Battletech BattleTech discussion thread: May the light of Hanse Davion guide us

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prinCZess said:
*Notably here folks like yours truly who've not read any of the fiction past the FedCom Civil War and have only briefly glanced at sourcebooks occaisonally looking for flavorful notes of stuff...So this is all probably coming from a thoroughly unfamiliar and divorced-from-how-Canopus is actually portrayed in anything that portrays it since Canopus doesn't really get much focus in any of the 3025-3060 fiction...So grain of salt/I'm just bullshitting in the name of defending Glorious Canopus from vicious slander by men :p


As to the kickstarter discussion...
I threw in a few bucks to get one of the slick, signed books, but the fiction and occasional video-game is about the only way I've ever interacted with or wanted to interact with battletech, so...meh to the rest. Probly won't even listen to my inner completionist to get the other hardcovers of the series until/unless I can get them used at a discount since I've still got the old paperbacks and what they're charging on the books ($15 hardcovers, $25 signed nicer) seems a little steep to me even if realistically not being too bad objectively.
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Wait, there was a FedCom Civil War???
 
Typhonis said:
Wait, there was a FedCom Civil War???
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And an entire source book...
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Typhonis said:
Wait, there was a FedCom Civil War???
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Shhhh, Hanse, darling, are you alright? We thought we'd lost you for a moment. ... Yes, Victor is back home and doing fine. You'll have all the time in the world to teach him how to rule. ... Katherine? Oh, we found a new therapist for her, and NAIS has some experimental drugs in the pipeline that should help with her condition. ... A FedCom Civil War? What a weird nightmare to have, darling. Now, take a rest, and don't forget your doctor's appointment. The kids and the realm still need you. ...

:confused:;)
 
My opinion: the setting went off the rails once they kept the Clans as major powers after Tukkayid. The writers were so enamored with their furry-totem eugenic murder hobos that they literally wrote the universe around them to ignore the obvious shortfalls of the whole setup. The occupation zones of those chucklefucks should have all collapsed under their own weight by the mid 3060s, turning the Clans into near Periphery raiders at best. Instead they somehow prospered and now have taken over not only half the IS but also half the interesting parts of the Deep Periphery. Yuck.
 
Culsu said:
Shhhh, Hanse, darling, are you alright? We thought we'd lost you for a moment. ... Yes, Victor is back home and doing fine. You'll have all the time in the world to teach him how to rule. ... Katherine? Oh, we found a new therapist for her, and NAIS has some experimental drugs in the pipeline that should help with her condition. ... A FedCom Civil War? What a weird nightmare to have, darling. Now, take a rest, and don't forget your doctor's appointment. The kids and the realm still need you. ...

:confused:;)
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Aka Hanse being in a medical coma for a few months post Victor finding him or more likely his staff not dropping the ball
 
To get a bit of catchup on the whole mess, r/BattleTech has had a strict no-politics policy since its inception which has served it well in keeping down the drama.

When pride month started fans spammed the LGBTQ anthology, along with a lot of other pride stuff like an entire LGBTQ-themed regiment the poster said they weren't going to play with, they just wanted to trigger conservatives. This was taken down by the mods for being political.

In response, Catalyst Games started another subReddit, r/OfficialBattleTech, which promised to be more inclusive. While it would seem to be a schism in the works, the story gets stranger. The owner of r/BattleTech, one of those people who officially owns the forums but never posts or looks at it, suddenly reappeared and stated that trans stuff was not political at all, but excluding them was. He then banned the entire mod staff and removed the rule about politics from r/BatteTech.

The combined events have resulted in such a firestorm both reddits have gone dark and blocked anyone from seeing posts, becoming vetted-member-only.

I've tried to find some videos but it looks like they're being hit as fast as they go up.
 
Culsu said:
:rolleyes:
I'll be fair and give those stories a try, but the whole brouhahaa around it has already pissed me off. Of all the things a BTech story should be about, who you bang and who you think should bang you is astronomically low on my list of priorities...
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At least unless it's a Canopus focused story then it makes a tad more sense. But even then....
 
Bear Ribs said:
To get a bit of catchup on the whole mess, r/BattleTech has had a strict no-politics policy since its inception which has served it well in keeping down the drama.

When pride month started fans spammed the LGBTQ anthology, along with a lot of other pride stuff like an entire LGBTQ-themed regiment the poster said they weren't going to play with, they just wanted to trigger conservatives. This was taken down by the mods for being political.

In response, Catalyst Games started another subReddit, r/OfficialBattleTech, which promised to be more inclusive. While it would seem to be a schism in the works, the story gets stranger. The owner of r/BattleTech, one of those people who officially owns the forums but never posts or looks at it, suddenly reappeared and stated that trans stuff was not political at all, but excluding them was. He then banned the entire mod staff and removed the rule about politics from r/BatteTech.

The combined events have resulted in such a firestorm both reddits have gone dark and blocked anyone from seeing posts, becoming vetted-member-only.

I've tried to find some videos but it looks like they're being hit as fast as they go up.
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sigh Another perfect example that this Grooming Cult shit just contaminates and destroys anything it touches.
 
Bear Ribs said:
To get a bit of catchup on the whole mess, r/BattleTech has had a strict no-politics policy since its inception which has served it well in keeping down the drama.
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I'm going to point out here that r/BattleTech's no-politics policy is very weirdly defined as saying that anything post-1988 is politics and prohibited, while anything pre-1988 is history and permitted.
 
ShadowArxxy said:
I'm going to point out here that r/BattleTech's no-politics policy is very weirdly defined as saying that anything post-1988 is politics and prohibited, while anything pre-1988 is history and permitted.
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I'm not sure what's weird about that, every "no politics" policy I've ever seen has some kind of dividing line so that pedants can't claim your meme about Pharoah or George Washington are political. Most put the line arbitrarily somewhere to avoid flamewars over Current Thing while allowing historical chatter.

In this case, 1988 is explicitly where the Battletech timeline diverges from real life (the game itself was first published in 1984) so it's a very logical position to draw the line.
 
The fact that they made the anthology free is telling, it's a virtue signal they expected to lose money on, so it's best to make it free so they look good by not sinking much money into it. Worse, they've used the reaction as a cudgel to affect the takeover of a few fan groups on Reddit.

And in some idiocy I saw online...



I hate to tell them something, but Battletech at it's heart is a wargame. Something that big and that garish on a table is going to *draw fire* and the owner of said 'Mechs is going to whine about it. Well, dude don't show up with a 'Mech that is a) an eyesore, and b) a color or series of colors that's going to draw my eyes to it faster than you can say "pop up target."
 
TBF an Atlas with a rainbow shoulder or a merc company with a rainbow emblem would be fine.

But yeah most those look kinda crap. Like someone put a lot of work into making something look bad. If you just do a quick spray of 1 color or don't paint it it would look better.

Hell if someone purposefully painted a 100 tonner or heavily armored mech a bright color to explicitly draw fire I would accept a Barbie pink or similarly obnoxious design.

The problem is it is hitting people over the head with your politics. It is trying to say battletech is for everyone except those who don't support my politics.
 
Blasterbot said:
TBF an Atlas with a rainbow shoulder or a merc company with a rainbow emblem would be fine.

But yeah most those look kinda crap. Like someone put a lot of work into making something look bad. If you just do a quick spray of 1 color or don't paint it it would look better.

Hell if someone purposefully painted a 100 tonner or heavily armored mech a bright color to explicitly draw fire I would accept a Barbie pink or similarly obnoxious design.

The problem is it is hitting people over the head with your politics. It is trying to say battletech is for everyone except those who don't support my politics.
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I wouldn't care either about the aforementioned patch or shoulder. It would certainly be less garish. I agree, it's an awful paint job, but I am not a great painter either (for the record, so-so). But you're right. I know what I will do when confronted by this, take my toys and play elsewhere.
 
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