Antifa, Just an Idea

[DarthOne]

Plus they will run to their relatives for help. "I didn't do nutin. He's being mean." While playing the victim card.

Though against someone like Musk...how many families would try to settle out of court if the kids did do damage?

See, that’s why you have to make sure they’re dead if they try to us deadly force against you. They can’t run for help and lie if they’re dead.

 

[ATP]

See, that’s why you have to make sure they’re dead if they try to us deadly force against you. They can’t run for help and lie if they’re dead.

Yes.Either do nothing and let them beat you,or kill them.There is no middle ground here.

 

[Captain X]

 

[Cherico]

 

[Husky_Khan]

This was quoted from the ongoing thread about the Atlanta Antifa Riots.

But while related this happened in Boston so I reposted here.

Speaking of Antifa riots…guess who got arrested..???

House Democratic leader's daughter arrested for allegedly assaulting police officer, spray-painting monument

Riley Dowell, the 23-year-old daughter of House Democratic Whip Katherine Clark, was arrested for allegedly spray-painting a monument and assaulting a police officer.

www.foxnews.com

Apparently Riley Dowell is a 23 year old nonbinary spawn of the Second Highest ranking Democrat in the United States House of Representatives... This lady... Katherine Clark whose represented Massachusetts for ten years in Congress now.



Hmmm oh wait there's replies.











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[Megadeath]

This was quoted from the ongoing thread about the Atlanta Antifa Riots.

But while related this happened in Boston so I reposted here.

Apparently Riley Dowell is a 23 year old nonbinary spawn of the Second Highest ranking Democrat in the United States House of Representatives... This lady... Katherine Clark whose represented Massachusetts for ten years in Congress now.

Huh. That certainly seems to argue against the idea that democrats and police are protecting antifa, if the second highest ranking dem representative is openly talking about her child being arrested like that, rather than her and the cops both just disappearing the issue, no?

 

[Battlegrinder]

Huh. That certainly seems to argue against the idea that democrats and police are protecting antifa, if the second highest ranking dem representative is openly talking about her child being arrested like that, rather than her and the cops both just disappearing the issue, no?

Um....no? Like, she got arrested after punching a cop in the face (or something to that effect), which would happen to anyone that did that, related to a congressional rep or not. Also, the cops very likely had no idea who she was or who she was related to when they cuffed her.

The issue is she's almost certainly going to dodge charges for this, which....well, you go punch a cop in the face, see if you get off with a warning like she will.

 

[Megadeath]

Um....no? Like, she got arrested after punching a cop in the face (or something to that effect), which would happen to anyone that did that, related to a congressional rep or not. Also, the cops very likely had no idea who she was or who she was related to when they cuffed her.

The issue is she's almost certainly going to dodge charges for this, which....well, you go punch a cop in the face, see if you get off with a warning like she will.

She already has been charged though? With assault by means of a dangerous weapon, destruction or injury of personal property and damage of property by graffiti/tagging, apparently. I guess you could mean in terms of sentencing, so I guess if anyone cares to keep watch we'll see if/when it gets to that point. Hopefully she'll get a few years behind bars but I won't be terribly surprised if she gets a suspended sentence, or maybe supervised home detention, community services and a fine.

I'm sure though that some time between when the officer was struck, and the police made a public statement and her mum made a twitter post, it would have come to everyone's attention who they had. If some of the more extreme claims of political/police protection for antifa were true, the cops never would have been there to arrest antifa protesters in the first place, and certainly wouldn't have followed through the way they have so far.

 

[Marduk]

Huh. That certainly seems to argue against the idea that democrats and police are protecting antifa, if the second highest ranking dem representative is openly talking about her child being arrested like that, rather than her and the cops both just disappearing the issue, no?

On the contrary, absolutely not. The protection is, for practical reasons if nothing else, happening on local level, leaning towards the more progressive wing of Dems, usually on the level of mayors and DAs, sometimes up to state, this has little to do with national level politicians like her, an establishment democrat, who may want to maintain a certain level of appearances for the sake of not ruining their fellow's chances in swing states if nothing else, yet have little individual influence over such matters on local level.
Still, sleep with dogs, get lice, so on and so on.

 

[Battlegrinder]

She already has been charged though? With assault by means of a dangerous weapon, destruction or injury of personal property and damage of property by graffiti/tagging, apparently. I guess you could mean in terms of sentencing, so I guess if anyone cares to keep watch we'll see if/when it gets to that point. Hopefully she'll get a few years behind bars but I won't be terribly surprised if she gets a suspended sentence, or maybe supervised home detention, community services and a fine.

Charges can be dropped, and if not....well, like I said. If you go punch a cop in the face, there's no way you end up just having to pick up some trash alongside the highway or the like.

I'm sure though that some time between when the officer was struck, and the police made a public statement and her mum made a twitter post, it would have come to everyone's attention who they had. If some of the more extreme claims of political/police protection for antifa were true, the cops never would have been there to arrest antifa protesters in the first place, and certainly wouldn't have followed through the way they have so far.

The more extreme claims, perhaps, but you can always find some comically absurd position to argue against. The more normative claim is that antifa and it's ilk get away with behavior that would never in a million years be tolerated by the right.

For example, the January 6th riot. The feds are still working to hunt down anyone involved in that and are handing out fairly substantial sentences to anyone involved. Vs this kid, where even you say some form of slap on the wrist punishment wouldn't be surprising.

 

[Megadeath]

Charges can be dropped, and if not....well, like I said. If you go punch a cop in the face, there's no way you end up just having to pick up some trash alongside the highway or the like.

The more extreme claims, perhaps, but you can always find some comically absurd position to argue against. The more normative claim is that antifa and it's ilk get away with behavior that would never in a million years be tolerated by the right.

For example, the January 6th riot. The feds are still working to hunt down anyone involved in that and are handing out fairly substantial sentences to anyone involved. Vs this kid, where even you say some form of slap on the wrist punishment wouldn't be surprising.

I wouldn't have said many of the Jan 6th rioters are getting terribly substantial sentences. One who was charged for similar behaviour to this, or slightly worse, got a 46 month sentence. And that's one of the harshest I'm aware of. In fact, that combined with the difference in circumstances (The children of the rich and powerful always get lesser sentences, dem or GOP, celebrity or business.) is why I don't expect that much for her. Unless it does just get completely dropped, it hardly seems out of the ordinary for the American legal system. Which is it's own pile of problems, but as I said originally, doesn’t really feel like special police or political protection for antifa so much as run-of-the-mill American legal inequality.

 

[DarthOne]

Charges can be dropped, and if not....well, like I said. If you go punch a cop in the face, there's no way you end up just having to pick up some trash alongside the highway or the like.



The more extreme claims, perhaps, but you can always find some comically absurd position to argue against. The more normative claim is that antifa and it's ilk get away with behavior that would never in a million years be tolerated by the right.

For example, the January 6th riot. The feds are still working to hunt down anyone involved in that and are handing out fairly substantial sentences to anyone involved. Vs this kid, where even you say some form of slap on the wrist punishment wouldn't be surprising.

Which means that any future Right-Wingers getting rounded up will feel pressured to just go down fighting rather then surrender and, assuming they aren’t arrest and have their lives ruined on in the immediate future, be hounded for years. God help us all.

 

[Cherico]

Which means that any future Right-Wingers getting rounded up will feel pressured to just go down fighting rather then surrender and, assuming they aren’t arrest and have their lives ruined on in the immediate future, be hounded for years. God help us all.

What it actually means is after decades of this treatment when the worm finally turns the left will get treated in a completely idenitical manner. It wont happen now of course but it is coming.

 

[Megadeath]

What it actually means is after decades of this treatment when the worm finally turns the left will get treated in a completely idenitical manner. It wont happen now of course but it is coming.

I would certainly hope so! Regardless of political affiliation, people who storm a government building ought to face punishment. If anything, harsher would be better. Because again, I believe the 46 month sentence I mentioned earlier is one of the harshest so far.

 

[Typhonis]

Weren't the Jan 6 protesters allowed into the building by the guards?

 

[Bear Ribs]

Kemp has declared a state of emergency.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Weren't the Jan 6 protesters allowed into the building by the guards?

Yup, and in many cases they were invited in by the same guards.

 

[Rocinante]

Yup, and in many cases they were invited in by the same guards.

In one case, they negotiated entry on the word that they would remain peaceful.

 

[Zyobot]

So… who else is counting down the days until Antifa, BLM, or some likeminded loonies pull off another 9/11 and force the Left as a whole to finally acknowledge that maybe it does have a bit of an extremism problem?

Doubt they’ll be able to sneak into planes with boxcutters and suicide vests again, but at some point, I wouldn’t rule out them carrying out — or at least, attempting — another World Trade Center Bombing or Beslan School Siege that gets a whole lot of people killed, including themselves. If that’s not enough to generate the kind of shock value 9/11 did, then frankly, I’m not sure what is.

 

[Megadeath]

So… who else is counting down the days until Antifa, BLM, or some likeminded loonies pull off another 9/11 and force the Left as a whole to finally acknowledge that maybe it does have a bit of an extremism problem?

Doubt they’ll be able to sneak into planes with boxcutters and suicide vests again, but at some point, I wouldn’t rule out them carrying out — or at least, attempting — another World Trade Center Bombing or Beslan School Siege that gets a whole lot of people killed, including themselves. If that’s not enough to generate the kind of shock value 9/11 did, then frankly, I’m not sure what is.

Maybe some left wing loony will ram a car into a crowd at a political rally. Do you think that would be enough for them to acknowledge an extremist fringe exists and can pose a threat?

Weren't the Jan 6 protesters allowed into the building by the guards?

Yup, and in many cases they were invited in by the same guards.

In one case, they negotiated entry on the word that they would remain peaceful.

And in other cases they smashed windows, broke down doors and barricades and forced their way through police lines. Regardless of the ultimate outcome, you can hardly claim that Ashli Babbitt was allowed or invited, as an obvious example.