Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

[Agent23]

Important question! Did Zelensky have the beard at the start of this? I am not sure if he did before and I just happened to have glossed over it or if he has only just started to do so.

He is probably growing it for dramatic effect, or maybe he is trying to improve the show by "growing the beard", Riker-style.

Also, friendly reminder for all the Ukraine fanbois out there, you are supporting this and Zelenski is a retard and an oligarch puppet, his overlord care only about power and money:


And here is the whole panel with Mearsheimer I linked to:



Some key points here:
- For Russia this is an existential threat.
- Nationalism will enable them to withstand a lot more than the West thinks they can withstand.
- The USA/West is willing to fight "to the last Ukrainian"
- The big loser here is Ukraine, that got led up the garden path, which I guess is like leading a pig to the slaughter.
- NATO/USA made this problem, Putin's remarks were taken out of context and he most certainly doesn't want to restore the USSR.
- Brandon is a moron and his party will be ousted.

Also, this video ending up in my feed, despite the search not finding it when I typed in Mearsheimer's name a few times proves another thing, big tech is hurting, and they have decided to limit their initial support for the Ukrainians.
IMO it was shadow banned and now they are seeing real damage to their interests and are pulling back.
Or maybe all the anti-Indian rhetoric pissed off Pichai, dunno.

 

[Marduk]

The hard core trouble makers go into camps Comrade and there they will be put to productive use chopping wood.

But who is going to put them there? War crimes don't commit themselves...
Who?

Collaborators are found and they become the new security services.

Great a way to stock your security services with enemy agents by the way.

Russian Soldiers who have family members in Ukraine will be stationed close to their Ukrainian Family members and if unmarried, told to marry a Ukrainian Cousin of theirs.

Hey, i understand creative ways to tell off Russia are popular here, but telling them to turn into Sweet Home Pakistan goes a bit too far.

 

[Agent23]

But who is going to put them there? War crimes don't commit themselves...
Who?

Great a way to stock your security services with enemy agents by the way.


Hey, i understand creative ways to tell off Russia are popular here, but telling them to turn into Sweet Home Pakistan goes a bit too far.

There you go, indulging in wishful thinking again,

First off, the Americans and the EU have consistently shown themselves to look weak and stupid, and all the highly publicized Chechen ISIS-like stunts will probably drive out much of what is the pro-Ukrainian population out of the DNR, LNR and what was previously Eastern and Southern Ukraine.

Two, the USA has been aiding insurgents in Syria, how well has it gone for them thus far?

Asad is still standing?

Three, between Chechnya and Syria the Russians now have a lot of anti-insurgency experience.

Four, the Zelenski regime is extremely corrupt, it has jailed opposition leaders, blocked opposition TV stations and as per CRP, it has been murdering and abducting pro-Russian/pro-surrender political figures:





Intel Slava Z

Another friendly reminder, this is who you are supporting:


Oh, nevermind, they will be headquartered in the Rump State around Lovov in short order, so you will have the pleasure to see them in action first hand, and with all of that shiny military tech you gave them, too.

 

[Marduk]

There you go, indulging in wishful thinking again,

First off, the Americans and the EU have consistently shown themselves to look weak and stupid, and all the highly publicized Chechen ISIS-like stunts will probably drive out much of what is the pro-Ukrainian population out of the DNR, LNR and what was previously Eastern and Southern Ukraine.

Luckily for them, American and EU governments aren't giving orders to the ground, the combat lawyers are probably crying.
Ukrainians are fighting it, and out of all people you are the first to believe that they are willing and able to do their own stunts, while there are more of them than there are Chechens.

Two, the USA has been aiding insurgents in Syria, how well has it gone for them thus far?

Arab army vs Arab insurgents...

Three, between Chechnya and Syria the Russians now have a lot of anti-insurgency experience.

In small countries. Ukraine is not one. I'm not saying they don't know how to suppress an insurgency, i'm saying they may not have enough resources to deal with one this big.

Four, the Zelenski regime is extremely corrupt, it has jailed opposition leaders, blocked opposition TV stations and as per CRP, it has been murdering and abducting pro-Russian/pro-surrender political figures:

LMAO...
Ukraine is at war, even western allies did intern those who shilled for the other side too much.

Oh, nevermind, they will be headquartered in the Rump State around Lovov in short order, so you will have the pleasure to see them in action first hand, and with all of that shiny military tech you gave them, too.

MUH AZOV!!!
Dude, can you stop being a living embodiment of the Ukraine bingo?

 

[Agent23]

*REEEE*

Yeah, no, that is just pointless gibberish and but muh whataboutism.
Cnsidering that you have been deepthroating Ukrainian propaganda left and right your comments are a fucking joke.
THE ZELENSKI REGIME IS JAILING AND MURDERING AND SILENCING ITS OPPOSITION, IT DID SO BEFORE THE WAR EVEN STARTED!

Keep crying!

Duran livestream:


Colonem McGregor on Fox news:
"Zelenski is a puppet"

 

[Batrix2070]

Dude, can you stop being a living embodiment of the Ukraine bingo?

And where is the opinion generator as we say in our country a typical Russian troll? Practically this Bulgarian has exhausted all possible combinations

 

[Marduk]

Yeah, no, that is just pointless gibberish and but muh whataboutism.

Look who's talking about whataboutism.
MUH AZOV!!!

Cnsidering that you have been deepthroating Ukrainian propaganda left and right your comments are a fucking joke.

Guess you prefer deepthroating Russian propaganda, its bigger and fatter.

THE ZELENSKI REGIME IS JAILING AND MURDERING AND SILENCING ITS OPPOSITION, IT DID SO BEFORE THE WAR EVEN STARTED!

Lol...
Find me a country that tolerates treason, and you will probably point at a country that you previously mocked for tolerating treason.

Keep crying!

No u.

Duran livestream:


Colonem McGregor on Fox news:
"Zelenski is a puppet"

Yeah, i know, the bingo is very easy to play with the "skeptical" coverage of this war.

 

[Agent23]

And where is the opinion generator as we say in our country a typical Russian troll? Practically this Bulgarian has exhausted all possible combinations

Nice bit of Polish nationalist solidarity reeing there, care to try some non-bullshit counter-arguments, armored birdboy?
You'd think that you'd keep your head down after I made you admit that your Russophobia is basically driven by the fact that on a civilizational level you feel butthurt because polan played the game and lost massively, then the easy pickings of the 16th century basically squashed your fantasies for a Great Polish Empire.

Geez, we were under the Turk far longer than you were under Russia, and they treated us far worse, they almost genocided us, they have a sizable Turkish political machine here that tries to play kingmaker and we do not hate them as much as you hate Dem Darned Russkies.
We are wonderful neighbors in comparison to you and the Russians, and that animosity is probably your deed!

BTW, every time I see you avatar I get an urge to go to KFC and order some fried wings, even though I fucking hate separating the juicy bits from all the cartridge and bone.
Seriously, breast and even leg are better value for money.

Look who's talking about whataboutism.
MUH AZOV!!!

Guess you prefer deepthroating Russian propaganda, its bigger and fatter.

Lol...
Find me a country that tolerates treason, and you will probably point at a country that you previously mocked for tolerating treason.

No u.

Yeah, i know, the bingo is very easy to play with the "skeptical" coverage of this war.

On the right we see yours and armored chicken boy's view of reality, vs the actual reality on the left.

 

[Marduk]

Nice bit of Polish nationalist solidarity reeing there, care to try some non-bullshit counter-arguments, armored birdboy?
You'd think that you'd keep your head down after I made you admit that your Russophobia is basically driven by the fact that on a civilizational level you feel butthurt because polan played the game and lost massively, then the easy pickings of the 16th century basically squashed your fantasies for a Great Polish Empire.

Geez, we were under the Turk far longer than you were under Russia, and they treated us far worse, they almost genocided us, they have a sizable Turkish political machine here that tries to play kingmaker and we do not hate them as much as you hate Dem Darned Russkies.
We are wonderful neighbors in comparison to you and the Russians, and that animosity is probably your deed!

BTW, every time I see you avatar I get an urge to go to KFC and order some fried wings, even though I fucking hate separating the juicy bits from all the cartridge and bone.
Seriously, breast and even leg are better value for money.


On the right we see yours and armored chicken boy's view of reality, vs the actual reality on the left.

Fuck off dog spinner.

 

[Batrix2070]

You'd think that you'd keep your head down after I made you admit that your Russophobia is basically driven by the fact that on a civilizational level you feel butthurt because polan played the game and lost massively, then the easy pickings of the 16th century basically squashed your fantasies for a Great Polish Empire.

Well, I agreed with you that we have a large Russophobia and that we have the desire to be an empire again, but that doesn't mean I agreed with you, I just pounced on it and went to bed because I was tired.
I don't give a fuck about your friendship with Turk, it's just that your country is honestly meaningless in the wider world so no one cares, you don't have the strength to fight anyone while we do.
And Russia was, is and will be our rival, according to the geography. If Bulgaria gained strength again, your friendship with the Turk would disappear and be replaced by turcophobia, and all the old wrongs would return again.
We lost, well it's hard, now the situation is turning around, the Russkies have lost and gone back to square one and are trying to rebuild the empire why can't we make sure that doesn't happen? And if by chance we gain something from it, you know, just by chance. This is not the first time we have lost our relevance and then regained it.

BTW, every time I see you avatar I get an urge to go to KFC and order some fried wings, even though I fucking hate separating the juicy bits from all the cartridge and bone.
Seriously, breast and even leg are better value for money.

and do what you want, if you get a taste it's good, give more money to the imperialists of the West!


Edit If Poland wants to be independent, Russia must be weak and insignificant. Of course Germany is too, but it is easier to compete with one of them and not with two at the same time.

 

[Agent23]

Fuck off dog spinner.

Not giving YT my personal info, and that video is age restricted.
Care to try again!

Well, I agreed with you that we have a large Russophobia and that we have the desire to be an empire again, but that doesn't mean I agreed with you, I just pounced on it and went to bed because I was tired.
I don't give a fuck about your friendship with Turk, it's just that your country is honestly meaningless in the wider world so no one cares, you don't have the strength to fight anyone while we do.
And Russia was, is and will be our rival, according to the geography. If Bulgaria gained strength again, your friendship with the Turk would disappear and be replaced by turcophobia, and all the old wrongs would return again.
We lost, well it's hard, now the situation is turning around, the Russkies have lost and gone back to square one and are trying to rebuild the empire why can't we make sure that doesn't happen? And if by chance we gain something from it, you know, just by chance. This is not the first time we have lost our relevance and then regained it.

We are by no means friends with the Turks, tbh, but we do have a sort of Modus Vivendi.
Also, among all our neighbors they were funnily enough the only one that didn't backstab us during the Balkan wars.

BTW, all trolling and jokes about ethnicity aside, you are a hell of a lot more realist-minded than the other Pole keyboard crusader.

 

[Batrix2070]

lot more realist-minded than the other Pole keyboard crusader.

I'm guessing you mean ATP? Yes I know, I've met him before under my fic, he was quite reasonable there and gave good ideas. But he sometimes has his moments, but know that his opinion is not rare at all and in Poland is quite justified. He just doesn't explain it too well, treating some things as obvious for everyone.

 

[Agent23]

I'm guessing you mean ATP? Yes I know, I've met him before under my fic, he was quite reasonable there and gave good ideas. But he sometimes has his moments, but know that his opinion is not rare at all and in Poland is quite justified. He just doesn't explain it too well, treating some things as obvious for everyone.

Nah, ATP is a cool guy, even if he is a bit obsessed with religious matters and the alleged KGBMafia, and very idealistic, I am talking about Marduk.

 

[Marduk]

Not giving YT my personal info, and that video is age restricted.
Care to try again!

Ok, fuck off technologically illiterate dog spinner.

 

[Agent23]

Ok, fuck off technologically illiterate dog spinner.

You and the Amerikanski keep projecting your weird fetishes and aspirations on other cultures and countries, first you claim Ukraine is free and democratic, now you try to pin us this wierdness, which I have never heard of before, onto my country.

You sure it isn't something from Romania or Macedonia or Kosovo province of Serbia, I know it is hard for you to tell us apart?

P.S. I actually work in tech, and a guy who can't into the difference between websocket and TCP socket lecturing me about technical acumen is always entertaining.

EDIT: At this rate we will need a separate thread, no a seperate subforum, to contain all the Slav-specific shenanigans, cross-tribal insults, slav stereotypes and trolling.

 

[Marduk]

You and the Amerikanski keep projecting your weird fetishes and aspirations on other cultures and countries, first you claim Ukraine is free and democratic, now you try to pin us this wierdness, which I have never heard of before, onto my country.

Dog spinning - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

P.S. I actually work in tech, and a guy who can't into the difference between websocket and TCP socket lecturing me about technical acumen is always entertaining.

Then surely you know several ways of going around silly YT age restriction without giving it your personal data.

 

[posh-goofiness]

P.S. I actually work in tech, and a guy who can't into the difference between websocket and TCP socket lecturing me about technical acumen is always entertaining.

EDIT: At this rate we will need a separate thread, no a seperate subforum, to contain all the Slav-specific shenanigans, cross-tribal insults, slav stereotypes and trolling.

Edits made me giggle.

 

[Agent23]

Dog spinning - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Oh, lol, obscure ritual once upon a time practiced in one village...
Good job, are you going to call all Amerikanski incestuous because a few people in alabama might have married their 2nd cousins, or 1st cousins or sisters.
I would search for some equally silly and obscure ritual in Birdpeoplestan, but I am too lazy and don't give enough of a shit.

Then surely you know several ways of going around silly YT age restriction without giving it your personal data.

See above

...but I am too lazy and don't give enough of a shit.

yeah, TL;DR, I mostly post here when:
On the treadmill.
In between and during CS/Quake rounds, you in particular are the reason I have died many a time.

At least 'poshel na hui' has been added to the list of slavic insults you can hear during a CS;GO round now, skua blyad and kurva and u pichku ti materinu were getting stale, and that is a form of Ukrainian national recognition.

EDIT: Oops. sorry, @LTR you missed one, you also might wnat to add 'slav dick measuring' and CS:GO to that thread name.

 

[Agent23]

Edits made me giggle.

Lol, I wrote 'can't into' on pure reflex...

 

[Agent23]

Odessa's fall means US Chip Manufacturing is Kaput

Neon is separated out of regular air.
I doubt the process is that complex, tbh, it will probably take time to build up production capacity.
It is not rare earth, though.