United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

[mrttao]

If there is mass cheating again, odds that people will try to win via conventional voting a third time are lousy. Instead, that would set things up for an actual civil war.

We do not want to see that.

Speak for yourself. I am immensely disappointed the civil war did not start in 2020.
Yes yes, civil war is ugly. blah blah
But the sooner we have it the sooner we can start healing.

I am sick of living in a third world country.
1. food shortages
2. massive open election fraud
3. ministry of truth
4. mass poverty
5. mass inflation

I did not sign up for this. and at this point literally the only solution is to get through the civil war already. Slow suffering for a few more decades as we pointlessly delay the civil war is not going to be doing us any favors

 

[Terthna]

Speak for yourself. I am immensely disappointed the civil war did not start in 2020.
Yes yes, civil war is ugly. blah blah
But the sooner we have it the sooner we can start healing.

I am sick of living in a third world country.
1. food shortages
2. massive open election fraud
3. ministry of truth
4. mass poverty
5. mass inflation

I did not sign up for this. and at this point literally the only solution is to get through the civil war already. Slow suffering for a few more decades as we pointlessly delay the civil war is not going to be doing us any favors

The American Revolution was an aberration amongst revolutions, in that somehow, nobody managed to co-opt it into a vehicle for their own rise to power; which is what happens in almost all revolutions. Trying to overthrow our oppressors with violence is not the solution to the problem you're thinking it is; it's a Hail Mary pass at best, unlikely to result in any notable improvement in our circumstances, and rushing into it isn't going to improve our odds.

 

[S'task]

The American Revolution was an aberration amongst revolutions, in that somehow, nobody managed to co-opt it into a vehicle for their own rise to power; which is what happens in almost all revolutions. Trying to overthrow our oppressors with violence is not the solution to the problem you're thinking it is; it's a Hail Mary pass at best, unlikely to result in any notable improvement in our circumstances, and rushing into it isn't going to improve our odds.

Once again, thank God that the one man who WAS in a position to use it for a vehicle for their own rise to power was George Washington.

It cannot be understated enough that his humility and honor laid a foundation that few other countries ever get. There's very good reason he was often called "The Father of the Country".

 

[ATP]

Once again, thank God that the one man who WAS in a position to use it for a vehicle for their own rise to power was George Washington.

It cannot be understated enough that his humility and honor laid a foundation that few other countries ever get. There's very good reason he was often called "The Father of the Country".

Indeed.If you have american Robespierre or even Danton instead....

 

[Zyobot]

Indeed.If you have american Robespierre or even Danton instead....

Or an American Lenin, or Stalin, or Hitler at the pace we're going.

Not enough desperation or political capital for them to rise to the forefront right now, I think, but give it a few more decades of continuous pressure building up, and that could easily change.

 

[mrttao]

The American Revolution was an aberration amongst revolutions, in that somehow, nobody managed to co-opt it into a vehicle for their own rise to power; which is what happens in almost all revolutions. Trying to overthrow our oppressors with violence is not the solution to the problem you're thinking it is; it's a Hail Mary pass at best, unlikely to result in any notable improvement in our circumstances, and rushing into it isn't going to improve our odds.

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[Terthna]

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Oh no; they'd rather you rush into it so that they can use you as an example after you screw it up. If you're going to revolt, it's best not to use January 6th as an example for how to do it; if all else fails, we're probably only going get one shot at getting it right, so please don't screw things up for everyone else by going off half-cocked. And don't expect it to be all gumdrops and rainbows; revolutions always suck for everyone involved, and well after they're over even if the good guys win.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Speak for yourself. I am immensely disappointed the civil war did not start in 2020.
Yes yes, civil war is ugly. blah blah
But the sooner we have it the sooner we can start healing.

Civil war only happens in the Americas when soccer parents get off their asses and decide that their kids have suffered enough. That's kind of how its been historically..hell even the American revolutionary war itself didn't go hot until the middle classes got squeezed.

So that won't happen for a bit..when it does though its like something that goes from zero to a hundred in under six seconds and they almost always go waaayyy over the line and kill waayyy too many people because they're overreacting to a problem everyone else noticed well before them.

As @S'task noted...the US was very lucky it got someone like Washington who was more interested in channeling that pent up fury than say..Sakamoto Ryoma or Maxamillion Robespierre or Lucius Cornelius Sulla or a Jorge Rafeal Videla.

 

[Cherico]

Civil war only happens in the Americas when soccer parents get off their asses and decide that their kids have suffered enough. That's kind of how its been historically..hell even the American revolutionary war itself didn't go hot until the middle classes got squeezed.

So that won't happen for a bit..when it does though its like something that goes from zero to a hundred in under six seconds and they almost always go waaayyy over the line and kill waayyy too many people because they're overreacting to a problem everyone else noticed well before them.

As @S'task noted...the US was very lucky it got someone like Washington who was more interested in channeling that pent up fury than say..Sakamoto Ryoma or Maxamillion Robespierre or Lucius Cornelius Sulla or a Jorge Rafeal Videla.

my money is that the wokies die in droves when the civil war kicks off what do you think?

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

my money is that the wokies die in droves when the civil war kicks off what do you think?

I think we won't have one, because these retards are going to get blown the fuck out the ol'fashion civil way well before Americans need to use violence to dislodge them. Everything that's happened over the last decade has been the panicked actions of a collapsing dynasty not one in ascent.

The dangerous leftists and globalists all died out over the last twenty years...their boomer successors are infantile morons who can only continue their depravity via inertia and they're all closer to a hundred years of age than they are fifty. The Gen Xers and Millennials they picked as their pawns?

Yeah they can barely form a coherent thought.

This is a power game they've lost and lost hard.

I'd have to see something really insane for me to think otherwise. I do think we'll get some urban dust ups and a few Ruby Ridges which end even worse for the Glowies than the original one did but I don't think it'll go beyond that. And I would stress, that those events would be a disaster in disguise as a blessing.

People are just gonna sue and vote these clowns out of power...Hell individual state Republican parties have been purging their uniparty hacks at rates that haven't been seen since the 1980's.

I think we've got a lot more time and leeway than the blackpillers and demoralizers imagine.

 

[mrttao]

Civil war only happens in the Americas when soccer parents get off their asses and decide that their kids have suffered enough. That's kind of how its been historically..hell even the American revolutionary war itself didn't go hot until the middle classes got squeezed.

So food shortages isn't it somehow?

I think we won't have one, because these retards are going to get blown the fuck out the ol'fashion civil way well before Americans need to use violence to dislodge them. Everything that's happened over the last decade has been the panicked actions of a collapsing dynasty not one in ascent.

The dangerous leftists and globalists all died out over the last twenty years...their boomer successors are infantile morons who can only continue their depravity via inertia and they're all closer to a hundred years of age than they are fifty. The Gen Xers and Millennials they picked as their pawns?

Yeah they can barely form a coherent thought.

This is a power game they've lost and lost hard.

I'd have to see something really insane for me to think otherwise. I do think we'll get some urban dust ups and a few Ruby Ridges which end even worse for the Glowies than the original one did but I don't think it'll go beyond that. And I would stress, that those events would be a disaster in disguise as a blessing.

People are just gonna sue and vote these clowns out of power...Hell individual state Republican parties have been purging their uniparty hacks at rates that haven't been seen since the 1980's.

I think we've got a lot more time and leeway than the blackpillers and demoralizers imagine.

This seems like wishful thinking. This same line has been said over and over for decades now and they are still there and getting worse.
If you are right though it would certainly be nice.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

So food shortages isn't it somehow?

Food shortages won't impact the burbs for another six months. But yeah that's going to positively enrage them. Enough to do something about it but not that something.

This seems like wishful thinking. This same line has been said over and over for decades now and they are still there and getting worse.
If you are right though it would certainly be nice.

Yeah, I can see how it looks that way but ive actually lived through when the bad guys win and it doesnt look it this time.

 

[Terthna]

I think we've got a lot more time and leeway than the blackpillers and demoralizers imagine.

I hope so. I'd feel like an idiot, but a grateful one if things turn out as well as you've described.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I hope so. I'd feel like an idiot, but a grateful one if things turn out as well as you've described.

The alternative is...ugly.

Sometimes, extremely rarely necessary but unfathomably ugly and whoever drops the ball in their home country so hard that is the solution ought to feel like a massive dumbass for letting it get that bad when you usually as a society have dozens of moments to stop it.

 

[posh-goofiness]

The alternative is...ugly.

Sometimes, extremely rarely necessary but unfathomably ugly and whoever drops the ball in their home country so hard that is the solution ought to feel like a massive dumbass for letting it get that bad when you usually as a society have dozens of moments to stop it.

Except this isn't a case of merely dropping the ball. It's a decade plus of intentional sabotage enabled by two to three decades of political and cultural maneuvering to place the pieces on the board enabled by four to five decades of intentionally undermining our culture, our identity, our sense of unity. If I actually believed this was mere incompetence I would agree with you. I do not believe that.

 

[Cherico]

Except this isn't a case of merely dropping the ball. It's a decade plus of intentional sabotage enabled by two to three decades of political and cultural maneuvering to place the pieces on the board enabled by four to five decades of intentionally undermining our culture, our identity, our sense of unity. If I actually believed this was mere incompetence I would agree with you. I do not believe that.

Things are bad right now but these guys are self destructive assholes who are increasingly becoming more and more out of touch. Its going to take a long time to fix this but this to will pass.

 

[posh-goofiness]

Things are bad right now but these guys are self destructive assholes who are increasingly becoming more and more out of touch. Its going to take a long time to fix this but this to will pass.

Their self-destructive tendencies do not stop them from destroying the country around them.

 

[Cherico]

Their self-destructive tendencies do not stop them from destroying the country around them.

No it does not, like I said fixing this is a multi decade process

 

[ATP]

Except this isn't a case of merely dropping the ball. It's a decade plus of intentional sabotage enabled by two to three decades of political and cultural maneuvering to place the pieces on the board enabled by four to five decades of intentionally undermining our culture, our identity, our sense of unity. If I actually believed this was mere incompetence I would agree with you. I do not believe that.

More then decade.Some confederate general who joined masons wrote about 1870 that they need 3 world wars to unite Earth under their thumb.They manage to create 2 wars so far.
But - it is true,that current generation of leftist is,well,stupid.They could fuck grand plan of their ancestors.
We would see,on this world on another.

 

[Bear Ribs]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/05/27/biden-student-debt-borrower/

The current Biden plan is to forgive 10,000 in student debt for all persons with under 150,000 in annual income.