Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
From Bannon. I forget any secret document can be in word format.
Bidengate in which a meth head son and possible child abuser ruins your political grift
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From Bannon. I forget any secret document can be in word format.
lordmcdeath
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Oh, I am just getting started.
The Tax Reform was miserable, both as an effort and missed opportunity.
-He didn't address the Carried interest loophole, despite specifically campaigning on it. Nor any of a dozen other specific cutouts that favor donors or industries that overly complicate our corporate tax code especially.
-He in no way address any of the dozen techniques that Google, GE, and dozens of other major companies use to pay far less taxes than small business. Like having foreign subsidiaries in tax havens hold the intellectual property.
-No return free filing (It could make this so much less painful for the average American)
-It was constructed around being revenue neutral with some very optimistic assumptions. Better to make it immediately revenue neutral and have the economic growth help close the deficit and get us closer to pay down our massive national debt.
-Getting rid of the tax exception for state taxes made the whole thing needlessly partisan, meaning you wouldn't get any cooperation across the isle. Beyond that, paying tax on tax pisses me off on a fundamental level. It was rightly seen as an attack on blue states.
-Made virtually no effort to simplify either the personal or corporate tax code in the systemic way it really needs.
-No boost to the childcare tax credit.
Immigration
-Current system is a hideous mess. (I've gone through it and naturalized, and it took my family long enough I aged out and had to reapply, along with nearly 20k. )
-Need to radically reshape how we handle guest workers and enforcement. We need to work with Mexico to establish a core of seasonal workers to help with large scale agriculture, and other seasonal efforts legally while making sure they neither burden our social safety net nor come here illegally.
-We need to get really serious about fines for employers. And I'm talking about big fines, enough that it isn't just the cost of business, to go along with everify and the changes to guest workers
-We need to change the H1B visa, as those are broken. Not only are these people we want to keep rather than have them come learn, and leave, the way they are currently structured, the immigrant is locked into effectively indentured service to their employer who often hires them out. Any attempt to negotiate salary can be knocked down with the threat of deportation and dislocated, which in turn depresses salaries for Americans in their industry far more than just adding a few more competitors.
-Demonizing asylum seekers is both wrong and quite frankly damaging to our nation's reputation. These are often the most desperate people and even if we don't let them in, treating them like scum is utterly unhelpful.
-The whole system needs systemic overhaul.
Most of his initial cabinet were muppets.
-Jeff Sessions (Anti-Legalization, basically useless)
-Devos (Stopped the crack down on for profit scams posing as schools)
-Tillerson (Did not cover himself in glory at state)
-CBR (Mulvaney stopped them from cracking down on predator lenders like payday loans. Who operate in ways that would make a loan shark blush.)
-The list as they say, goes on.
I think the thing I loathe most, is that he ran up trillion dollar deficits when the one thing I liked most about republicans was financial restraint. He kept all the taps running, basically hot shotting our economy and leaving few options besides more deficit spending to address the current financial crisis.
Also Healthcare.
-Should have passed an initial bill protecting pre-existing conditions, staying on your parents coverage until 26, and I think the one other really popular part of Obamacare. Add forcing anyone who takes Government money to publish their Charge Master (aka the priceless for both basic/insurance rates for everything) and making Health Savings Accounts function as coverage for the purposes of both the mandate and employer mandated healthcare so long the employer provides a certain level of funding each month).
-Then if you repeal Obamacare, you don't leave people in the cold.
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As you wish. But understand something. Not all on the Left are true believers. And the best way to weaken the Left is to be someone reasonable they can talk too. Certainly defend yourself when attacked, but dont actively seek enemies either. You do yourself no favors otherwise. And with that I'll drop the matter.
LifeisTiresome
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I understand and I will try and be more calm and less aggressive.
The funny thing is that I don't care about Trump honestly. I don't hate the guy. I like that he hasn't started any new wars but thats it. I just hate the left and they created this hatred in me.
But yeah, I will take a break from this site to calm down. You're alright in my eyes.
Much appreciated. I try to be fair to everyone. Sometimes it works out other times it bites me in the ass. But by and large it's worked for me this far. You'll be alright man. All will be well.
I'd have never come over to the "right" side, and probably wouldn't be voting for Trump, If I had met the agression I see coming from people like @LifeisTiresome .
I TOTALLY understand his frustration, because I've been burned by leftist radicals too many times to count. I don't like them either, and I'm far from perfect and I lash out myself.
But I came over to the other side because people like you and the others in the PM were nice to me, and disagreed with me in a rational way. We were able to have discussions, and over time, learning more and having these discussions changed my mind on a few topics.
So I understand the anger, and the agression. I also recognize that it doesn't help.
UPS Has Found Tucker Carlson’s Lost Hunter Biden Package
A UPS spokesperson says the company has located the package that Fox News host Tucker Carlson alleged contained damning material on Hunter Biden.
dailycaller.com
So it seems the docs have been found, and UPS was the carrier. Now we'll see if they have been altered in any way, and what happened to cause them package to be opened/docs to go missing.
KilroywasNOTHere
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See, and I think I've just gotten more aggressive overtime. I don't know how much of it is a lust for revenge and how much of it is just falling into despair. If conservatives have taught me anything over the past 15 years it's that you can give cowards the greatest ideology ever and it won't mean squat. We complained about education, yet you'd never catch us dead being teachers, we complained about big tech, yet never had the guts to conquer it. We complained about Hollywood, yet we dismissed art as worthless. We cry for freedom and yet we don't bother to stand on two legs. I'll stop it here before I get banned for writing a manifesto.
All I can say is this. This reaction is as much a "Shove it!." to the boomer cons as much as it is to the left.
Edit: sorry for my language.
UPS Has Found Tucker Carlson’s Lost Hunter Biden Package
A UPS spokesperson says the company has located the package that Fox News host Tucker Carlson alleged contained damning material on Hunter Biden.
So it seems the docs have been found, and UPS was the carrier. Now we'll see if they have been altered in any way, and what happened to cause them package to be opened/docs to go missing.
They apparently had copies before it was shipped. So a side by side comparison is easy enough.
Well, not having copies would have been the height of idiocy there.
lordmcdeath
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Honestly, I could do without the aggro, but I agree with all of your points. In many ways, a great number of the issues that the Right see in the Left are the side effects of basically the normal give and take vanishing from huge swathes of the culture. Its Cultural Lupus, a hyper-immune cascade in broad swaths of our society. Ironically, if anything it is clear how deeply we need each other everywhere and always.
Beyond that, wars are fought by the people who show up. And conservatives haven't invented or financed most of the big tech. They haven't bought or invested seriously in Hollywood, enough to get the whip hand. Nore are they going out of their way to become school teachers in the numbers it would take to really change things. (That last might be in part because it pays garbage and requires more credentials than in should)
It doesn't help that its easier to market things to the Center-Left and spread it to global markets than the Right. Tories, Conservatives, and Republicans have more differences, especially as consumers.
gral
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But they did. Why do you think you had so many movies with stories taken from the Bible in the 50's and early 60's? Because the whip hand, as you put it, was conservative(even if the top management probably wasn't). After that, power shifted from the studio owners to actors, directors and the people on the studio floor(so to say), and they are the ones who have set the cultural tone since then(first on their own studios, later changing the tone of their products to suit their ideology). When they became the top executives, they ensured the whip hand would remain in liberal hands.
Same thing goes to Silicon Valley: it wasn't that conservatives didn't invest on it, the problem was that the guys who were doing things there were overwhelmingly liberal, and those who succeeded(and became the leaders of the industry) ensured the cultural biases of the sector remained overwhelmingly liberal.
gral
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Yes, that was part of what I meant by 'setting the cultural tone'.
No, the laptop thing is true. Documents show that Biden dropped it off, never picked it up, and the shop owner took possession of it. This was also claimed by someone with enough credibility that any attempt at outright fabrication is going to bring the courts down upon their heads.
That said, not all things that are allegedly from the laptop are not necessarily true.
Out of curiosity. What are your problems with his administration?
Biden is objectively worse than Trump. And that's not really a preference sort of thing. That is objectively, he is a worse leader than Trump. I know that sounds insane, especially because of Trump's brash personality and crude remarks, but Biden is bad for the Democratic party. No matter what position he takes, he pisses someone off and he lacks the Bill Clinton or Barak Obama charisma to paper over those issues.
That said, if it's an anti-Trump vote, the most someone might be able to do is persuade you NOT to vote.
I would also recommend getting a new bubble. Political bubbles are deeply toxic. They're filled with social climbers and grifters. Take in point, the right side has people like Tim Pool. And Project Veritas is not above cleverly editing some of their videos to make someone look worse than they actually were.
Well, it caused a split in the vote from national security voters. Of course, I never cared because I never gave two shits about "gold star families". I hadn't even realized that was a thing until 2016. I know the US is very pro-military, but I never imagined that some people got so far up their own assholes that they would dare take on a nimbus of political immunity because their son died.
Reminds me of my Aunt's ex-husband, who pressured his kids into joining the military because his grandfather was a war hero. Said guy is a fucking plumber. Not a bad gig, but not someone who should be looking down on their kids for not following in their great-grandfather's footsteps.
No, that wasn't his strategy. Because if he just exhausted people, they would stop listening to him. He prefers to divert energy with distractions. The exhaustion is actually probably a reaction to the media's reaction to Trump. Because every time Trump acts, the media goes into backlash mode. Back in 2016 and 2017, these backlashes were deep and immediate and hurt Trump in 2018. The problem is that the media has exhausted the public's interest in Trump's antics.
Actually, these are nothing like those accusations. Even if Trump were behind the former, no one with any real credibility actually promoted them. Sure one of Trump's sons might have retweeted it or something, but they lack any real credibility. A former New York Governor has a lot of credibility, whether the left likes it or not. For Giuliani to come out and make those accusations requires serious evidence to prove said accusations--because the court would not spare Giuliani any mercy in punishing him for that.
That said, I since we already know about your personal disgust for Trump, how do you feel about his policy choices?
It is like he is trying to get on the Hell Express because he doesn't want to wait in line.
What...seriously!?
The Gateway Pundit Article has the details, including photo comparisons from the PH account and photos off the laptop.
Supposedly there's even a vid in there with the Biden name on it.
What...seriously!?
Christ. No wonder the Navy Reserve booted his ass after only a month of "service".
Good God. Good God.
Even after daddy got him a commission and a fucking age waver, he still couldn't keep his nose clean.
Well, at least Trump is having a good time.