Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

[Agent23]

Vehicles other than trains can also use train bridges

*cough*cough* Armored combat trains were a thing. *cough*cough*
Humor aside, we have these things:

Allegedly they were of some use during WWII as well,and in both the Russian civil war and in the 2nd world war they were quite useful, with some even claiming that they won the commies the Civil War.

Guess the Ukrainians might try and LARP that aspect of the USSR's wars as well, since they are already using shtrafbats, takchankas, and they have apparently dragged a few old Tommy guns out of storage.

Anyway, that aside, back to the social aspects of this military confrontation, Peter Schiff has the "audacity" to make a minor criticism of Saint Zelenskii of the Church of Our Mother of All Spergouts and gets flamed massively, with nasty articles attacking him, false reports, lots of virtue-signalling and death threats going to his mail:


The moment the Ukrainians lose is going to be more glorious than 2016, and Zelenski's every move and his appearance are very carefully choreographed in order to make him more appealing.
IMHO Schiff's critique of the situation, while not as direct, is spot on.

 

[Whitestrake Pelinal]

So, I'm sorry to bother you here but I just want to verify that you in fact believe that Russians have suffered less than 1,500 killed in Ukraine since the "special" invasion began. I know you literally just said that but it's pretty incredible to me so I wanted to say it in different words and have it reconfirmed if you don't mind.

There's nothing incredible about it, Russia got the element of surprise and broke up the UkA into a bunch of disconnected chunks, while also achieving air superiority. Consequently, while the UkA is capable and willing, their ability to engage in large scale organized attacks is limited... and Russia is able to withdraw injured soldiers for proper treatment.

The estimates I have heard are higher, over two thousand, but anywhere in that ballpark is plausible.

 

[BlackDragon98]

Well they certainly aren't going to be selling new domestic production:



On the other hand I've got a feeling Russian military equipment is going to be in lower demand in the near future.

This one is complete Ukrop fascist propaganda.
Did a quick google and one result came up.
The result cited a Ukrainian high command "report".

Like I said, OSINT is a bunch of randos jumping around a pile of sand, calling it gold dust.

 

[Zachowon]

This one is complete Ukrop fascist propaganda.
Did a quick google and one result came up.
The result cited a Ukrainian high command "report".

Like I said, OSINT is a bunch of randos jumping around a pile of sand, calling it gold dust.

And is there any sources debunking it?
Because I can tell you.
OSINT is doing a better job then a wanna be like you who seems to enjoy being on thoer knees.

Did the article show its source? Did the Ukrainian intle how its source?

I mean more OSINT supports Ukainre, which means you hate it.
If OSINT supported Russia you wouldn't be claiming it

 

[BlackDragon98]

And is there any sources debunking it?
Because I can tell you.
OSINT is doing a better job then a wanna be like you who seems to enjoy being on thoer knees.

Did the article show its source? Did the Ukrainian intle how its source?

I mean more OSINT supports Ukainre, which means you hate it.
If OSINT supported Russia you wouldn't be claiming it

OSINT isn't supporting Ukraine.

OSINT is using a Ukrainian gov/military source, which is inevitably going to be biased.

That pretty much goes against the concept of OSINT.

But I can understand.

You must simp for the NWO because they hold your paycheck in their hands.

Just remember to blink when they order you to shoot American protestors!

 

[Zachowon]

OSINT isn't supporting Ukraine.

OSINT is using a Ukrainian gov/military source, which is inevitably going to be biased.

That pretty much goes against the concept of OSINT.

But I can understand.

You must simp for the NWO because they hold your paycheck in their hands.

Just remember to blink when they order you to shoot American protestors!

OSINT uses what ever it can.
Most OSINT supports the Ukrainians over the Russians

 

[bintananth]

The US estimates are also low confidence because casualties can mean various things

During the US Civil War it was 6 missing, wounded, or captured for everyone killed during a battle with 2-3 more killed by disease.

 

[Vaermina]

OSINT isn't supporting Ukraine.

OSINT is using a Ukrainian gov/military source, which is inevitably going to be biased.

That pretty much goes against the concept of OSINT.

But I can understand.

You must simp for the NWO because they hold your paycheck in their hands.

Just remember to blink when they order you to shoot American protestors!

Guess who's not using Ukrainian gov/military sources?

That's right, Oryx.

Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine

www.oryxspioenkop.com

 

[Zachowon]

You literally ruined your point.

By favoring the Ukrops over the Russkies, they are adding bias into their publications.

Which makes them sus.

@Agent23 is right about something. Your helmet has definitely been used to clean one too many toilet bowls.

That's why your arguments stink.


The TB2 fanboy?

He's rather pro Ukrainian even though he doesn't use Ukrop sources.

He just pretends to be neutral. At the end of the day, him and the rest of OSINT are just Ukrop shills.

Just like those TikTokers that got invited to the White House.

All are just cogs in Klaus Schwab's almighty propaganda machine: DIE NEUE GOEBBELS!

OSINT supports Ukraine because it happens to be what is being shown.
Russia is suffering and they have yet to show they are actually going to win

 

[planefag]

Says the shill screeching about the "Ghost of Kiev" and "the 13 of Snake Island".

It will never, ever cease to amuse me how assblasted you copenicks are over the idea that some Flanker driver could bag four helicopters and two Frogfoots on a day when there were fifty of them zipping around, most likely more. It's not that hard to zoom around on the deck and pop a heater off at whatever flies in front of your nose when they're everywhere lmao

 

[History Learner]

From 15 hours ago...

So a picture with a claim with zero supporting evidence, such as footage from the TB2 itself which the Ukrainians were putting out until recently and now has suddenly stopped putting out?

 

[History Learner]

It will never, ever cease to amuse me how assblasted you copenicks are over the idea that some Flanker driver could bag four helicopters and two Frogfoots on a day when there were fifty of them zipping around, most likely more. It's not that hard to zoom around on the deck and pop a heater off at whatever flies in front of your nose when they're everywhere lmao

Then let’s see the evidence for it, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence which suspiciously is never presented for the “Ghost” myth even as The Kyiv Independent was recently claiming he had bagged 49(!) kills.

Acting like we should automatically believe the claims of the side that has lied the whole step of the way, most obviously in the case of Snake Island, because something is theoretically possible is just being a shill.

 

[Terthna]

Then let’s see the evidence for it, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence which suspiciously is never presented for the “Ghost” myth even as The Kyiv Independent was recently claiming he had bagged 49(!) kills.

Acting like we should automatically believe the claims of the side that has lied the whole step of the way, most obviously in the case of Snake Island, because something is theoretically possible is just being a shill.

I think we can safely assume that everyone who knows anything is lying at this point; it is a war after all, and the first causality is always the truth.

 

[BlackDragon98]

It will never, ever cease to amuse me how assblasted you copenicks are over the idea that some Flanker driver could bag four helicopters and two Frogfoots on a day when there were fifty of them zipping around, most likely more. It's not that hard to zoom around on the deck and pop a heater off at whatever flies in front of your nose when they're everywhere lmao

Because the S-400s annihilated them.

Russian S-400s have scored at least 2-5 UkAF fighter kills.

 

[Zachowon]

Because the S-400s annihilated them.

Russian S-400s have scored at least 2-5 UkAF fighter kills.

Do we have evidence of that?
And 2-5.
That is not a lot of kills for what is regarded as the best AD in the world

 

[Husky_Khan]

So a picture with a claim with zero supporting evidence, such as footage from the TB2 itself which the Ukrainians were putting out until recently and now has suddenly stopped putting out?

Most of the footage of the TB2's was shown weeks ago due to apparent leaks with only a few videos coming out over the past few weeks.



Last time footage was released on March 19th AFAIK and that wasn't a strike by the drone itself and it just seems to happen every few days anyhow.

 

[sillygoose]

Do we have evidence of that?
And 2-5.
That is not a lot of kills for what is regarded as the best AD in the world

Given how few sorties are claimed by the UkAF that isn't too unbelievable.

 

[BlackDragon98]

Do we have evidence of that?
And 2-5.
That is not a lot of kills for what is regarded as the best AD in the world

Given the operational rate for the UkAF, that's pretty much all the planes they managed to scramble before the missile barrage came down.

 

[Agent23]

Given the operational rate for the UkAF, that's pretty much all the planes they managed to scramble before the missile barrage came down.

OR deserted.

 

[D4rk0w1]

So,Mighty russian army still could not capture Mariunpol,even after using thermobaric weapons.Pathetic.
And they captured lieutnant.Great victory,indeed.

It seems,that they would fight till next year,if their advance would be as rapid as they are now.
Is it only me,or Putin is leading his army to ensure that both Ukraine and russian army cease to exist ?

My country took 5 months to end the Siege of Marawi, this is with Australian, American and Israeli intelligence assistance with Singaporean Logistic support which is my frame of reference on capturing cities. Also we have total Air superiority on that too hence if the Russian took it in less than a month I will still consider it impressive.

This entire conflict really gave me a lot new perspective on how fast a war could develop.