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Bacle

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OK, yep, they've been bought and paid for by the CCP.
Very much seems like it.

Though with the Dems already under the CCPs influence, I guess that means the CCP effectively own 2 of 3 'main' parties in the US already.

Though credit to the Dems, even they are not dumb enough to say the Uyghur genocide is fake, even as they work with Xi/the CCP.
 

Sailor.X

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Very much seems like it.

Though with the Dems already under the CCPs influence, I guess that means the CCP effectively own 2 of 3 'main' parties in the US already.

Though credit to the Dems, even they are not dumb enough to say the Uyghur genocide is fake, even as they work with Xi/the CCP.
Yep they have gone full Wumao. I hope the members who have common sense will just migrate to the Constitution Party.
 

King Arts

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OK, yep, they've been bought and paid for by the CCP.
This is something I dislike about the modern day Republican party. If someone is not on board with the foreign policy goals of the party they say "Oh your bought by the CCP!"

It's stupid, people can have very good reasons for not wanting the US to seek conflict with China or Russia, or Iran, or any other nation. While the saying that the Chinese aren't oppressing the Uighers is dumb. They obviously are, ironically they do the very same things that many neo cons were jerking off about wanting to do to Muslims back in the Bush era.

What is not wrong however is the statement that China is not a threat to our freedoms in the US.
 

Zachowon

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Yeah, it's not a one time, one place thing; the Libertarian Party across the US seems to think the Uyghur genocide is fake and just made up to make people hate the CCP.


This is something I dislike about the modern day Republican party. If someone is not on board with the foreign policy goals of the party they say "Oh your bought by the CCP!"

It's stupid, people can have very good reasons for not wanting the US to seek conflict with China or Russia, or Iran, or any other nation. While the saying that the Chinese aren't oppressing the Uighers is dumb. They obviously are, ironically they do the very same things that many neo cons were jerking off about wanting to do to Muslims back in the Bush era.

What is not wrong however is the statement that China is not a threat to our freedoms in the US.
Except China literally is...
It effectively controls the largest social media platform in existence.
It has its fingers in damn near every thing.
Is responsible for a lot of the goods we as US citizens own.
Does not care about US government laws. Will and has been actively spying on US citizens and can nit be stopped by the US Government in the sense that we have laws prohibiting it.
Has control over the largest population in the world and can basically dictate what Hollywood and our entertainment makes.
Has the money to basically buy every single company in the US for the most part, or has part on them.

And absolutely hates us and is teaching it's population that we are the big bad and that one day they will own us or kill us all.
 

The Whispering Monk

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If someone is not on board with the foreign policy goals of the party they say "Oh your bought by the CCP!"
Has nothing to do with them NOT embracing my ideas of proper foreign policy.
What is not wrong however is the statement that China is not a threat to our freedoms in the US.
China/CCP is absolutely a threat to our freedoms.
 

Abhorsen

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A new low for the Libertarian Party; running cover for Uyghur genocide and claiming it's all 'Fake and Gay'.

@zach: Your explanation.

A) the messaging strat of the LPNH in particular is to be as offensive/trolling as possible because any attention LP attention is good attention. This isn't even their craziest tweet. Nuanced takes do jack shit, in their opinion. They post a picture of Meghan McCain crying over her dad's coffin with happy holidays:



B) There isn't a mass killing, so they don't consider it a genocide. Dumb, but they are consistent on it.

C) Putin also sucks, according to them. But being antiwar means being antifunding wars, including Ukraine, because it's an endless corrupt money sink of an industry (MIC) being poured into a corrupt endless money sink of a country.

As for the CCP being a threat to our freedoms, it is, but orders of magnitudes less than the US Government, which has been actively quashing and stomping on our freedoms continuously since Calvin Coolidge, the last president who didn't deserve a life sentence IMO.
 
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Zachowon

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@zach: Your explanation.

A) the messaging strat of the LPNH in particular is to be as offensive/trolling as possible because any attention LP attention is good attention. This isn't even their craziest tweet. Nuanced takes do jack shit, in their opinion. They post a picture of Meghan McCain crying over her dad's coffin with happy holidays:



B) There isn't a mass killing, so they don't consider it a genocide. Dumb, but they are consistent on it.

C) Putin also sucks, according to them. But being antiwar means being antifunding wars, including Ukraine, because it's an endless corrupt money sink of an industry (MIC) being poured into a corrupt endless money sink of a country.

As for the CCP being a threat to our freedoms, it is, but orders of magnitudes less than the US Government, which has been actively quashing and stomping on our freedoms continuously since Calvin Coolidge, the last president who didn't deserve a life sentence IMO.

Ah so pull the old "troll" move
 

Abhorsen

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Ah so pull the old "troll" move
... I mean, that's literally what LPNH twitter account does. Constantly. They constantly troll, then double down on their trolling, because they don't want to convince people to become libertarians. They want to convince libertarians to move to NH.

Note, I'm not saying they don't believe what they say (they do). They just say it in the most garish way possible to offend. And yes, you in particular, given your boot sucking (you've gone well past licking), are someone they'd love to know they offended.
 

Bacle

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... I mean, that's literally what LPNH twitter account does. Constantly. They constantly troll, then double down on their trolling, because they don't want to convince people to become libertarians. They want to convince libertarians to move to NH.

Note, I'm not saying they don't believe what they say (they do). They just say it in the most garish way possible to offend. And yes, you in particular, given your boot sucking (you've gone well past licking), are someone they'd love to know they offended.
Ah, so the LPNH are being international scale fucktards for local scale power some time in the indeterminate future, and sabotaging the image of the Libertarian Party nationwide because they are deluded about their own importance as anything but clowns.

That is what they seem like, edgy clowns and fools who cannot see beyond their own local power struggle, and have the usually moronic the on foreign affairs and international events I've come to expect of the Libertarian party.
 

Abhorsen

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Ah, so the LPNH are being international scale fucktards for local scale power some time in the indeterminate future, and sabotaging the image of the Libertarian Party nationwide because they are deluded about their own importance as anything but clowns.

That is what they seem like, edgy clowns and fools who cannot see beyond their own local power struggle, and have the usually moronic the on foreign affairs and international events I've come to expect of the Libertarian party.
Sure man, sure. Keep thinking that. Meanwhile the libertarians (note the lowercase l) control the NH statehouse. The majority leader is a Rothbardian. The goal of the NHLP is intertwined with the Free State Project, and it works really well, and has made NH the freest state in the Union.

In short, when the local NeoCon and NeoLib hate what you are doing, chances are it's a good idea.
 

Bacle

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Sure man, sure. Keep thinking that. Meanwhile the libertarians (note the lowercase l) control the NH statehouse. The majority leader is a Rothbardian. The goal of the NHLP is intertwined with the Free State Project, and it works really well, and has made NH the freest state in the Union.

In short, when the local NeoCon and NeoLib hate what you are doing, chances are it's a good idea.
That's sounds real convincing coming from the party who wants to pretend the Uyghur genocide isn't happening, just for troll points.
 

Zachowon

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... I mean, that's literally what LPNH twitter account does. Constantly. They constantly troll, then double down on their trolling, because they don't want to convince people to become libertarians. They want to convince libertarians to move to NH.

Note, I'm not saying they don't believe what they say (they do). They just say it in the most garish way possible to offend. And yes, you in particular, given your boot sucking (you've gone well past licking), are someone they'd love to know they offended.
I mean the LPG also posted one so.

But I defend what is mandatory for my job. Because I actually know it unlike majority of the people here
 

King Arts

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Except China literally is...
It effectively controls the largest social media platform in existence.
It has its fingers in damn near every thing.
Facebook? They don't directly own it.
Is responsible for a lot of the goods we as US citizens own.
Yes, that is the whole point of capitalism, they are a large country and we decided to have our bussinesses build factories there.

Does not care about US government laws. Will and has been actively spying on US citizens and can nit be stopped by the US Government in the sense that we have laws prohibiting it.
Why would any foreign nation that is not a puppet care about US laws? Oh and funny you talk about spying on US citizens, obviously while not great you know who else does? Why apparently our great allies in the Anglo Saxon five eyes program. I guess it's ok to indirectly violate American's constitutional rights if you are helping the Washington world empire.

Has control over the largest population in the world and can basically dictate what Hollywood and our entertainment makes.
Yes the Chinese have the largest population in the world they have had that for most of history. And no they don't dictate what our entertainment makes, in America you are free to make anti CCP movies, hell you are free to make Anti China movies hell you can make it racist too if you want. It's not the Chinese who are manipulating our entertainment. It's not a foreign power.

Has the money to basically buy every single company in the US for the most part, or has part on them.

And absolutely hates us and is teaching it's population that we are the big bad and that one day they will own us or kill us all.
Why would they hate us? Why it's almost like it's a repeat of what happened with Japan in the pacific in ww2? It seems like America is trying to build an empire in the area and trying to control the nations in Asia instead of minding it's own bussiness. Are you going to ask why the Polish hate Russia next?

China/CCP is absolutely a threat to our freedoms.
No they are not, no foreign nation is a threat to our freedoms. No foreign nation has the ability to come to our shores and get rid of the 1st ammendment and get rid of our right to speech, or religion. They aren't trying to take our 2nd ammendment rights away either. They are not trying to impose our government to mess with our rights in any way. Other nations unless they are moral crusaders don't care how other countries run themselves inside.

China hates us because they resent Western imposition and colonialism, AND because they also aspire to be a power in Asia and the US wants to expand into the pacific.

This is the same sort of idiocy that led to evangelicals screaming "Dey hate our freedomz!" about Muslims or Iran or whatever.
 

Abhorsen

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I mean the LPG also posted one so.

But I defend what is mandatory for my job. Because I actually know it unlike majority of the people here
Lol, you don't know it. You'd suck any boot presented. Look, I think you are a good person, just with very poor judgement. I've never once seen you critique the US security state.

That's sounds real convincing coming from the party who wants to pretend the Uyghur genocide isn't happening, just for troll points.
They aren't pretending it isn't happening, just that what's happening isn't a genocide. Bad, not a genocide.

And yeah, regardless of if you like them, they are successful. Deal with it.


You both simp for war so hard, it's disgusting (Bacle, the moron, wanted Japan with US backing to declare war on Russia over the Kurils). No, if you guys are on a side, probability says it's the wrong side. Sure, there's genocide in China by most definitions, though no mass killings. But what are you going to do about it? Nothing, because America is incapable of fixing the problem. Meanwhile, the real genocide is used as a trojan horse to get all manner of stupidity passed and get America more pro war. Fuck off with that MIC nonsense.
 

Zachowon

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Facebook? They don't directly own it.

Yes, that is the whole point of capitalism, they are a large country and we decided to have our bussinesses build factories there.


Why would any foreign nation that is not a puppet care about US laws? Oh and funny you talk about spying on US citizens, obviously while not great you know who else does? Why apparently our great allies in the Anglo Saxon five eyes program. I guess it's ok to indirectly violate American's constitutional rights if you are helping the Washington world empire.


Yes the Chinese have the largest population in the world they have had that for most of history. And no they don't dictate what our entertainment makes, in America you are free to make anti CCP movies, hell you are free to make Anti China movies hell you can make it racist too if you want. It's not the Chinese who are manipulating our entertainment. It's not a foreign power.


Why would they hate us? Why it's almost like it's a repeat of what happened with Japan in the pacific in ww2? It seems like America is trying to build an empire in the area and trying to control the nations in Asia instead of minding it's own bussiness. Are you going to ask why the Polish hate Russia next?


No they are not, no foreign nation is a threat to our freedoms. No foreign nation has the ability to come to our shores and get rid of the 1st ammendment and get rid of our right to speech, or religion. They aren't trying to take our 2nd ammendment rights away either. They are not trying to impose our government to mess with our rights in any way. Other nations unless they are moral crusaders don't care how other countries run themselves inside.

China hates us because they resent Western imposition and colonialism, AND because they also aspire to be a power in Asia and the US wants to expand into the pacific.

This is the same sort of idiocy that led to evangelicals screaming "Dey hate our freedomz!" about Muslims or Iran or whatever.
They literally want to kill Americans and train thier kis to hate us.
They are literally forcing thier men to rape Ugyher women because Han superiority.
We are helping countries in Pacific because of CHINA.
they want to replace us as Hegemon, which means that they would control every aspect of our nation that is imported. From the seas, to the ports, to the companies, to the government.

thwy are doing what ever they can to make us have littler and littler power because it bewnfits them.

But yeah, go on and suck off china.

nd china can get eid of our freedoms.
all it takes is them to basically make a monopoly we can't take from them and they can ruin our economy.
Good job, now we are poorer then we were before.

Lol, you don't know it. You'd suck any boot presented. Look, I think you are a good person, just with very poor judgement. I've never once seen you critique the US security state.


They aren't pretending it isn't happening, just that what's happening isn't a genocide. Bad, not a genocide.

And yeah, regardless of if you like them, they are successful. Deal with it.


You both simp for war so hard, it's disgusting (Bacle, the moron, wanted Japan with US backing to declare war on Russia over the Kurils). No, if you guys are on a side, probability says it's the wrong side. Sure, there's genocide in China by most definitions, though no mass killings. But what are you going to do about it? Nothing, because America is incapable of fixing the problem. Meanwhile, the real genocide is used as a trojan horse to get all manner of stupidity passed and get America more pro war. Fuck off with that MIC nonsense.
Because there is a LOT more to multiple agencies and a lot more restrictions then you realize.

I know a whole hell of a lot.
I just can't talk about a lot.
 

Bacle

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Lol, you don't know it. You'd suck any boot presented. Look, I think you are a good person, just with very poor judgement. I've never once seen you critique the US security state.


They aren't pretending it isn't happening, just that what's happening isn't a genocide. Bad, not a genocide.

And yeah, regardless of if you like them, they are successful. Deal with it.


You both simp for war so hard, it's disgusting (Bacle, the moron, wanted Japan with US backing to declare war on Russia over the Kurils). No, if you guys are on a side, probability says it's the wrong side. Sure, there's genocide in China by most definitions, though no mass killings. But what are you going to do about it? Nothing, because America is incapable of fixing the problem. Meanwhile, the real genocide is used as a trojan horse to get all manner of stupidity passed and get America more pro war. Fuck off with that MIC nonsense.
Kuril's are Japan's territory, and the USSR were utter cunts for not giving it back; that doesn't make them Russian territory now, and the are still recognized as Japanese soil by most international players.

See, unlike you, I understand that NAP bullshit doesn't play internationally, never has, and that humanity will never be without armed conflict. I just want smart, judicious, righteous usage of force, instead of no force at all, and want to make sure that force is oreinted against foreign foes instead of fellow citizens.
 

Bacle

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The American Libertarian Party is what I like to call "lolbertarians". Fake, pseudo-libertarianism that is really all about sucking up to Tankies and people who hate America for stupid reactionary reasons.
Small L libertarianism is fairly sane and closely aligns with classical liberalism to help balance against tradcon conservatism.

Big L Libertarianism seems to be about making a spectacle of themselves while either worship the NAP, or pretending hippie commun politics can actually work in the real world, or doing a poor impression of a Ferengi.
 

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