 
Equity means everyone is literally a serf. If we are equal than there is no difference which means there is no value.

Inequality is not merely a fact of life, it is natural and good and must be preserved.

It is through inequality that there is true worth in anything under the sun.
 
Lord Invictus said:
Equity means everyone is literally a serf. If we are equal than there is no difference which means there is no value.

Inequality is not merely a fact of life, it is natural and good and must be preserved.

It is through inequality that there is true worth in anything under the sun.
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I don't think it has to be preserved, given its rather endemic nature.

LifeisTiresome said:
Leftists: Everyone is Nazi, Fascist, horrible people, etc.

I'm not one of the spineless centrists. I will call you out for the horrible people you are.
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None of you are Nazis, as far as I can tell. Fascists, I'm less sure about, but I know there's at least one. Horrible people... well, I haven't really seen the things you do, so my assessment is incomplete there too.
 
Chaos Marine said:
I still think President Trump won the election and will have four more years.



Even Tariq Nasheed thinks it was a con job.

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Look, if the typical Biden supporter is a Rakatan, we've been hosed since before this election began.
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Xilizhra said:
So how do you define "leftist" in this case?
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Well, the ideology supported nearly universally by the western worlds big money is egalitarian, authoritarian, anti-white, anti-western, anti-male, anti-Christian, anti-family, anti-nationalist, anti-middle class, they support abortion and birth control, favor sexual liberation/promiscuity, supports feminism, the LGBT... agenda, globalism, multiculturalism, atheism. They oppose parental involvement, local autonomy, white ethnic interests, nuclear families, small business, self employment, school choice, freedom of speech, gun ownership, and self defense. They support environmental regulation, centrally controlled economies and currencies, regulation of speech, regulating weapon ownership, regulation of business, and generally support larger government and bureaucracy in almost every instance. They strongly support large scale immigration into every western nation even when the immigrants are hostile to many of their progressive values - like a Muslims. They support the modern/postmodern academic orthodoxies such as critical theory, privilege, deconstruction, Intersectionality. They support a positive portrayal of communism and Marxism and are usually allies to communists even if they oppose full fledged theoretical anarcho-communism that many communists think that they support.
 
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Lord Invictus said:
I do not believe all men are created equal. Some are smarter and stronger, others more virtuous or lascivious.

Hierarchy is the foundation on which civilization is built.
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Hierarchy is a temporal fix for a temporal problem, but the kingdom of God is anarchy.

Syzygy said:
The paradox of equity requires someone be in a superior position to actually enforce it.
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Yes, this is why I don't think that we can achieve full class abolition in the current world, at least not with our current knowledge.
 
LifeisTiresome said:
Leftists: Everyone is Nazi, Fascist, horrible people, etc.

I'm not one of the spineless centrists. I will call you out for the horrible people you are.
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I don't really agree on calling everyone on the left horrible people, there certainly are a number of them, but there are a number who just have ideas I disagree with.

And one idea I very much disagree with is how people who support Trump do so because they're fascist or racist. One comment I've seen a number of times is something equivalent to "Welp, Trump got x votes, so we know there are x racists in the country'.

I know at least 5 people at work who voted Trump. Of them, 2 voted because they're die-hard republican, one because he's Mexican and he feels that Trump was the only politician really listening for him, one who flat out hates mass media and is voting Trump because he can't see Trump ever aligning with them, and one who didn't explain their reasons.

And yet, there are many people who would say that we're all the same, voting for the same reasons. It's generalizing many groups into one.

Media will claim at the drop of a hat that something only a few right-wing individuals do is enough to smear everyone supporting Trump, but anyone trying to do the same to the left is clearly Racist or Fascist.

It's extremely frustrating, because when both sides are making generalizations, it's really hard to see a way to reconciling differences.
 
Emperor Tippy said:


So even the out of state dead vote in MI this time around. Biden truly is a top tier necromancer to have that kind of range. ;)
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That is utterly shameless, I mean I know they are utterly shameless, but I thought they had a self-preservation instinct that kept them from actually showing their utter lack of shame. I mean come on, this is as obviously out of place as Steven Harper in casual wear.
 
Xilizhra said:
Yes, this is why I don't think that we can achieve full class abolition in the current world, at least not with our current knowledge.
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Agreed. However, I do not believe it is possible in any circumstance involving humanity itself short of the absolute division of human nature from the process of governance.
 
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