United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

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The Original Sixth said:
Crap, I hadn't realized that their police force was considered PART of that organization. Dear God, what a fucking shitshow. No wonder they're getting fucked in the ass.
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Policing and justice in general is significantly easier once you have your priorities straight, unlike the US.

If you, your patrons, or your clan are involved they're legally in the right. If none of those are involved who cares what happens?
 
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How nice of Biden and the Military to leave all these assets just... Laying around forgotten as they left. Just trusting the local Afghans to keep an eye on them I am sure. No way they were warned by people who knew better it might be a bad idea nah, they obviously just trusted the locals that well and had full confidence there was no way this stuff was gonna just be seized. Not like we have massive intelligence agencies and networks who would be able to keep tabs and see this shit coming. I am sure this was a simple oversight that no one saw coming.

Just as unlikely that they were counting on it to make the situation bad and possibly justify going back. I am sure the Taliban won't use this bountiful harvest of taxpayer money and military hardware to do a little trolling around. I just cannot see them using this to try and attack Israel or anything. That would make the situation worse, and require the US and allies to go back in force and fight once again except this time they would have a lot more hardware.
 
Zachowon said:
The Humvees mean nothing.
The Maxxpros are eh. Mechanical nightmare.
They are gonna learn to fly the drones but have limited ability to keep them up.
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It looks like they only have a part of the scaneagle system, so doubt they will be able to control the drones.

Also it looks like they already trashed the launch catapult by wielding a flag onto it.
 
Rocinante said:
We spent 20 years fighting them.

They should be destroyed.

But instead they take over the country in a week.

They won. They defeated the US. We spent 20 years there, didn't accomplish shit, hightailed it out of there, And they took over a week after we left. They didn't need jets and nukes. All they needed were a few rusty AKs.
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The problem is that the West tried creating a centralized modern liberal democracy in a setting where it just doesn’t work. We tried the same thing in South Vietnam and that failed -the problem is that in order for such efforts to work, one has to be willing to take into account the realities on the ground, and accept that you are going to have a state that would horrify the average Westerner in terms of its culture (treatment of women, minorities, homosexuals, etc) but also make sure you pay attention to who you’re propping up (no murderers or people who rape prisoners with the barrels of AKs need apply) and crack down on corruption (and if someone tries to whack someone trying to clean things up, you come down on them like a ton of bricks).

Iraq started to fuck itself over when it tried playing the “we know better than the Americans” card -fortunately they at least had a sufficient amount of command and control to stabilize the situation. And at the moment they’re at least still in okay shape. But they also weren’t ravaged by nearly 50 years of nonstop war and we co-opted existing government structures.

Anyway…it’s a mess and it sucks that it’s ending like this but given the state of the ANA and ANP (collectively they can be referred to as the ANSDF) it was pretty much inevitable.
 
I mean if they leave weapons for them to use against china in the future, well I won't complain too much as long as its the sort of stuff thats short range only.
 
Sobek said:
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How nice of Biden and the Military to leave all these assets just... Laying around forgotten as they left. Just trusting the local Afghans to keep an eye on them I am sure. No way they were warned by people who knew better it might be a bad idea nah, they obviously just trusted the locals that well and had full confidence there was no way this stuff was gonna just be seized. Not like we have massive intelligence agencies and networks who would be able to keep tabs and see this shit coming. I am sure this was a simple oversight that no one saw coming.

Just as unlikely that they were counting on it to make the situation bad and possibly justify going back. I am sure the Taliban won't use this bountiful harvest of taxpayer money and military hardware to do a little trolling around. I just cannot see them using this to try and attack Israel or anything. That would make the situation worse, and require the US and allies to go back in force and fight once again except this time they would have a lot more hardware.
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Biden didn't leave those assets laying around. It was the Afghan military. That's their gear. That we gave them. It's disgusting that it's been lost so easily and probably without any real use, but the Afghan army has proven itself to be a collection of thieves and cowards.

As for the gear...the Humvees are major to a third rate military or rabble, but to the US or Israel? Barely even worth talking about. And I doubt the Taliban have the logistics capability to launch an attack against Israel without Israel shoving their fist so far up their ass that they start puking leather. And really, that sort of distance is so beyond the Taliban it isn't even funny. They'd have to drive through Iran, Iraq, AND Jordan to reach Israel.

And then maintain the logistic train enough to be an actual threat to Israel.

The ScanEagle drones are basically a militarized version of a publicly sold and produced drone, so the actual hardware and software on those things are probably pretty basic. The most you might need to worry about is the Russians or Chinese buying them to get tips and tricks on how to make their own...but again, easily available public option and a pretty straightforward design. The ScanEagle only has a flight range of about 62 miles and a flight endurance of about 20 hours. It carries no weapons.

My guess is that they'll break half of them before the war is over and then horde the remaining ones for the next half century, similar to Iran's air force.
 
Big question is whether the US Embassy in Kabul gets blown up to avoid the Taliban rampaging it ?

I've heard employees at the US Embassy in Kabul destroyed documents, papers, phones, computers, etc.,
 
Ok everyone. Calm down now. I get it. The rhetoric these days is at "Farhenheit 451" but we don't need to add to it. We don't need to be making idiotic statements about something that is going to put us on the radar of certain three letter agencies. You wanna use your 1st Amendment rights? Go ahead. But let's not give *them* the excuse they want.
 
Abhorsen said:
All doom posting has been moved to the doom thread.
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For those curious, I present live audio from the doom thread:

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Anyhow. On-topic of the administration and recent events...
Well, getting out of Afghanistan has been a long time coming and should've happened sooner, really. So that's the diamond in the very large turd-pile of current events re: Afghanistan.
 
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