'Climate Change' and the coming 'Climate Lockdown'

[Cherico]

Now that I'm thinking about it, you guys have been, as well.

You might not have known, but a lot of the costs in all sorts of things, are the result of "Green" policies, and pretty close to all of them have little to no real envromental advantages, and even the ones who do usually cost more than they're worth.

I mean, little things like solar panels that creation of is heavly polluting, little things like "Protecting" forests by locking them up does nothing to stop invasive animals and plants, and a general willingness to impose all sorts of restrictions in your nation, while ignoring the lack of in the nation that they, and often you, get all your stuff from.


Fucking Greens.

Renewables are limited by geography.

Everything in blue great for wind power, every thing in green great for solar, if its dark blue its good for both. The fact is solar is improving as a means to create energy and wind is decent enough at providing auxulry power. But if your truely serious about cutting emessions then nuclear is the way to go.

 

[Marduk]

Renewables are limited by geography.

Everything in blue great for wind power, every thing in green great for solar, if its dark blue its good for both. The fact is solar is improving as a means to create energy and wind is decent enough at providing auxulry power. But if your truely serious about cutting emessions then nuclear is the way to go.

On top of that, its interesting to look at that map and compare it with population density, the circle is barely a start. Its one thing if a certain small population has a large area of even mediocre land for use with renewables, at least if they can afford it. But a sufficiently dense and industrialized population in a relatively small, even if good area simply cannot power itself off renewables. Wind and sun don't care how many people live in your region, they can provide the same amount of energy, resulting in different energy budget per person, business etc. In summary, renewables are a niche technology that's nice for third world countries with poor infrastructure (something renewables avoid consequences of to a degree) and low energy needs, elevated into a grift with massive artificial demand thanks to green policies in rich countries creating said demand by legal decree.

 

[Agent23]

Hopefully this winter Western Europe and the UK freeze to death and the Greens turn into unelectable pariahs.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Bad news everyone,

'We Have' 1028 days left' meaning as protester stops French Open

What does 'We Have 1028 days left' mean as the French Open semi-final was disrupted by a protester? Which group has claimed responsibility?

www.hitc.com

By my calcs, this indicates the world is going to end on March 27, 2025. So I'm definitely hitting the Rum stash soon, though I'm going to save some for 2025 because I don't want to go through the end sober.

The only good side to knowing the exact day the world will end from climate change is that if, somehow, we survive the question will surely be settled and after March 27, 2025, we'll never ever hear another date from the climate change industry, they'll surely admit it was all a mistake and disband.

 

[Typhonis]

I thought the world was going to end on December 21st, 2012?

 

[Bear Ribs]

I thought the world was going to end on December 21st, 2012?

That was the Mayan Calendar, totally unrelated to Enviro-pocalypse predictions, which have been totally true so far and it is morally wrong to criticize them.

 

[Prince Ire]

Most of Russia is uninhabited, there are few enough places were people actually live that rial lines work for them.

While the bulk of Russia's population does live in European Russia, European Russia is still a fairly big place and Siberia still has a similar population to Canada.

 

[Sailor.X]

Also the left's framing and prioritization of issues can be wrong. See: the abovementioned foreign countries problem regarding all environmental issues of globally distributed nature.
The left is more than enthusiastic about turning such issues into self-flagellation initiatives, virtue signalling opportunities and thinly veiled global wealth redistribution programs.
If the right is to have any sensible place in debate about such issues, it still can't have any of that shit, rather than just picking which poison is least bad and acting moderate about the dosage.

Again, yet another case of "doesn't matter if USA does something about it, in the global scale of things". Brazil alone accounts for more than double of US cattle, and a lot of that probably gets imported to USA anyway.

What would be far more impactful if someone changed what India, South America and Africa feed their cattle, for which the agricultural, economic and political calculus is very different.

If this was profitable on its own merits, people would be doing that already.
The right has no appetite to play even more silly subsidy games.

Cattle numbers are tiny compared to the number of Chickens that exist.

Number of Chickens in the U.S. and Chicken Production by State

The number of chickens in the U.S. is growing, and chicken production has even overtaken pig farming to become the top source of meat worldwide. Find out why.

sentientmedia.org

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Chickens number in the double digit Billions.

 

[ATP]

I thought the world was going to end on December 21st, 2012?

According to mayans.According to jews who knew secret books,2006.And according to enviro-idiots,we shoud be dead few times arleady.

 

[Doomsought]

Chickens are one of the most nutrient efficient sources of meat, second only to fish.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

Chickens are one of the most nutrient efficient sources of meat, second only to fish.

No wonder the Hound loves his chickens. He can get a lot of nutrients in it.

That being aside, why isn’t there a push for the consumption of other sea mammals like shark and whale? I’m guessing it’s because of the difficult process in making sure they extract the mercury from them.

 

[Sailor.X]

Chickens are one of the most nutrient efficient sources of meat, second only to fish.

Which is why the push to get people to eat bugs makes not a got damn lick of sense. Chickens can feed more people over and over again. Eggs alone can keep you going a long time.

 

[Scottty]

Which is why the push to get people to eat bugs makes not a got damn lick of sense. Chickens can feed more people over and over again. Eggs alone can keep you going a long time.

Yes, but the concept of eating chicken isn't repulsive to normal people in the West like the idea of eating bugs is. For the narcissistic Lefty-crazies pushing bug-eating, going against societal norms is the point.

 

[Cherico]

Yes, but the concept of eating chicken isn't repulsive to normal people in the West like the idea of eating bugs is. For the narcissistic Lefty-crazies pushing bug-eating, going against societal norms is the point.

control freaks by and by are just assholes.

Its not about the enviornment ok? Its not about making the world a better place, its not about manners its about excersizing power over other people.

Control freaks lie about their motives and they gaslight people, and act like self rightous assholes. Yes we could all eat chicken but making other people suffer is their fucking point.

 

[Marduk]

No wonder the Hound loves his chickens. He can get a lot of nutrients in it.

That being aside, why isn’t there a push for the consumption of other sea mammals like shark and whale? I’m guessing it’s because of the difficult process in making sure they extract the mercury from them.

Because there are very few of them anyway relative to the demand, not to mention the typical green activist would get a heart attack at the idea even if there were many.

 

[Bear Ribs]

No wonder the Hound loves his chickens. He can get a lot of nutrients in it.

That being aside, why isn’t there a push for the consumption of other sea mammals like shark and whale? I’m guessing it’s because of the difficult process in making sure they extract the mercury from them.

There is outside the US, China loves them some shark and Japan eats a lot of whale and dolphin.

In general, megafauna is simply less efficient though, eating the smaller fish generates a lot more nutrition than feeding them to bigger fish and eating those. This is aside from how much more difficult it is to catch and process something weighing several tons instead of several pounds.

control freaks by and by are just assholes.

Its not about the enviornment ok? Its not about making the world a better place, its not about manners its about excersizing power over other people.

Control freaks lie about their motives and they gaslight people, and act like self rightous assholes. Yes we could all eat chicken but making other people suffer is their fucking point.

I think it's more like a replacement religion for those people. They can't accept any reasonable and easy option even if available, it has to be the strenuous and difficult option because otherwise you're clearly not trying hard enough to escape the original sin of carbon and the path to salvation isn't easy. There has to be a sacrifice, there has to be that self-inflicted pain to attain atonement. It's become a form of self-flagellation rather than what they claim it's about.

The difference, of course, is that religion proscribes quick and easy solutions that are worse in the long term, while enviroreligion proscribes quick and easy solutions that are also beneficial in the long term.

It's quite interesting to me to see the wide range of "I can't believe it's not religion" atheists create for themselves to fill the void. The most obvious and ludicrous is probably Eliezer Yudkowsky's technotheology that comes complete with a robot god, divine eternal rewards for the faithful, and an infernal punishment for people who didn't make enough sacrifices in this life to bring the future messianic god AI into existence (plus bonus corrupt clergy since all contributions to avoid future punishment need to be given the Eliezer Yudkowsky). But you honestly see imitation religious faith all over the place in groups that have rejected religion and tried to replace it with philosophy, they inevitably manage to simply reinvent religion with the serial numbers filed off.

 

[Cherico]

There is outside the US, China loves them some shark and Japan eats a lot of whale and dolphin.

In general, megafauna is simply less efficient though, eating the smaller fish generates a lot more nutrition than feeding them to bigger fish and eating those. This is aside from how much more difficult it is to catch and process something weighing several tons instead of several pounds.

I think it's more like a replacement religion for those people. They can't accept any reasonable and easy option even if available, it has to be the strenuous and difficult option because otherwise you're clearly not trying hard enough to escape the original sin of carbon and the path to salvation isn't easy. It's become a form of self-flagellation and an atonement rather than what they claim it's about.

The difference, of course, is that religion proscribes quick and easy solutions that are worse in the long term, while enviroreligion proscribes quick and easy solutions that are also beneficial in the long term.

It's quite interesting to me to see the wide range of "I can't believe it's not religion" atheists create for themselves to fill the void. The most obvious and ludicrous is probably Eliezer Yudkowsky's technotheology that comes complete with a robot god, divine eternal rewards for the faithful, and an infernal punishment for people who didn't make enough sacrifices in this life to bring the future messianic god AI into existence (plus bonus corrupt clergy since all contributions to avoid future punishment need to be given the Eliezer Yudkowsky). But you honestly see imitation religious faith all over the place in groups that have rejected religion and tried to replace it with philosophy, they inevitably manage to simply reinvent religion with the serial numbers filed off.

honestly they would all be better off picking an actual religion, and we would be better off as well because most tradtional relgions have some way to curb bad behavior.

 

[ATP]

honestly they would all be better off picking an actual religion, and we would be better off as well because most tradtional relgions have some way to curb bad behavior.

And that is why leftist elites prefer new religions,like lgbt or enviromentalists.Becouse they do not want curb bad behaviour.
Or - they could really be satanists.That would explain everything.

 

[Simonbob]

The difference, of course, is that religion proscribes quick and easy solutions that are worse in the long term, while enviroreligion proscribes quick and easy solutions that are also beneficial in the long term.

Except enviroreligion pretty much never makes things better. They don't suggest long term goods, not even close.

 

[Morphic Tide]

Except enviroreligion pretty much never makes things better. They don't suggest long term goods, not even close.

"Proscribe", which they used, means to forbid, "Prescribe" means to demand.