mrttao
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You are counting the number of individuals committing fraud.
I am counting the scale of the fraud they are committing.
Every single fraudster can fabricate / destroy a very large amount of votes.
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I am counting the scale of the fraud they are committing.
Every single fraudster can fabricate / destroy a very large amount of votes.
mrttao
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There is literally a system in USA where, if you register to vote in a state. your old registrations in other states are deleted.
Some states intentionally chose to opt-out of using that system to clean up such old registrations. because they want fraud votes.
Wargamer08
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Now to be fair, I can also see the way such a system can be weaponized. Letting other states decide who is allowed to vote in your state is a dangerous game. Especially with how opaque voter rolls are.
mrttao
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fair.
but you could probably at least use that system to trigger a check/followup instead of automatic deletion.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
I don't know why I expected anything else from you on this. You just ignore anything inconvenient to you on other topics, why would you do anything else here?
If you can't see the difference between less than 50 million spent to get a functioning reactor going, and billions of dollars being spent to get a functional reactor going...
...No, I guess that really does just fit your past pattern of behavior. Try to conflate the cost of the whole project that went from nothing to bombs with the cost of something that got one fusion reactor going all you like. Even the page you linked to 'prove' your point lists how the money was spent around multiple different facilities for multiple different purposes, which really shatters your own point, but like with other debates you get into, you're just incapable of recognizing evidence that damages rather than supports your own positions, aren't you?
Also, ITER all by itself is costing between 18 billion euros, and 65 billion dollars, while being described as 'the most expensive science experiment of all time.' It also isn't going to make a commercially viable fusion reactor, so it all by itself sinks your idea that fusion is 'under-funded,' and it won't be getting fusion as far as the entire budget of the Manhattan project et all got Fission.
Not that you're going to admit the significance of that.
Morphic Tide
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Voter fraud is when you cast an illigitimate ballot, generally under your own name. Election fraud is when you alter the counts after the ballots have been cast, generally using the names of others.
The misled Florida criminals were committing voter fraud, the people knowingly entering such into the rolls and directly editing the digital count are committing election fraud.
mrttao
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eh, is it really? quick search shows they are used interchangeably.
also, what do you call it when one person who is not working at the polling office casts 1k illigitimate mail in ballots under various names?
History Learner
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That's a long winded way of saying you don't really have any counters and now have shifted to attacking me, rather than the argument. As I've often said, as much as you or others like to go on and on about me, if you really felt that way, you wouldn't bother to respond. The reality is I'm right and that's just grating to you, as it clashes with your own world view.
Because that is not and never was my argument, you chose to deliberate misinterpret it in order to engage a strawman. The entire cost of the Manhattan Project was $40 Billion, not $50 million; you for some reason decided to hyper focus in on the Chicago Pile to claim I made an argument I never did. In reality, the only thing I did was note CP-1 to commercialization timetable; I specifically noted the rest of the funding that was required to get there by noting several times the PWRs of Rickover.
Again, personal attacks because you've clearly lost the argument. If you want to talk about other facilities, please explain to me why I would talk about NIF, ITER, and others? Again, you've just made up a strawman and when I picked that apart, you've shifted to this weird argument that is just speaking in generalities that have no bearing on the actual argument I made. Hell, I wasn't even making an argument in general, you just saw fit to pick one and then get mad you lost it.
No, the chart I presented and to which you didn't respond to for obvious reasons does that well enough. ITER started in 2007 and the highest estimate for cost is between $45 and $65 Billion out to 2035. Taking the median of $55 Billion at 37 years, that's $1.5 Billion annually; defer back to chart to see how that compares to the 1976 Projections. You might also find it helpful to read about how the funding difficulties of the last decade severely hindered the project, before arguing they didn't exist.
49ersfootball
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Good Morning. Any thoughts on the ending of Title 42 ?
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Sergeant Foley
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Granholm did win three statewide elections as Michigan State Attorney General (1998) and Michigan Governor (2002, 2006).
Sergeant Foley
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Who's that?
Bigking321
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A back to the future reference.
A device the size of a blender capable of generating fusion power from table scraps.
Ain't dying for this gay ass Empire.
What the fuck does some UK woke shit have to do with Ukraine?
Seriously, Pedro is a fucking grifter and one of the parasites who has made the GOP so much less competent and credible with bullshit like this.
No one is talking about send people to fight in Ukraine, Ukraine isn't even taking in any foreign fighters right now because the Ukrainians need gear, not people. They have the people to fight this war till they force Russia out, but the need the gear to make it happen.
This sort of bad faith argument, that openly ignores the reality on the ground in favor a propaganda line that isn't even close to true, is part of why a lot of moderates have begun to see the GOP as just as bad as the Dems, and that goes for the Far Right part of the GOP particularly.
But at this point I do not expect you to actually have a coherent argument in support of cutting aid to Ukraine, or why Zelensky is as bad as Putin, instead of the usual 'nothing outside the western hemisphere matters or I cannot provide source because google buried it' sctick.
Just admit you mostly hate Ukraine for providing a bipartisan unifying situation for most of the US public, and for crimes of past Ukrainian rulers, while also providing a great litmus test for which 'fringe' ideologies are either legacy Soviet psy-ops, glowie psy-ops, grifter scams, or patholigically contrarian for the sake of being contrarians, instead of actually worthwhile ideologies or movements to follow.