United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

Buba

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How funny would it be if Biden ruins Harris's plans by tripping and falling to his death.
Please elucidate.
I thought that "elect Biden, wait (not long) for him to pop his cogs/resign over health, usher Harris as President" was the plan all along ... or so I've read ...
So, what are Harris' plans where she needs to be VPOTUS?
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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Please elucidate.
I thought that "elect Biden, wait (not long) for him to pop his cogs/resign over health, usher Harris as President" was the plan all along ... or so I've read ...
So, what are Harris' plans where she needs to be VPOTUS?
They want to wait till after 2 years in, so Harris can run in 2024 and 2028.

If Harris takes over too soon, she can only serve one term of her own.
 

Doomsought

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Harris is conniving, but also spiteful. So if biden ruins the plan by dieing on her, she will need to take it out on somebody. It will accelerate things faster than they are able to handle.
 

Terthna

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Oh, if your position relies on the controlled opposition idea, I don't think we'll be able to agree. In my view, if RINOs were willing to be a controlled opposition, things would have been looking very different for the last five years, even ten years. If it wasn't for their struggle between control of their own party and control of Congress, they wouldn't have lost control of their own party. I'm curious what you think of that idea.
The RINOs wouldn't even exist if they weren't controlled opposition; that's why they're Republicans In Name Only, because they're actually part of the same establishment as the Democrats, with mostly the same goals.

If they are in control of the outcome of the voting process, ejecting half the Republican caucus would be an unnecessary move; if they don't, it would be a self-destructive move.

Or you you mean that it is unnecessary but they're just going bonkers?
Pretty much; the establishment already have all the power they need to do whatever they want, but I think the past four years have driven them completely insane, and their paranoia has them convinced they can never stop pushing as hard as they can for more power and control.
 

LindyAF

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tbh I got don't know where the idea that there's any plan to replace Biden with Harris comes from. I don't really see how that would benefit the left. It might cut down on a few gaffs but not much else, they're both pretty much democratic party establishment creatures, they're going to be drawing from pretty much the same pool of people in terms of appointments and advisors, getting the same donors etc. Harris ran slightly to his left during the presidential campaign but not by that much, and IIRC they'd been political allies before that.

Also I might be missing something but I also don't think Harris has the sort of personal political network or faction within the democratic establishment directly loyal to her to be pushing herself directly? I mean, I'm sure she's got some sort of political network and some allies, but she isn't the Clintons or anything.

As an aside, running Harris instead of Biden would be a disaster for the democrats, and while I'm sure some of them are willfully ignorant of this because it relies upon things that they think it would be "unwoke" to acknowledge, I think they've got at least some people that do know that.
 

Bacle

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tbh I got don't know where the idea that there's any plan to replace Biden with Harris comes from. I don't really see how that would benefit the left. It might cut down on a few gaffs but not much else, they're both pretty much democratic party establishment creatures, they're going to be drawing from pretty much the same pool of people in terms of appointments and advisors, getting the same donors etc. Harris ran slightly to his left during the presidential campaign but not by that much, and IIRC they'd been political allies before that.

Also I might be missing something but I also don't think Harris has the sort of personal political network or faction within the democratic establishment directly loyal to her to be pushing herself directly? I mean, I'm sure she's got some sort of political network and some allies, but she isn't the Clintons or anything.

As an aside, running Harris instead of Biden would be a disaster for the democrats, and while I'm sure some of them are willfully ignorant of this because it relies upon things that they think it would be "unwoke" to acknowledge, I think they've got at least some people that do know that.
You are forgetting one important angle; 'First Woman POTUS'.
 

Terthna

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tbh I got don't know where the idea that there's any plan to replace Biden with Harris comes from. I don't really see how that would benefit the left. It might cut down on a few gaffs but not much else, they're both pretty much democratic party establishment creatures, they're going to be drawing from pretty much the same pool of people in terms of appointments and advisors, getting the same donors etc. Harris ran slightly to his left during the presidential campaign but not by that much, and IIRC they'd been political allies before that.

Also I might be missing something but I also don't think Harris has the sort of personal political network or faction within the democratic establishment directly loyal to her to be pushing herself directly? I mean, I'm sure she's got some sort of political network and some allies, but she isn't the Clintons or anything.

As an aside, running Harris instead of Biden would be a disaster for the democrats, and while I'm sure some of them are willfully ignorant of this because it relies upon things that they think it would be "unwoke" to acknowledge, I think they've got at least some people that do know that.
They want to replace Biden with Harris because he's not likely to last til the next election; even two years may be too much of a stretch for the guy, as his health and mental capacity is clearly deteriorating by the day. Whatever drugs they have him on to keep him at least somewhat lucid are not going to work forever.
 

LindyAF

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You are forgetting one important angle; 'First Woman POTUS'.

Not really something that drives out the vote though. The only people who care are AWFLs and extremely online liberals and they're already going to be voting and "voting blue no matter who" anyway.

They want to replace Biden with Harris because he's not likely to last til the next election; even two years may be too much of a stretch for the guy, as his health and mental capacity is clearly deteriorating by the day. Whatever drugs they have him on to keep him at least somewhat lucid are not going to work forever.

I mean he doesn't have to be running anything, I doubt Biden has any real policy or ideas that are distinguishable from what the government bureaucracy wants anyway. As long as he can at least sign off on whatever they put in front of him, they can just have him delegate everything to the white house staff, cabinet, etc.

If he dies in office that's a bad look for dems but it's better than if he had to be removed.

I think they want to keep Biden in as long as possible so that they can put the blame for all their radical stuff on him. That way when people ask "Why is gas 10 dollars a gallon" or "Why is everybody to the right of John McCain being thrown in a gulag" they can point to the senile old coot on his deathbed.

Any economic issue they're going to blame on Trump + Corona, anything else they're just going to media propagandize.
 

Terthna

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Not really something that drives out the vote though. The only people who care are AWFLs and extremely online liberals and they're already going to be voting and "voting blue no matter who" anyway.



I mean he doesn't have to be running anything, I doubt Biden has any real policy or ideas that are distinguishable from what the government bureaucracy wants anyway. As long as he can at least sign off on whatever they put in front of him, they can just have him delegate everything to the white house staff, cabinet, etc.

If he dies in office that's a bad look for dems but it's better than if he had to be removed.



Any economic issue they're going to blame on Trump + Corona, anything else they're just going to media propagandize.
You're making the mistake of assuming the vote matters anymore; it doesn't. If it did, Biden and Harris wouldn't have been fraudulently elected to office. From the perspective of the establishment, Biden is simply dead weight.
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Whoops. Thanks, and fixed.

Anyway, the Chinese insulting us isn’t surprising. They think they can push hard because Biden isn’t Trump, but OTOH, the problem for them is that even if they get short term gains, long term it’s going to be remembered by the American public and blow up in China’s face (again).

You’d think after the British smacked them around in the 1840s they’d have learned a thing or two about how there are in fact peers to China...
That's going to be at least four years of assuming the US will take it in the ass or react in kind.
 

Airedale260

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That's going to be at least four years of assuming the US will take it in the ass or react in kind.

Well, it’s going to bite them hard. The reason Beijing went off like this is because they thought that Biden’s prior comments were “purely for domestic consumption” and he’d go easy on them otherwise. When they got slapped in the face by reality (again) they predictably went off and had a tantrum because it’s clear that the U.S. as a whole is done with their shit.
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Well, it’s going to bite them hard. The reason Beijing went off like this is because they thought that Biden’s prior comments were “purely for domestic consumption” and he’d go easy on them otherwise. When they got slapped in the face by reality (again) they predictably went off and had a tantrum because it’s clear that the U.S. as a whole is done with their shit.
The US is looking weak right now. North Korea ghosted them, China and Russia mocks them.

There's a reason why the crimea was lost under Obama's nose.
 
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