China is Preparing for war with the West

VictortheMonarch

Victor the Crusader

This article was released on a State Run Media run by the CCP. To sum it up for those who don't understand Mandarin, it's pretty much saying that China is the subject of biological warfare by Americans and how America made the Coronavirus and Chinese citizens should prepare for war.
 

Val the Moofia Boss

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I can't see China going to war with anybody, not even Japan or Taiwan or South Korea. All it takes is just one missile to hit the Three Gorges Dam and China's done. The mass famine and the destruction of infrastructure will make it physically impossible for their logistics chain to feed their armies conducting a foreign occupation. China would be way worse off than they started and they will have been set back decades.
 

Zachowon

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I can't see China going to war with anybody, not even Japan or Taiwan or South Korea. All it takes is just one missile to hit the Three Gorges Dam and China's done. The mass famine and the destruction of infrastructure will make it physically impossible for their logistics chain to feed their armies conducting a foreign occupation. China would be way worse off than they started.
The dam would most likely be protected as they know it is a military target.
 

Bassoe

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Yes, we've already heard about the crippling vulnerability of the Three Gorges Dam. None of that changes the fact, that in an actual fight, we're equally vulnerable on account of nuclear weapons and having all our Made In China™ infrastructure almost certainly riddled with backdoor killswitches. Fortunately, baring suicidal stupidity on the part of one or both countries' leadership, they can't use those weaknesses against us any more than we can use their weaknesses against them.
 

Cherico

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Yes, we've already heard about the crippling vulnerability of the Three Gorges Dam. None of that changes the fact, that in an actual fight, we're equally vulnerable on account of nuclear weapons and having all our Made In China™ infrastructure almost certainly riddled with backdoor killswitches. Fortunately, baring suicidal stupidity on the part of one or both countries' leadership, they can't use those weaknesses against us any more than we can use their weaknesses against them.


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once again we need to look at a map.

China is not self sufficient in oil the united state as of now is.

China must buy its oil from the middle east in order for their industry, agerculture ect to work.

A chinese tanker must first go past the first island chain, Taiwain, Japan the Philipines all of these islands are hostle to them, then they must sail past the straits which is a natural choke point and ambush point, from there they must sail past india a great power that is incredibly pissed at china, then after that they must go to the middle east pick a side in a centuries long knife fight get the oil and make that trip back.

During peace time that is easy, during war well it does not take a lot to cut china off from that oil. Japan alone is fully capable of doing that, a grand alliance of all the people china pissed off? Yeah not going to have a good time.
 

VictortheMonarch

Victor the Crusader
I'm not saying China could win, but that thanks to nuclear MAD, neither could we.
I wouldn't say that. If China were to declare war on us, military conflict would likely spring up with India being opportunistic, or Russia in the same stream. The Russians would never say no to to a free port city.

Also, you're forgetting the Europeans, who predominantly are in the NATO faction, with the exception of Russia, Belarus and the Ukrainian Rebels, who are in the CSTO. It wouldn't be impossible for them to reach china. Though they would likely be preoccupied with Ethiopia and the like, as many African nations have allied with China.

Likely however it would be a long drawn out war, WWI on a much larger scale. We could indeed strike the Three Gorges Dam, but we would likely have to expend resources to get past their Anti-Air that's obviously in the area. Besides that, the Left would definitely be problematic in America, a strike on the Three Gorges Dam would kill a lot of civilians, and the left hates such actions. The Humanitarian crisis in China would gain sympathy, so turncoats would definitely be a problem in the govt.

A Chinese War would likely last anywhere from six to seventeen years, and the communist would likely be a problem for the successor states.
 

Bassoe

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Missing my point, that as soon as one side starts losing the conventional war, they'll either create a stalemate by threatening to go nuclear in which case every life and dollar lost in the conventional war was pointless or actually go nuclear in which case we get a firsthand demonstration of the fermi paradox. Therefore, seeing the war as a choice between a massive waste of lives and money as the best case scenario and the apocalypse as the worst case, I assume fighting it in the first place is pointless.
 

VictortheMonarch

Victor the Crusader
Missing my point, that as soon as one side starts losing the conventional war, they'll either create a stalemate by threatening to go nuclear in which case every life and dollar lost in the conventional war was pointless or actually go nuclear in which case we get a firsthand demonstration of the fermi paradox. Therefore, seeing the war as a choice between a massive waste of lives and money as the best case scenario and the apocalypse as the worst case, I assume fighting it in the first place is pointless.
I doubt America would threaten nuclear war. China would definitely do it, but the Anti-Air that we have is so great that it's likely any ICBM would be shot out of the sky before it even reaches the coast. and we damn well know that during a war with China, we'll be watching them like hawks.
 

Husky_Khan

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This article was released on a State Run Media run by the CCP. To sum it up for those who don't understand Mandarin, it's pretty much saying that China is the subject of biological warfare by Americans and how America made the Coronavirus and Chinese citizens should prepare for war.

Nice work on releasing that biological weapon America. We really got those ChiComs this time! (y)
 

King Arts

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I doubt America would threaten nuclear war. China would definitely do it, but the Anti-Air that we have is so great that it's likely any ICBM would be shot out of the sky before it even reaches the coast. and we damn well know that during a war with China, we'll be watching them like hawks.
America PROBABLY won’t threaten nukes. Cause the war won’t be fought for important American homeland interests but the empire instead. The war in the pacific would be Chinas back yard so if they are worried their people will starve or the there will be a land invasion in China proper then they’d launch the nukes just like we would if Alaska or Hawaii was threatened. Also you are being very optimistic about anti ballistic mussels when they’ve never been tested in real life, and if they were that effective we wouldn’t care about Iran or others going for nukes.

Nukes wont happen.
It will all be focused on Taiwan
So a limited war yes that makes sense. Whichever side loses won’t keep going till the nukes fly. As long as both sides are smart.
 

Zachowon

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America PROBABLY won’t threaten nukes. Cause the war won’t be fought for important American homeland interests but the empire instead. The war in the pacific would be Chinas back yard so if they are worried their people will starve or the there will be a land invasion in China proper then they’d launch the nukes just like we would if Alaska or Hawaii was threatened. Also you are being very optimistic about anti ballistic mussels when they’ve never been tested in real life, and if they were that effective we wouldn’t care about Iran or others going for nukes.


So a limited war yes that makes sense. Whichever side loses won’t keep going till the nukes fly. As long as both sides are smart.
It will be a war over Taiwan
 

LordsFire

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Missing my point, that as soon as one side starts losing the conventional war, they'll either create a stalemate by threatening to go nuclear in which case every life and dollar lost in the conventional war was pointless or actually go nuclear in which case we get a firsthand demonstration of the fermi paradox. Therefore, seeing the war as a choice between a massive waste of lives and money as the best case scenario and the apocalypse as the worst case, I assume fighting it in the first place is pointless.

You're forgetting that there is a long, long history of proxy and semi-proxy wars over the last hundred years.

If China invades Taiwan (the only vaguely feasible flashpoint), and start getting their asses kicked, then they have two options:

1. Accept the loss, and survive as a nation.
2. Go nuclear, and stop existing as a nation.

Keep in mind, the number of nuclear weapons they have that can even reach the USA is extremely limited, something like 2-3 dozen, and after you account for communist industrial technology failure and every damn interceptor the USA can throw at those missiles, maybe half that will hit. Most likely all along the western seaboard, possibly Washington and NY taking hits, though with the sheer amount of defensive depth available there, that's unlikely.

The US would be hurt, but in exchange, China could be taking hundreds of nuclear hits from us. Any nuclear exchange that they start, will by definition be a losing one for them.

That doesn't mean it's impossible they'll actually do so, just that it is the madness option.
 

VictortheMonarch

Victor the Crusader
America PROBABLY won’t threaten nukes. Cause the war won’t be fought for important American homeland interests but the empire instead. The war in the pacific would be Chinas back yard so if they are worried their people will starve or the there will be a land invasion in China proper then they’d launch the nukes just like we would if Alaska or Hawaii was threatened. Also you are being very optimistic about anti ballistic mussels when they’ve never been tested in real life, and if they were that effective we wouldn’t care about Iran or others going for nukes.


So a limited war yes that makes sense. Whichever side loses won’t keep going till the nukes fly. As long as both sides are smart.

Obviously it will be a war over Taiwan, but depending on if the Dems stay in power, or the Republicans regain their seats, we could see an actual invasion of China, that is if we could breach the Chinese navy. (of which if we sent all our ships there, I have no doubt we could.) Any actual war would have devastating consequence with a death toll into the hundreds of millions if such a invasion were to take place.
 

Zachowon

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Obviously it will be a war over Taiwan, but depending on if the Dems stay in power, or the Republicans regain their seats, we could see an actual invasion of China, that is if we could breach the Chinese navy. (of which if we sent all our ships there, I have no doubt we could.) Any actual war would have devastating consequence with a death toll into the hundreds of millions if such a invasion were to take place.
We don't need our full navy...
 

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