Megadeath
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I think it was an ironic suggestion, intended because it hampers them and makes nice easy targets.
Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)
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Ryan McBeth, the former armored infantryman NCO turned OSINT guy did an analysis of the uncensored video on his Substack which is free to see for two weeks or whatever.
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Said it was likely Ukrainian Marines, not Special Forces, storming a more recently made trench.
He was more concerned with analysing supposed war crimes that people have alleged occurred within the video. Of which he saw nothing in violation. Shooting unarmed soldiers in combat and double tapping felled soldiers soon after isn't illegal. And if your a journalist, if you pick up a weapon you are in fact then a lawful combatant.
Was this Trench Attack a War Crime?
If they are worth shooting once, they are worth shooting twice.
ryanmcbeth.substack.com
Said it was likely Ukrainian Marines, not Special Forces, storming a more recently made trench.
He was more concerned with analysing supposed war crimes that people have alleged occurred within the video. Of which he saw nothing in violation. Shooting unarmed soldiers in combat and double tapping felled soldiers soon after isn't illegal. And if your a journalist, if you pick up a weapon you are in fact then a lawful combatant.
Yup. It's soldiers doing this, not policemen, they have no obligation to act like policemen (and softie modern western ones at that), no matter how some screeching bleeding hearts (and some further tactical screeching bleeding hearts) imply it. If such a rule existed and was applied consistently, attacking rear areas of the enemy with long range weapons would be effectively illegal, as most enemy soldiers there would not carry weapons on them at all times.Ryan McBeth, the former armored infantryman NCO turned OSINT guy did an analysis of the uncensored video on his Substack which is free to see for two weeks or whatever.
Was this Trench Attack a War Crime?
If they are worth shooting once, they are worth shooting twice.
Said it was likely Ukrainian Marines, not Special Forces, storming a more recently made trench.
He was more concerned with analysing supposed war crimes that people have alleged occurred within the video. Of which he saw nothing in violation. Shooting unarmed soldiers in combat and double tapping felled soldiers soon after isn't illegal. And if your a journalist, if you pick up a weapon you are in fact then a lawful combatant.
I would point out that centralized storage is a historically proven method of maintaining security against both internal and external threats. I mean, it's not as if the Japanese could actually directly attack Pearl Harbor with conventional military forces, the major concern out there is spies and saboteurs.
Western police actually use much more aggressive rules of engagement than infantry typically do, based on the idea that police have legal immunity for all good-faith actions and have broad discretion to disregard standing orders and operational procedures if they feel there is any danger to themselves. Soldiers are not employees (as legally defined), and are generally required to follow orders regardless of danger.
Infantry in western COIN ops definitely could get very strict with rules of engagement for "optics" reasons, however it is the choice if their leadership, as LOAC do not mandate them to be anywhere near as strict.
Yes, but that's a command decision, whereas with police, "Hey, I felt threatened by this totally unarmed guy, because, uh, he looked aggressive!!" is totally a valid reason for disregarding orders essentially at will. Never mind the rules on collateral damage...
Stupid comparison anyways.
We're talking about double tapping fools and shooting unarmed combatants. Not choking out drug addicts. The Ukrainian Marines aren't going to get a tribunal reviewing whether the shooting was legitimate or not whilst placed on administrative leave like a cop would at the bare minimum in the case of shooting an unarmed uhhh combatant lol.
I can't recall any cases of a random cop shooting someone... pausing... and then double and triple tapping their unmoving body just to make sure. Maybe it's super common.
I'm sure we can get gaslit with some random articles/arguments to further derail the conversation though about how policing Portland is like.... comparable to Bakhmut or Stalingrad or something.
We're talking about double tapping fools and shooting unarmed combatants. Not choking out drug addicts. The Ukrainian Marines aren't going to get a tribunal reviewing whether the shooting was legitimate or not whilst placed on administrative leave like a cop would at the bare minimum in the case of shooting an unarmed uhhh combatant lol.
I can't recall any cases of a random cop shooting someone... pausing... and then double and triple tapping their unmoving body just to make sure. Maybe it's super common.
I'm sure we can get gaslit with some random articles/arguments to further derail the conversation though about how policing Portland is like.... comparable to Bakhmut or Stalingrad or something.
Fair point. That's always been in the rules of war; a combatant who is merely unarmed and/or retreating is not deemed a surrender. Surrender has to be explicitly communicated, and it isn't in that case.
Edit: Note that while raised arms and/or a white flag are the most common means of indicating surrender, there's no *specific* requirement for them.
The pause is the key point here -- police procedure in high stress situations tends to be de facto "empty the magazine then pause to assess while reloading", so the "cold blooded" double tap doesn't happen.
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Russians going to blame American mosquito drones for spreading malaria amongst Russian forces now, instead of some hydrological event that might've occurred recently.
King Arts
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Anyone got a translation for what they were yelling?
They were reportedly yelling for them to surrender before chucking out the grenades. There was a cut in the film there IIRC.
You have no idea about the US Biolabs in Ukraine do you?
We were on the verge of greatness. We were this close!
Pandemic spreading birds. Diseases that could target specific ethnicities. Drone deployed temperate climate malaria mosquitos.
All gone now... Like tears in the
TheRejectionist
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Just a reminder : the research of the China flu was backed by American dollars given to Fauci.
So it wouldn't surprise me D.C. financed them over there as well.
It's cover for the disease spread caused by the lack of water going into Crimea and the Kherson region after they blew the dam.
Because all sorts of nasty bugs have been running wild in the Russian trenches since the dam blew, and the Russians effectively cut off their own fresh water supply to their troops in the south.
Bruh this new Ford F-350 (Fake) Commercial. It's towing an M777 155mm Howitzer.
At least the civilian industrial complex is getting some well desired recognition.
At least the civilian industrial complex is getting some well desired recognition.
Skallagrim
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It's wet enough, and in summer, certainly warm enough. We used to see "swamp fever" (malaria) ubiquitously in the Netherlands -- also very much North of the Tropics. It persisted until the early 20th century, which is when the inpoldering was completed and the country's swampy nature finally came to an end.
It's fucking retarded as a weapon of war; if you're going to use bio-weapons, I can think of countless superior ones, but malaria could thrive in the Ukrainian summer. In marshy enough locations, that is.
Like, for instance, an area largely flooded and turned into a massive swamp after some asshole blew up a big dam.
(To be clear: I'm not implying that the claim about this, uh "malaria-bomb" is true. I think it's utter nonsense.)
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Surprised it wasn't a Toyota
Edit: also if Fords marketing department had any sense they'd use this for advertising
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