LordsFire
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This is the exception in the US. It's horrific, and this shit needs to be stopped, because otherwise it will spread.
In China, this is the standard for how things are everywhere.
There's a difference there.
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This is the exception in the US. It's horrific, and this shit needs to be stopped, because otherwise it will spread.
In China, this is the standard for how things are everywhere.
There's a difference there.
"We're in transition"
Transition to what, exactly?
I think,that we would sleep better if we do not knew that.
Terthna
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By not including people who don't favor them, obviously.
I mean, I get it statistically, but it's still a huge contrast you don't normally see. I'd love to see the true numbers sampled in that survey.
mrttao
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You are ignoring two critical things:
1. it is 2022 now. you are pretending we are in the usa of the past
2. usa was never as clean as you make it out to be. (although it DID have time periods where it was better than china)
USA prisons have been rape camps for many decades now.
Extraordinary rendition has been a thing since clinton.
There was a nice little gap since the closing down of the torture asylums and the start of extraordinary rendition during which it was much harder to get away with such shit in the USA and it was relatively rare.
There was still some shady shit being done by the CIA and the like, but it was not nearly as widespread.
Those were the golden years of the USA.
But even during the nicest periods they could make a sham court case and throw you into max sec prison to be tortured and raped by other prisoners.
Although again, during said golden years it was still not nearly as bad as china back than
But here is the thing. 2022 is not the golden years. We do not live in the nicest period of USA history. We live during its darkest hour.
And this is not something starting just right now. This has been going on for decades. As mentioned, clinton started extraordinary rendition where it is perfectly legal for the CIA to label a political enemy as a "domestic terrorist" and then put you in a special torture prison out of the usa.
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Not really, not anymore.
Because DC is owned by Beijing, and the DC establishment would really like to have the amount of control over American's lives that the CCP has over their citizens.
What they are doing to the Jan 6th political prisoners is just a taste of what is to come for those who oppose the Uniparty, unless things change in a big way.
Yeah, America is a case of "not there yet but on it's way." And those un power very much want it to go that way.
Let's hope they fail. America is not on the right path, unless you're one of the elites.
mrttao
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"not there yet but on it's way" was decades ago. we are already there.
how exactly are we "not there yet"?
* torturing political prisoners to death
* engaging in big brother
* fake elections
* blatant lies
* kangaroo courts
* poverty, "and this is a good thing"
they are not "elite", just the aristocracy.
and they like to think it will be good for them, but they are wrong. It is bad for them too.
they all assume they will be the next stalin, not realizing they will be the next trotsky.
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I wrote a hand written letter to my attorney general a couple years ago, "you can pry my money from my cold, dead hands," over them trying to collect on a fraudulent debt.
I openly have criticized our last four presidents on the internet, with my own identity, to the public.
I have been publicly openly against covid mandates and vaccines for years now.
I have donated money to Donald Trump.
And here I am. Not being held in a prison. I've gotten banned from a few websites, but I am still a free man.
Where we are sucks. Our economy is broken, our democracy is broken, and we have taken a *hard* authouritarian swing under an illegitimate president.
I'd still rather be here than in fucking China, any day. A million times over.
I can admit America is in a very bad, dark place, while also acknowledging that we are only taking a few plays from China's totalitarian book. We aren't there yet. But if things don't change, we will be before too long.
mrttao
Well-known member
You have this inaccurate notion that china throws every single person who says literally anything in prison.
They do not. For example if you complain about tianamen square you lose 4 social credit points (out of 700) instead of going to the gulag.
Your small acts of rebellion are on the same level of a chinese national says "remember tianamen square". Each time you do it you are losing a little "social credit", just like a chinese person would from such minor acts of dissidence (getting deplatformed, getting canceled, etc).
It takes a larger act of dissidence (such as for example physically protesting in person a stolen election) to get gulaged in either country.
This is not out of kindness mind you, but practicality. They can't just have everyone in gulags. who would work if they did that? Plus they can only manage so many prisons.
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Terthna
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Well at least our government isn't rounding people up in order to harvest their organs to sell on the black market.
mrttao
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They are though. Official government PR sources like CNN say that this is all conspiracy theories... just like how china's sanctioned news sources claim that this isn't something that happens in china and is all anti china propaganda.
Plus massive child trafficking (see pizzagate). The CIA is backing the mexican drug cartels for both human trafficking and drug trafficking to help finance its black ops.
Then you have the open harvesting of foreskins from massive amount of newborn babies. Usually without parental consent. And the foreskins are stolen and sold (each foreskin was worth about 100k a decade ago.)
There is a reason why they appointed a supreme court judge who is openly pro pedophilia
strunkenwhite
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are you seriously telling me pizzagate was real
Pizzagate specifically, no. The massive worldwide pedophilia ring that's still operating to this day despite Epstein, yup.
…I mean, it was basically proven that there was, and likely still is, a massive international pedophile ring mostly made up of the rich, famous, and well connected. The pimp in that case was named Epstein.
The full clients list is just never going to get published, because the corrupt judiciary decided to offer up Maxwell as distraction/scapegoat and seal away any court records that may have been of concern to the elites.
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Hell, don’t even need to really drag Epstein’s corpse into this. Hollyweird has been a known den of pedos and rapists since at least the seventies.
mrttao
Well-known member
It is very real, yes.
Incidentally, literally nobody in the government was arrested. Epstein literally run a pedophile island brothel catering to the aristocracy. Literally all the politicians and super rich flew there for "vacation" on his pedo brothel...
He literally kept a personal black book with a list of names of those people and dates for his blackmail... this blackbook was literally published.
And what happened from that? Epstein dies in custody before he can testify, and literally none of the congressmen or other aristocrats who are in his blackbook are persecuted. The news is utterly mum on it.
You are incorrect Hollywood has been a known deb of pedophiles and rapists since at least the 1920s which is when we start getting reports of 'casting couches'
strunkenwhite
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A distinction I consider important, not least because of the cover given to the real by obsession with the fake.
Yes, Biden Is Hiding His Plan To Rig The 2022 Midterm Elections
The White House is refusing to share details about its coordinated efforts to engage in a federal takeover of election administration.
thefederalist.com
Terthna
Professional Lurker
Yes, Biden Is Hiding His Plan To Rig The 2022 Midterm Elections
The White House is refusing to share details about its coordinated efforts to engage in a federal takeover of election administration.
What, like; entirely? Maybe there is no grand scheme behind all this; maybe they really are just that stupid.