China ChiCom News Thread

[Knowledgeispower]

Honestly China has at best 20 years before its demographics start causing absolutely massive problems. Russia is in a similar boat.

 

[King Arts]

Except for the fact that COVID has caused Asian hate in western Europe countries like France and England.

I should also point out China had always been ahted by a lot of countries, especially those that know what China is willing to do to win.

Also, China is on the verge of collapse because of its demographics. Thier one child policy is going to kill thier country. And soon. Especially if a war happens.

Which I am betting on that by 2030 war with China or Iran is going to happen.

I don't know how many Asians are in western Europe. But do yo you have a source? I googled something but it required a paywall. But I know western Europe has more non whites in it, but I thought those were from Africa, or other former colonies they had and from the middle east. I don't think there are very many Chinese, Japanese, or Koreans in England, France, or Germany. And for eastern Europe last I went everyone was white, the only blacks and Asians are tourists and people on student visas. Racial animus doesn't make sense to have against someone on the other side of the world who you barely interact with except for trade, no eastern European hatred is for those who are closer to home and about past grudges, and clay.

Anyway as for them doing whatever it takes to win? Doesn't the same apply to America? I mean Trump was ok with ordering war crimes and bombing historical artifacts?

And by 3030 I think Iran is the more likely of the two we've had people like Bolton pushing into it, we already had limited strikes against them, they don't have nukes yet, we don't trade with them extensively so there won't be economic crashes. However Iran is pretty mountainous and if they aren't stupid they would have prepared for the worst guerilla warfare campaign of all.

 

[Zachowon]

I don't know how many Asians are in western Europe. But do yo you have a source? I googled something but it required a paywall. But I know western Europe has more non whites in it, but I thought those were from Africa, or other former colonies they had and from the middle east. I don't think there are very many Chinese, Japanese, or Koreans in England, France, or Germany. And for eastern Europe last I went everyone was white, the only blacks and Asians are tourists and people on student visas. Racial animus doesn't make sense to have against someone on the other side of the world who you barely interact with except for trade, no eastern European hatred is for those who are closer to home and about past grudges, and clay.

Anyway as for them doing whatever it takes to win? Doesn't the same apply to America? I mean Trump was ok with ordering war crimes and bombing historical artifacts?

And by 3030 I think Iran is the more likely of the two we've had people like Bolton pushing into it, we already had limited strikes against them, they don't have nukes yet, we don't trade with them extensively so there won't be economic crashes. However Iran is pretty mountainous and if they aren't stupid they would have prepared for the worst guerilla warfare campaign of all.

If we go for hearts and minds. We won't ever win. If we go in destroy thier giventment and pull out, and give it to someone else. We win.

And no, by 2030, China will need to do something to most likely gather support of its people and find a way to get thier claims back. Because they are already hated by even south American countries for thier fishing ships going into thier waters.

Australia I am pretty sure hates China as well.

Eastern Europe has Russia to worry about more then China. Trust me, my job is to know most likely areas countries are going to go for.


As for western Europe. Let's ask those kn here from there
@Arlos @Lord Sovereign how do yalls countries feel about China?

I can assure you, China is the big bad, and even our China loving president seems to not be bowing down to them as much anynore

 

[King Arts]

If we go for hearts and minds. We won't ever win. If we go in destroy thier giventment and pull out, and give it to someone else. We win.

And no, by 2030, China will need to do something to most likely gather support of its people and find a way to get thier claims back. Because they are already hated by even south American countries for thier fishing ships going into thier waters.

Australia I am pretty sure hates China as well.

Eastern Europe has Russia to worry about more then China. Trust me, my job is to know most likely areas countries are going to go for.


As for western Europe. Let's ask those kn here from there
@Arlos @Lord Sovereign how do yalls countries feel about China?

I can assure you, China is the big bad, and even our China loving president seems to not be bowing down to them as much anynore

Of course going for hearts and minds is a stupid idea. You won't ever get them to like you, you should avoid doing mass rapes or torture, or executions to give them more reason to hate you. But a quick puntitive expedition to punish and then getting out, yes that works. But America seems addicted to nation building. Deciding to stay in Afghanistan for 20 years of constant fighting with nothing to show for it, when instead what it should have done is either go in and stay and fight till you kill Bin Laden and leave, or the second option decide how many Afghanis you want to kill as a punishment/deterant to teach people not to fuck with America, after you kill a few thousand or a million or however many you deem is good for revenge, then you pack up and leave. But no instead go with the stupid option of sitting their playing pattacake for 20 years.

 

[Zachowon]

Of course going for hearts and minds is a stupid idea. You won't ever get them to like you, you should avoid doing mass rapes or torture, or executions to give them more reason to hate you. But a quick puntitive expedition to punish and then getting out, yes that works. But America seems addicted to nation building. Deciding to stay in Afghanistan for 20 years of constant fighting with nothing to show for it, when instead what it should have done is either go in and stay and fight till you kill Bin Laden and leave, or the second option decide how many Afghanis you want to kill as a punishment/deterant to teach people not to fuck with America, after you kill a few thousand or a million or however many you deem is good for revenge, then you pack up and leave. But no instead go with the stupid option of sitting their playing pattacake for 20 years.

All I am saying is a major war is going to happen by 2030

 

[King Arts]

All I am saying is a major war is going to happen by 2030

I mean thats true, I just think it's probably Iran that is going to be where the next war happens. But no one can predict these things. WW1 starting because a Serb assassinated an Austrian was a surprise.

 

[Zachowon]

I mean thats true, I just think it's probably Iran that is going to be where the next war happens. But no one can predict these things. WW1 starting because a Serb assassinated an Austrian was a surprise.

China or Iran.
That is what will happen. Most likely both honestly enough

 

[Arlos]

If we go for hearts and minds. We won't ever win. If we go in destroy thier giventment and pull out, and give it to someone else. We win.

And no, by 2030, China will need to do something to most likely gather support of its people and find a way to get thier claims back. Because they are already hated by even south American countries for thier fishing ships going into thier waters.

Australia I am pretty sure hates China as well.

Eastern Europe has Russia to worry about more then China. Trust me, my job is to know most likely areas countries are going to go for.


As for western Europe. Let's ask those kn here from there
@Arlos @Lord Sovereign how do yalls countries feel about China?

I can assure you, China is the big bad, and even our China loving president seems to not be bowing down to them as much anynore

We hate it in general, but our elite, in particular the really rich pro europe one, absolutely lick their shoes even when they get kicked in the face for it.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

We hate it in general, but our elite, in particular the really rich pro europe one, absolutely lick their shoes even when they get kicked in the face for it.

Britain's doesn't seem so bad on that score. For all their numerous faults, the Tories are getting very twitchy about Chinese meddlings in our affairs. Meanwhile, the first major deployment of the Royal Navy carrier group is to Indonesia and the Pacific.

Can't imagine what that's for...

 

[Zachowon]

Huh wierd.
I thought it was mainly an American and East Asian thing tk hate China.

@Hlaalu Agent and what about Canada? How do they feel about China?

 

[Captain X]

Well their PM is apparently a pretty big fan of them and was upset that a joint training exercise with them to train them in cold weather warfare had been cancelled.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Huh wierd.
I thought it was mainly an American and East Asian thing tk hate China.

@Hlaalu Agent and what about Canada? How do they feel about China?

I think most average Canadians dislike China due to their antics. Though many of us are equally not impressed about being drawn into your spat.

Well their PM is apparently a pretty big fan of them and was upset that a joint training exercise with them to train them in cold weather warfare had been cancelled.

Trudeau is an idiot, nothing new.

 

[liberty90]

Something from Chinese perspective, explanation (from a CCP point of view) as to why Western democracy should be abolished in Hong Kong: Hong Kong is not beholden to ways of broken Western democracies

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Something from Chinese perspective, explanation (from a CCP point of view) as to why Western democracy should be abolished in Hong Kong: Hong Kong is not beholden to ways of broken Western democracies

I agree that western democracies are flaming garbage in general. On the other hand, it's a CCP-handpuppet doing the criticism, but fuck'em.

 

[Terthna]

China collapsing? That's a pretty big claim. And it's not necessarily a cause for celebration. You do realize that they are one of our largest trade partners.

Less a partner, more a parasite; they get far more out of the deal then we do. In the long term, our economy will actually be better off when they collapse. And they will collapse eventually; it's possible that one could play Russian Roulette a thousand times and win every time, but if you keeps playing, you're eventually going to end up shot.

Something from Chinese perspective, explanation (from a CCP point of view) as to why Western democracy should be abolished in Hong Kong: Hong Kong is not beholden to ways of broken Western democracies

The problem with Western democracies is that too many of them are trying to become as authoritarian as the CCP; which makes her criticism of them rather ironic.

 

[ATP]

Honestly China has at best 20 years before its demographics start causing absolutely massive problems. Russia is in a similar boat.

Considering that CV is killing almost only o;d people,maybe China made it to remedy situation? if all their old die from CV,problems would be gone.
And,to be honest,it would help any european country with National Insurance would benefit from it,too,including Poland.
In fact,i i do not knew how our National Insurance is unefficient,i would suspect them of making damn thing.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

Considering that CV is killing almost only o;d people,maybe China made it to remedy situation? if all their old die from CV,problems would be gone.
And,to be honest,it would help any european country with National Insurance would benefit from it,too,including Poland.
In fact,i i do not knew how our National Insurance is unefficient,i would suspect them of making damn thing.

The real problem isn't the current elderly population in China it's the next generation of them ie the backbone of China's economy at the present due to the one child policy they won't have nearly enough people to replace the workforce

 

[liberty90]

They could raise retirement age, automation is increasing, and if these measures prove insufficient then authoritarian government could for example institute mandatory 2.1-child policy (that would be very ironic).

 

[King Arts]

They could raise retirement age, automation is increasing, and if these measures prove insufficient then authoritarian government could for example institute mandatory 2.1-child policy (that would be very ironic).

Also demographic issues are overstated, they are only a problem when the native population is outbred by a foreign colonizing people. Like there is a danger of western Europeans being a minority in their own homelands. In comparison things like Japan's problem will merely cause an economic slowdown, but 100 years from now their people will still be there.

 

[Zachowon]

Also demographic issues are overstated, they are only a problem when the native population is outbred by a foreign colonizing people. Like there is a danger of western Europeans being a minority in their own homelands. In comparison things like Japan's problem will merely cause an economic slowdown, but 100 years from now their people will still be there.

No other country had a one childbpolicy for a long time, slowing down population growth and making a large diffrence in age gap