Typhonis
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If you know where to look you can find all sorts of secrets online. Like the Colonels 11 herbs and spices."But, but I have to prove some guy on the Internet wrong!"
China ChiCom News Thread
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Sure. But then they should be ready for a firing squad. Jackass posted the Sidewinder's technical specs and blueprints to prove the game version was wrong and making the less capable Russian equivalent too op in comparison"But, but I have to prove some guy on the Internet wrong!"
After 80 years and testing they identified those in the early 2000s the ratios are where the secret is at and to use lard to fry the chicken.
Welfare given by states is still welfare.
Even in federal budget, defense is barely tenth, yet you and many others repeat the malevolent leftist lies that it's some massive part that's bankrupting the country.
Islamists, right fucking now, are trying to terrorize some of world's most important trade routes.
Cease with the red herrings.
"Lol they can't conquer us so we have to leave them alone, please ignore all the low level warfare and raiding they do".
China probably lies about their spending, and a lot less of it goes to salaries and scams like the green fuel thing. Even if not, being equal to the enemy is not something anyone sane should aim at, minimum 3x superiority is something to aim for. Otherwise the result of any war would be uncertain and costly, and on that account alone surrender monkeys will come out with their screeching.
And i'd bet a lot of the loudest screeching ones will be the same people who wanted a lower defense budget.
True, you need 1.600 trillion army. If it was a good idea to lower defense spending leftists would not be spending a tenth of the effort they do in pushing it over last half century.
No, other developed countries are even worse in terms of bang for the buck. The problem is that a Chinese soldier gets paid hardly anything compared to a western minimum wage worker even, and same goes for Chinese workers in military equipment factories.
You need to be able to fight China, Russia and friends club at the same time, you do not outmass them, and you out-tech them by few decades, that's the reality. People who have no idea about these things and have an axe they are fanatical about grinding, like leftists and isolationists, cannot change that with their wishful thinking.
It has nothing to do with neocon red herring you and leftists love. They have low end stealth fighters already, hence, one generation behind. It's not a lead that can be kept with reduced military spending, many question if it won't slowly close without increasing it.
True, you need double that for comfort.
Yes, reaching out and touching desert barbarians on another continent costs a lot.
@King Arts the US maintains a fleet of 11 air craft carriers and the largest af in the world.
Do you know why?
Because we made sure that we are in a position that benefits us economicly. Thr world uses our currency as the main trade currency.
Do you know what helps keep that there? The capability to project our forces to fight anywhere, anytime, we execute. Capable of destroying threats to us or our allies quickly.
But lowering that funding just makes us more un prepared. China is increasing thier money, and have more man power then we do.
What do we have? The most advanced and powerful military.
The DoD is one of the largest employers in the world.
The military is more important then damn near everything else. If we stop even fir a second our adversaries will take advantage of it.
Carter is a point about that. He started to downsize us some and it put us behind the soviets...
Do you know why?
Because we made sure that we are in a position that benefits us economicly. Thr world uses our currency as the main trade currency.
Do you know what helps keep that there? The capability to project our forces to fight anywhere, anytime, we execute. Capable of destroying threats to us or our allies quickly.
But lowering that funding just makes us more un prepared. China is increasing thier money, and have more man power then we do.
What do we have? The most advanced and powerful military.
The DoD is one of the largest employers in the world.
The military is more important then damn near everything else. If we stop even fir a second our adversaries will take advantage of it.
Carter is a point about that. He started to downsize us some and it put us behind the soviets...
The ability to deploy a division of troops anywhere in the world within 72 hours. The first battalion arriving in 24 hours with the rest landing within 48 hours of the first arrivals securing the area for the seabees to build a beachhead. I love the logistics involved.
As to the pirates. Burn them out. Hostis Humanis Generis.
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Include slavers in that too.
That's a given
As long as that definition includes 'human traffickers'.
Please don't try to go down that argument route, it will only hurt what funding the military has and hurt recruitment.
I cannot think of anything that will induce spite among civies towards the US military more than more hollow attempts to place the military's importance above the rest of the nation's needs or wants, instead of along side.
The military feeling of being more important than civies, when it civies who actually make up the vast majority of the nation you serve and are the ones who make the decisions about troop benefit packages via Congress, is towards feeling like it's biting the hand that feeds.
You want the VA to not be shit, you yourself said nothing the DoD can do about that, so it's up to civies to do the advocating.
When the military shits on the people who can actually get shit fixed for them, kinda counter-productive, don't you think?
And you remember what happened to Veitnam vets because of their leadership's pride, ego, and the military's bad image back home because of how many generals and admiral wanted to keep fighting a war the public did not want.
You want that for when you get out of service?
The US military needs to learn to stop biting the hands that feed out of pride and ego; the US public doesn't worship the uniform anymore, like it did for a while after WW2, and the military cannot take the US public's 'non-security concerns' for granted anymore.
The reason for eh hatred as soldiers came home was due to the media making it the first war the public could actually watch and see. The media helped tear down anything the military had as "its war" ROEs got stricter cause of it and more soldiers died because of civilians pearl clutching.
There is a divide that needs to be understood Bacle. Let the military war and let the politicians and civilians worry about the aftermath.
Yes the president is the commander and chief and is a civilian, but the SECDEF is often if not always a vet for a reason. To make sure the military cab do its job.
No matter how open or public the military and the DoD are, we will always be a punching bag for ignorant civilians. Why do you think most vets have a connection with each other and those they served with more then most.
The military is needed more then 90% of social programs. The military is needed more then damn near everything.
Yes there are things mire important, like border security and fixing our economy.
But trying to go all "This is the reason why shit is for the military because of how we see civilians."
Civilians are the reason we didn't take grounding Vietnam. Civilians are the reason we had such horrible ROE in the ME...
If civilians really want to have the military be more open, stop thinking you know what it is we can and can't do, and making us lose lives die to civilians not understanding war
We should not have been in Veitnam to begin with, and the public was finally made aware what was being done 'in their name', yet without their approval.
No, because that is how the military fucks things up for the civies back home and starts to think of itself as better than/more important than the civies.
Civilian oversight of the military is part of the bedrock of this nation for damn good reason, and the military could never 'win the peace' with the mindset you espouse.
War's goals for 'victory' are also determined by the civies, not the military.
I've met plenty of vets who did not like the DoD at all anymore, and who often advise against going into the military.
Not every person who goes into uniform becomes a motard like you, and not every person who goes in does so because they want to go to war, like you do.
No, not more than 90%, and the military is needed along side 90% of those social programs.
Stop trying to put the US military as above the US civies in importance, it will only make things worse.
You exist alongside, not above, civies.
Never should have been in Veitnam to begin with, as I have said before.
Yes, because amazingly the US public doesn't want to generally let the military do what wants without oversight and the ability to rein them in.
Like, the only thing looser ROE's would have done is ended up with more shit like that aid worker Biden mistakenly airstrikes leaving A-stan or more Blackwater massacres.
What the US military can and cannot do is dictated by the civilian government and Congress for a damn good reason.
Stop treating the military as if it should be a self-contained entity and nation unto itself, because it will never happen and it will breed bad will towards the military.
Civilians control the military, not the other way around.
Also, we do understand war; you know the phrase 'War is diplomacy via other means.' Outside of direct, existential threats, much of the US public would prefer to avoid combat operations, and have influenced Congress in this regard.
DarthOne
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I believe what you want amounts to a military dictatorship with the veneer of respectability draped over it like a tablecloth that’s too small.
But..Machomet was slaver,you knew! what about muslim feelings?
Jokes aside - i agree.
DarthOne
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How about no.