Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Life just isn't fair for the ruling class when things don't go their way directing their country and proxies but if one of them had a crystal ball they'd be the winner of the cold war.
Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)
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Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
I read my sources off site. I'm waiting for the conclusion of the war to see what's really going on.No one reporting on the Kalibr missile strike rumoured to have killed many senior Ukrainian officers?
Dozens of Ukrainian officers killed in missile strike – Russia
More than 50 senior Ukrainian commanders were killed in a missile strike, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Sundaywww.rt.com
paulobrito
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The funny thing is - all reports back from 'volunteers/ western mercenaries in Ukraine' are the same - war is hell, much different from any of the low-intensity/COIN they are involved in before, and Ukraine is not winning by a wide margin.
Also if you discount the US and its vassals, no country passed sanctions on Russia, so that joke that Russia is isolated is only that - a joke.
Economically speaking about the sanctions - the EU is hit much harder than Russia, but ideology/obeying your masters is more important that the life of your people so...
Also if you discount the US and its vassals, no country passed sanctions on Russia, so that joke that Russia is isolated is only that - a joke.
Economically speaking about the sanctions - the EU is hit much harder than Russia, but ideology/obeying your masters is more important that the life of your people so...
France would win if USA only delivered more planes - but they choosed to bet when Dien Bien Phu fall.Even then Emperor Bao would keep South Vietnam safe,so CIA exiled him.Then they killed president who could stop commies.And then leaved South Vietnam to die.
That was no war to fight commies,but to help them.Becouse one of that fact mean mistake,3 mean helping commies.
kgbstan was supposed to win in week.Now they fight only in Donbas.
And UE is hit becouse of green madness and Berlin alliance with Moscow.
Remove both,and there would be no problems.
Naturally, the fighting in the east has degenerating to something not even resembling WW2, but WW1 western front. And not just in style, but also the stagnant nature of it.
Or in musical form:
A huge chunk of developed economies falls under that umbrella, and that has consequences. As some were celebrating ironically, and some not, Russia is truly on the way to become the leader of the third world.
Now you flew off into fucking Mars orbit.
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Russia's GDP decline could hit 12.4% this year, economy ministry document shows
Russia expects the economy to contract by 8.8% in 2022 in its base case scenario, or by 12.4% under a more conservative scenario, an economy ministry document showed on Wednesday, further evidence that sanctions pressure is taking its toll.
www.reuters.com
The war in Ukraine is likely to slow global growth, the I.M.F. warns. (Published 2022)
The economic fallout from Russia’s invasion will depend on the outcome of the war and the duration of the sanctions.
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Russian invasion will slow growth and lead to higher energy prices – EU
Lagarde and Donohoe warn of economic consequences to Ukraine crisis
The West will lose part of its GDP growth.
Yeah, right, the west is totally being hit harder than Russia.
paulobrito
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paulobrito
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Naturally, the fighting in the east has degenerating to something not even resembling WW2, but WW1 western front. And not just in style, but also the stagnant nature of it.
Or in musical form:
A huge chunk of developed economies falls under that umbrella, and that has consequences. As some were celebrating ironically, and some not, Russia is truly on the way to become the leader of the third world.
Now you flew off into fucking Mars orbit.
Russia's GDP decline could hit 12.4% this year, economy ministry document shows
Russia expects the economy to contract by 8.8% in 2022 in its base case scenario, or by 12.4% under a more conservative scenario, an economy ministry document showed on Wednesday, further evidence that sanctions pressure is taking its toll.The war in Ukraine is likely to slow global growth, the I.M.F. warns. (Published 2022)
The economic fallout from Russia’s invasion will depend on the outcome of the war and the duration of the sanctions.www.nytimes.com
Russia will lose about an eighth of its GDP due to sanctions. According to Russian experts...Russian invasion will slow growth and lead to higher energy prices – EU
Lagarde and Donohoe warn of economic consequences to Ukraine crisiswww.irishtimes.com
The West will lose part of its GDP growth.
Yeah, right, the west is totally being hit harder than Russia.
I just wait to the next winter and talk to you again. You clearly only see the consequences after they hit you on the face, but that's okay by me. Just remember that right now (summer) the EU is already using the stocks to maintain the current use of gas - hint at this time they are supposed to fill the tanks, not using them.
Make coal great again! Poland, as with anything regarding Russia, was way ahead of everyone, to the protest of the usual suspects.
Poland's Love Affair With Coal: Can the EU Do Anything About It?
[caption id="attachment_2430459" align="aligncenter" width="500"] Polish miners celebrating Barborka, Miners’ Day.[/caption] The Polish government’s strong commitment to coal goes against EU policy direction and against market conditions, write Anna Mikulska of the Baker Institute’s Center for...
energycentral.com
Well, ISIS is against Woke culture just like Putin is, so ...
Anyway:
What a Decade-Old Conflict Tells Us About Putin - The Atlantic
archived 27 May 2022 21:25:43 UTC
PsihoKekec
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This supposedly happened during the fall/liberation of Krasny Liman, Ukrainian commanders forgot to notify the guys from the rearguard they already blown the bridge
paulobrito
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Oh, right. Tell me again, how that is going to help the German industry that needs a lot of gas to work - not coal. Without that, German industry collapsed, and Germany's economy go down - and btw, is the engine of the EU economy, so do the math. Not even talking about how that is possible for all other European countries dependent on Russian gas (and oil and coal).Make coal great again! Poland, as with anything regarding Russia, was way ahead of everyone, to the protest of the usual suspects.
It's a sad day for CO2 number maniacs and other green nutjobs, but they whine all the time anyway.Poland's Love Affair With Coal: Can the EU Do Anything About It?
[caption id="attachment_2430459" align="aligncenter" width="500"] Polish miners celebrating Barborka, Miners’ Day.[/caption] The Polish government’s strong commitment to coal goes against EU policy direction and against market conditions, write Anna Mikulska of the Baker Institute’s Center for...
Please, learn about how much the European economy is dependent on Russian resources before regurgitating propaganda.
Not even talking about the other resources that are critical to so many European industries - that are only competitive in the world game because of cheap Russian energy.
Bottom line - the EU is fucked hard without lube, anyone that thinks otherwise is a deluded/ignorant dreamer.
Oh my, wonder how German industry worked without Russian gas in WW2... Or in the Cold War.
The reliance here is part economic and part voluntary on the basis of green idiocy, not technically necessary. Perhaps Germans can start being pragmatic about their industry again if their retirement funds and home heating get threatened.
As above. It's voluntary, not by necessity. It can be changed, and quicker than you expect.
Again, how did Europe get so rich during the Cold War, when reliance on Soviets would be pretty much unthinkable?
Europe didn't get hooked on Russian gas because it was just so cheap, it got hooked on gas at all because of muh CO2 numbers and Russia was conveniently right there with lots of gas.
paulobrito
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You clearly don't know crap about how much time is necessary to change from russian resources to other ones. And how much that cost to the actual European economy.
Please educate yourself before talking about things you clearly don't understand.
Please educate yourself before talking about things you clearly don't understand.
What's so special about Russian resources? These are resources, not aircraft parts, anyone's do the job.
paulobrito
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They are cheap, plenty, and near. Yes, they can be replaced, but is not easy, takes time (the best estimate is 2 to 5 years, the worst estimate is 5 to 10 years), and costs a lot more.
The joys of Just in Time economies and fully globalization.
For example, replacing Russian gas - which comes via gas pipelines - needs a lot of GPL harbors on both sides and a lot more of GPL ships. That's a lot of investment and takes years to make.
The world market exists, they aren't cheap but at market rates, Russia is not a charity and knows what the global market pricing of all resources is lol, and they are not that "near" economically as transport by land is pretty expensive.
Some countries were already working on that "just in case" since 2014 or even earlier.
paulobrito
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Yeah, right. Is because of that the cost of gas goes from 800€ per million cubic meters (? I'm not sure about the unit of measure, can be other but the value is right) to 1500€ and goes up. And that the EU in the summer is using the tank reserves instead of filling them.
Also, can you tell me the countries in the EU that have 'fixed' that problem? For real, not in political discourses, that value nothing.
Also, can you tell me the countries in the EU that have 'fixed' that problem? For real, not in political discourses, that value nothing.
You mean Iraq 2003? they win war,and lost occupation.kgbstan is unable even to do so.
Making gas from coal.They have technology for that.And if they forget,Japan and Poland have it,too.
kgbstan is gas station with H bombs no needed by anyone by idiot german politicians,who wanted that for political goal - kick off USA from Europe,genocide us again and co-rule for eternity.
Idiots forget,that they have deal with german tsars - becouse sralin planned to backstab them probable before he proposed such alliance.And his Putin fanboy would do the same.
Well,if german leaders were smart,they would win both WW1 and WW2.
paulobrito
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LOL - the Iraq war is a very easy war - something not on the same scale as the Ukrainian one. Any decent student of war knows that.
Making gas from coal - costs how much more than the actual price?
Please - if you can't offer anything more than ideology, stay quiet.
Oh, wait - I forget that's you.
Making gas from coal - costs how much more than the actual price?
Please - if you can't offer anything more than ideology, stay quiet.
Oh, wait - I forget that's you.
As i said, it was always an ideological fancy, not technological necessity. It can be lifted with a stroke of a pen. And in some countries the right pens are already in action.
Netherlands activates energy crisis plan, removes cap on coal plants
The Netherlands on Monday said it would activate the "early warning" phase of an energy crisis plan and lifted a cap on production by coal-fired power plants as it seeks to reduce reliance on Russian gas in the wake of the war in Ukraine.
www.reuters.com
Yes, i know, greens very sad, muh climate catastrophe.
It's being used by such rich technological superpowers like... Indonesia.
Indonesia’s coal gasification plans move forward, despite coal pledge
International companies are developing projects in Indonesia to convert its rich coal deposits into new fuels
chinadialogue.net