That can ruin nations yes, but not that severely. Oh don't get me wrong economic parasitism is bad and hurt the people being exploited, but the Chinese won't be trying to spread homosexual acceptance, or trying to encourage more children to be considered trans and put on puberty blockers, or ending the religion of foreign people. Stuff like active measures is done by people who sincerely believe in it. It's ironically a western thing where it is the religion of people and what they believe and making them be "good" that is important. The Chinese just want to trade with their business partners, they may want leverage, but they don't condemn their arab trade partners for killing gays, or for being sexist, or for being muslim instead of atheists. They don't care if you are like them as long as they are profiting.
That's because Western societies are primarily guilt based, as opposed to shame based. It's a result of the Catholic Church having broken down the clan structures in Europe, in order to hold more power for the Church. Nor does everyone in the West agree with making kids into trannies or forcing gay acceptance onto other cultures. That is primarily driven by the left, in some cases the far left.
Also, imparting cultural moral standards is not threatening world peace. It might threaten local culture, but it's not a threat to world peace.
I can't read minds so I don't know what was inside Bush's mind, but sufficient stupidity can be indistinguishable from malice. Does it really matter why Bush led America to fuck up Iraq, only that he did it without Iraq doing something recently to justify an attack by America. If there was an invasion in Iraq after they invaded in the 90's thats diffrent but you can't use something from 10 years in the past as justification for now.
It was part of a greater response to 9/11. And while we don't know what happened in Bush's head, we saw his policies. Bush tried to turn Iraq into a stable, democratic nation-state, but with various ethno-national groups that were not happy with each other (to say the least). That led to him trying to find someone to unite their people, which lead to him picking the wrong guy, and trying to use him as a compromise ruler. Which required US military power to enforce.
And that went to complete shit when Obama took over, because Obama ended up withdrawing all military and diplomatic support. Which forced the new guy to grow increasingly tyrannical. And all while this was happening, Saudi Arabia was spawning terrorist cells and Iran was forming militant groups. Of course, this all stems from the fact that the European powers built these powder-kegs before WWII. The US spent nearly a century trying to keep them from blowing up.
I mean doing nothing is not a threat to world peace. Like I said earlier trying to change people to be more like you to convert to your political beliefs support for democracy for neo cons, accepting gay rights, and critical race theory for liberals is one of the worst parts of our culture. And the part that leads to constant unending strife.
It would be, if the US wasn't the one who created the world peace based on the Free Trade model, then enforced it for nearly a century, and is now tossing it aside because we no longer benefit for it. Nor are we being passive; we are actively breaking the system down. Trump was the great crack in the wall of Free Trade. In his 4 years, Trump tore away decades of Free Trade agreements and deals. So far, Biden less intent on aggravating Europe, but just as aggressive on China, and completely uninterested in the rest of the system. Which means that instead of repairing the damaged system, he's just going to let it rot for his whole term.
And yes, the US and the West in general do have a tendency to spread their ideology. Which is a result of having come from an aggressive Abrahamic faith. Which you find in the Islamic faith as well.
I am not spinning it as a good, thing. All three of those actions are bad, I'm not some Chinese nationalist who will say "The Uighers are terrorists they should all be locked up in camps!" I'm just saying that, it is similar to what nations like the US did in the past, and durring the height of the war on terror there were people posting stuff like that online. It's not some massive never before seen breech on how the way nations are run. As long as China keeps it's atrocities to itself and doesen't conquer others or export it's odious ideology other nations that are not threatened by it because of being neighbors won't see it as a threat.
Problem is, China is threatening other States. Taiwan and the Philippines are direct examples. They're also growing more aggressive with the South Koreans and the Japanese.
Isn't China, still the 2nd in GDP after us? If they aren't an economic super power then no one but us is. I mean the one child policy is bad, for their demographics but they do have plenty of people, even if the population does shrink they would still be the highest in the world, and the forecasts saying it will lead to Chinese collapse I find to not be very credible.
Yes--and while there is real value there, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. But what China does not look at businesses as a means of producing value. They see it as a way of keeping people busy. The State would give you a loan even if you had no business plan or workable product. Just so long as you could keep people busy and working, you'd get that loan. And then they'd pump more and more money into it. And there is of course, value and massive growth--but it's incredibly unstable.
That and other issues, such as a low young population (middle aged people sell and lend to young people, who form families--lots of debt). The older population now requires massive cash infusions from a middle aged group...which is smaller than they are. So there's less money and growth to go around. So China's only hope of maintaining is strong economy is by exports. But Europe is getting too old. Worst of all, Germany is the Export King of Europe and would not allow deep Chinese penetration. Africa and the Middle East are not large enough markets to absorb Chinese products. Only the American market is large enough to absorb it all. And America's market is growing aggressive against those cheap Chinese goods.
China is facing an ever squeezing problem of having its entire economy collapsed under the weight of its own debt and mass production. Worse, if any major sector of their economy goes, it's supposedly going to take down the entire system. COVID-19 has accelerated this.
Isn't that stuff just for China to spread those companies, to try and build connections into other nations? The point was never to make a profit. But if they did expect them to make a profit it's just the failure of communism, so I will take your word for it I don't know about economics.
You speak of the Belt and Road Initiative, right? Yeah. China wanted to form a connection into the Middle East with large-scale infrastructure builds and business connections. And that's all well and good--until China can't throw around cash and bodies. Or until they openly clash with India, China, or the USA. Either of those powers could deny sea routes. China could still go overland and wants to--but even a few months delay in oil shipment can be devastating to China. Its entire economy could seize up. And it would probably take years for China to fully establish any sort of land-based oil shipment to meet the same volume as what it gets from ships. And it will be far, far more expensive.
And this isn't really a failure of communism. Or capitalism. It's pure, simple greed.
This is true. Well as long as we can have actual populists who did similar things to Trump. But I'm worried because those of Biden's ilk the globalists will go along with China, and Amazon and other big business want to be able to trade with China.
Biden has thus far done nothing to reverse anything that Trump has done, save for most recently, with Europe. And that took about six months to bring forward and...it's not clear if there has been any real progress made there. In regards to China, Biden's admin has been just as hard on China as Trump's admin was. Nor does Biden have the political or social capital to launch any new wars or to roll back much of anything the Trump Admin did. Doing so would actually create more chaos.
Part of the pain people are feeling price-wise and material wise is from Trump's trade war. But with COVID-19, so many things are offline anyway, people aren't seeing it. But rolling what Trump did back would interrupt the US's retooling and do no one any favors. Least of all Biden.
This is true, and if we oppose China. I'd rather have us not be in the lead role always trying to lead everything and shoulder all the burden. I'd rather have us help our allies by providing supplies and some people but let us be not sending the most ships and soldiers into the thick of the fighting.
China is really not as long-reaching as you might think. China has a large naval fleet, but most of those ships can't sail past the sight of the coast. Those that can are few in number. Japan and the UK are I think, 2nd and 3rd in terms of the strongest blue water navy. And the USA's blue water navy is so powerful that a single US Super Carrier Battle Group could go toe to toe with the rest of the world's blue water fleet and still win. The US has ten of those and in any conflict with China, will probably have 2-4 of them in the area, with another 1-2 blocking oil imports into China via the sea.
What China's brown water navy means is that we can't get too close to their coast. But we can still starve them.
Overall, it's hard to predict what will happen to China, because we don't know what the breaking point of the Chinese and their new national identity is. But if history is any indications, China as we know it will collapse within ten or twenty years. And we'd likely see a handful of smaller nations emerge.