'Climate Change' and the coming 'Climate Lockdown'

Doomsought

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Really, long hauling should be done by train. Depot to warehouse to customer should be handled by a truck.
That works great for small European nations and Russia, but not for the United states where you have people spread out over an entire continent. Comparison of the US to Europe is apples to oranges just do to the sheer scale of the United states, it would be more accurate to compare individual states in the US to individual states in Europe.
 

bintananth

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That works great for small European nations and Russia, but not for the United states where you have people spread out over an entire continent. Comparison of the US to Europe is apples to oranges just do to the sheer scale of the United states, it would be more accurate to compare individual states in the US to individual states in Europe.
Russia is even more spread out than the US.

As for European nations? The NYC metro area is larger than Austria. Montana and California are larger than Germany. Texas is larger than France. And then there's Alaska ...
 

Cherico

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That works great for small European nations and Russia, but not for the United states where you have people spread out over an entire continent. Comparison of the US to Europe is apples to oranges just do to the sheer scale of the United states, it would be more accurate to compare individual states in the US to individual states in Europe.

As much shit as people give our rail system what we suck as is passanger rail, for freight we actually have one of the better rail systems in the world because that is what makes fincial sense for us and has for a long time.
 

bintananth

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As much shit as people give our rail system what we suck as is passanger rail, for freight we actually have one of the better rail systems in the world because that is what makes fincial sense for us and has for a long time.
The reason we suck at passenger rail is because it's usually cheaper, faster, and more convenient to drive there or take an airline flight.
 

Marduk

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As much shit as people give our rail system what we suck as is passanger rail, for freight we actually have one of the better rail systems in the world because that is what makes fincial sense for us and has for a long time.
Yeah, its not XIX century, passenger rail generally kinda sucks compared to the current alternatives unless some very complex set of conditions is met or its outright pushed by the government for political reasons.
 

Robovski

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Yeeah, gotta use the flying bus instead of the one on rails when travelling overland... Not like trips under two hours are faster NOT flying because of the security theater. It does mean that we are very reliant on cars for personal transport as public transportation is rarely worth a damn in the US. Also, personally, while I'm not against fuel efficient cars, making people drive en masse to simply work is a waste of petrochemicals. Abundant nuclear energy is a fine answer to this, everyone gets their electrified car, emissions are way down and fueled vehicles can remain for specialized purposes.
 

Cherico

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Yeeah, gotta use the flying bus instead of the one on rails when travelling overland... Not like trips under two hours are faster NOT flying because of the security theater. It does mean that we are very reliant on cars for personal transport as public transportation is rarely worth a damn in the US. Also, personally, while I'm not against fuel efficient cars, making people drive en masse to simply work is a waste of petrochemicals. Abundant nuclear energy is a fine answer to this, everyone gets their electrified car, emissions are way down and fueled vehicles can remain for specialized purposes.

The only problem is that batteries are shit.

Name a cool technology, actual hover boards, cybernetics, lots of stuff its here its available but the problem is battery technology is shit.

The future came and batteries were not included.
 
Arctic ice at 30-year high; the problem with electric cars

DarthOne

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Inconvenient truth for globalists: Arctic ice at 30-year high


The World Economic Forum and the globalist movement it helps lead have used the "climate crisis" and the COVID-19 pandemic as pretexts for measures to redistribute the wealth of nations.

But this week, as WEF convenes is annual conference in Davos, Switzerland, the Arctic sea ice expanse so far this month is at a 30-year high, according to data from intergovernmental European Organization for the Exploitation of Meteorological Satellites, points out climate-change skeptic Tony Heller.

EUMETSAT, as the organization is known, was created through an international convention signed by 30 European nations.

The extent of Arctic ice during the warmer months long has been a metric for climate-change alarmists. In 2007, Al Gore began warning the world that scientists were predicting that by 2013, the Arctic would be ice-free during the summer.

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Last September, Heller noted the Arctic Ocean had gained a record amount of sea ice for that time of year.

"Most years the Arctic loses ice, but this year ice extent has increased" more than 77,000 square miles, he wrote on Twitter, adding the news likely would not be reported by CNN, BBC News or the New York Times.

Meanwhile, the sea melt last summer was the lowest in 15 years, and the expanse of Antarctic sea was well above average.

Last September, amid the increase in Arctic ice, the New York Times reported a number of leading health and medical journals declared climate change "the greatest threat to global public health" and called on governments to respond with the urgency with which they confronted the coronavirus pandemic.

The declarations followed the announcement that the Biden Health and Human Services Department would treat climate change as a public health issue.

The Daily Caller pointed out at the time that governments and public health bodies could invoke emergency authority as they had in response to COVID-19 and enforce drastic measures such as curbing private-vehicle use, consumption of animal products and fossil fuel drilling.

This week, amid charges of ceding U.S. sovereignty to the World Health Organization, 12 of 13 amendments to the International Health Regulations submitted by the Biden administration for a vote in the World Health Assembly in Geneva were removed from consideration.

Among the amendments was a measure that would give the WHO director-general unilateral authority to declare a health emergency in a member nation according to the U.N. agency's broad definition of health as "a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity."

Researchers who published a study in Nature Climate Change in March 2021 were delighted to find that during the 2020 lockdowns, carbon emissions fell by about 2.6 billion metric tons that year. A pandemic-scale lockdown once every two years, they concluded, would produce an equivalent decline in emissions over the long-term.

"If climate activists were allowed, they would take us from COVID lockdowns straight into climate lockdowns," JunkScience.com founder Steve Milloy told the Daily Caller. "Now that they've seen arbitrary lockdowns successfully imposed under the guise of a 'public health emergency,' they can’t wait for federal, state and local declarations of a climate emergency to achieve the same sort of dominance over us."



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The U.S. only has power capacity for 24M EVs, and only 20% of that comes from renewable energy. EVs destroy the planet by ripping it up for rare earth elements using gas-guzzling mining equipment. EVs cause more CO2 emission than conventional.
 

TheRomanSlayer

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I wonder what the hell is going on in the minds of those fools who thought EVs are the future, since it would require a lot more mining, which would also destroy the ecological system of this planet. So much for being environmentally friendly. If I had to choose between more carbon emissions on one side, and a destroyed ecological system for EV production on the other, I’d rather choose moar carbon emissions. At the very least, we won’t have a huge electricity bill to pay.
 

Cherico

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I wonder what the hell is going on in the minds of those fools who thought EVs are the future, since it would require a lot more mining, which would also destroy the ecological system of this planet. So much for being environmentally friendly. If I had to choose between more carbon emissions on one side, and a destroyed ecological system for EV production on the other, I’d rather choose moar carbon emissions. At the very least, we won’t have a huge electricity bill to pay.

Your assuming there is thought involved there really isn't.
 

Scottty

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I wonder what the hell is going on in the minds of those fools who thought EVs are the future, since it would require a lot more mining, which would also destroy the ecological system of this planet. So much for being environmentally friendly. If I had to choose between more carbon emissions on one side, and a destroyed ecological system for EV production on the other, I’d rather choose moar carbon emissions. At the very least, we won’t have a huge electricity bill to pay.

Carbon Dioxide is plant food - and the biosphere actually needs a bit more of it in the atmosphere than the current low level. Anyone who really wants to care about "the environment" should really be doing something about plastic waste.
 

Simonbob

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Carbon Dioxide is plant food - and the biosphere actually needs a bit more of it in the atmosphere than the current low level. Anyone who really wants to care about "the environment" should really be doing something about plastic waste.

Or otherwise dealing with more local issues. After working out what's really happening, and looking for a real way to help.

That's why I have zero respect for "Enviromentalists". I've met very, very few who were actively making things better in any way.
 

Cherico

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Or otherwise dealing with more local issues. After working out what's really happening, and looking for a real way to help.

That's why I have zero respect for "Enviromentalists". I've met very, very few who were actively making things better in any way.

there is a different between trying to help and being a smug morally superior asshole and you know the difference.
 

Simonbob

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Now that I'm thinking about it, you guys have been, as well.

You might not have known, but a lot of the costs in all sorts of things, are the result of "Green" policies, and pretty close to all of them have little to no real envromental advantages, and even the ones who do usually cost more than they're worth.

I mean, little things like solar panels that creation of is heavly polluting, little things like "Protecting" forests by locking them up does nothing to stop invasive animals and plants, and a general willingness to impose all sorts of restrictions in your nation, while ignoring the lack of in the nation that they, and often you, get all your stuff from.


Fucking Greens.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
I wonder what the hell is going on in the minds of those fools who thought EVs are the future, since it would require a lot more mining, which would also destroy the ecological system of this planet. So much for being environmentally friendly. If I had to choose between more carbon emissions on one side, and a destroyed ecological system for EV production on the other, I’d rather choose moar carbon emissions. At the very least, we won’t have a huge electricity bill to pay.
That's just it - the majority of them don't think. They can't see beyond what the end product is, so all they see is whether the car has exhaust coming out of it or not. They see electric cars don't and assume they are "clean" and good for the environment, because if they lend any thought to how the electricity for them is produced, they'll fantasize it was done with some other "clean" method like wind or solar power. And of course they don't ever stop to consider how things are made as far as batteries or solar panels, or windmills, or what will happen to them when they wear out and get thrown away. All they care about is "electric good, gas bad," and feeling better than other people who don't drive electric cars. A lot of these idiots are from the city, too, and don't depend on being able to drive a car to get to work or get groceries or anything else they might need, which is why they also don't have to worry about how expensive electric cars are.
 

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