Aliens and Predators Franchise Megathread

[Jormungandr]

More details emerge on the upcoming Disney release of Predator 5: Prey or whatever it's called.

The film is being directed by Dan Trachtenberg (“10 Cloverfield Lane”) and is set in the world of the Comanche Nation three centuries ago. The story follows Naru, a skilled hunter who fiercely protects her tribe and wants to prove her worth as a warrior.

She gets her chance when she comes face to face with the most dangerous hunter of all, the other-worldly predator.
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It'll release in the Summer of 2022 on Hulu so I can give even less a crap about watching it since I don't have Hulu. Thanks!

Uh, I'm not exactly an expert on anything Native American, but didn't the Natives have more homemaker roles for the women of the tribe? IIRC there were no female warriors or hunters?

If that's the case, then this just reeks of a "whamen stronk!" stench we see more and more in media these days. However, if I'm wrong, then this could work, even if it is still sourced from the same bullshit ideology.

To be completely fair, displaying that degree of suicidal naivety probably indicates you aren't worthy prey. So it might actually have the desired results, however unintentionally.

Great, so the people most deserving of a Darwin Award may actually survive because the Yautja find them too pathetic to kill?

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

To be completely fair, displaying that degree of suicidal naivety probably indicates you aren't worthy prey. So it might actually have the desired results, however unintentionally.

Great, so the people most deserving of a Darwin Award may actually survive because the Yautja find them too pathetic to kill?

I think it would be the opposite, as in the Yautja kills the moron on the spot. My reasoning is that healthy prey either run from their predator, or they go on the offense to try and fight them off. Animals that just stand there tend to be diseased or infected with parasites. The yautja are hunters with an interest in preserving their strenght of their prey, and if that kind of thing spreads, then future hunts get ruined.

 

[Bassoe]

Anyone else now imagining a comedy starring an increasingly exasperated predator trying to find worthy prey among modern militaries? Or everything turning out to have been a conspiracy to make predators target the enemy's forces instead of yours?

 

[Jormungandr]

I think it would be the opposite, as in the Yautja kills the moron on the spot. My reasoning is that healthy prey either run from their predator, or they go on the offense to try and fight them off. Animals that just stand there tend to be diseased or infected with parasites. The yautja are hunters with an interest in preserving their strenght of their prey, and if that kind of thing spreads, then future hunts get ruined.

Well, they do leave pregnant women alone (Predator II), so that could happen...

Anyone else now imagining a comedy starring an increasingly exasperated predator trying to find worthy prey among modern militaries? Or everything turning out to have been a conspiracy to make predators target the enemy's forces instead of yours?

>Predator goes to China.
>Predator sees broken Chinese conscripts crying on bus
>Predator sees retarded Chinese conscripts playing hot potato with live hand grenades
>Predator sees Chinese civilians blowing themselves up or decapitating themselves via manhole covers by their throwing firecrackers down into their sewers, which are shoddily-built and filled to the brim with explosive methane gas
>Predator sees Chinese buildings fall down because of Tofu Construction
>Predator simply shakes it head and wanders off to Russia
>Predator sees Putin wrestle a bear
>Predator promptly drinks vodka

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Great, so the people most deserving of a Darwin Award may actually survive because the Yautja find them too pathetic to kill?

Culling the herd of the genetically weak is certainly a worthy use of a Predator's plasma cannon. No worthy trophy, but it does make hunts down the road more interesting.

 

[Bassoe]

Step #1. Fill your faction's armies with unworthy prey.
Step #2. Predators annihilate the armies of all your rivals.
Step #3. Be the only faction with any army, however pathetic.
Step #4. World domination.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Interesting story of how James Cameron sold the idea of a Alien sequel to Fox Movie executives.

“I was sitting with the three producers, and we were in the office of the then-head of 20th Century Fox. And I said, ‘Guys, I got an idea for the title. And it goes like this.’ And I wrote, ‘Alien’ in large block letters. And I put an S on the end. I showed it to them. I said, ‘I want to call it Aliens, because we’re not dealing with one. Now we’re dealing with an army, and that’s the big distinction. And it’s very simple and very graphic.’ And I said, ‘But here’s what it’s going to translate to.’ And then I drew the two lines through it to make it a dollar sign. And that was my pitch. And apparently, it worked! Because they went with the title. They never questioned it.”

Alien$

Thankfully he actually made a good movie, not just add more shit like many movies today

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[Sobek]

Average Hollywood exec IQ

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Average Hollywood exec IQ

It worked.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Sometimes it does.

 

[Husky_Khan]

A Teaser Trailer for Prey came out a few weeks ago. Only 45 seconds long but it was good.



Nice and minimalist. Set the scene well.

Sadly, recently... a far more extensive trailer was released.



Along with the whole, showing way too much of everything that trailers nowadays show, it does seem like the story is following what has been revealed earlier, with a Woman needing to prove herself as a Hunter by killing a Predator since everyone else fails at it.

Also there are White People in this film so... whatever. And Horses.

But no Comanches on Horses which, like I've stated before, is when the Comanches became a proper Empire and would've been a far more interesting setting.

This film seems insistent on plugging itself into the least interesting period of the Old West for the Comanche and those filthy White Colonizers. Which is 1700. Keep in mind, the only White People in or near Comanche territory around this time would've been the Spanish. Or... Maaaaaaaaaaaybe French fur traders or something, but its a smidgen too early for that still IIRC. These guys look pretty White bread though so I'm guessing they're fur trapper stereotypes or whatever.

Apparently though, and I do kinda like it, there will be a version of the film using the Comanche Language supposedly. Whether that means it'll be dubbed over (cringe) or English subbed... I dunno... but they are speaking English in this trailer so... yeah.

Also it takes place in a temperate woodland setting. So I hope you like foliage like literally every other f'ing Predator movie... except the second one. Oh and those shitty AvP movies I guess for the most part. I guess the Southwest with its rocky terrain, hills, cliffs, gullies, box canyons, mesas and rock formations, scrublands and deserts, pueblos and hills and caves... certainly could never be a good setting for a Predator movie.

 

[Jormungandr]

A Teaser Trailer for Prey came out a few weeks ago. Only 45 seconds long but it was good.



Nice and minimalist. Set the scene well.

Sadly, recently... a far more extensive trailer was released.



Along with the whole, showing way too much of everything that trailers nowadays show, it does seem like the story is following what has been revealed earlier, with a Woman needing to prove herself as a Hunter by killing a Predator since everyone else fails at it.

Also there are White People in this film so... whatever. And Horses.

But no Comanches on Horses which, like I've stated before, is when the Comanches became a proper Empire and would've been a far more interesting setting.

This film seems insistent on plugging itself into the least interesting period of the Old West for the Comanche and those filthy White Colonizers. Which is 1700. Keep in mind, the only White People in or near Comanche territory around this time would've been the Spanish. Or... Maaaaaaaaaaaybe French fur traders or something, but its a smidgen too early for that still IIRC. These guys look pretty White bread though so I'm guessing they're fur trapper stereotypes or whatever.

Apparently though, and I do kinda like it, there will be a version of the film using the Comanche Language supposedly. Whether that means it'll be dubbed over (cringe) or English subbed... I dunno... but they are speaking English in this trailer so... yeah.

Also it takes place in a temperate woodland setting. So I hope you like foliage like literally every other f'ing Predator movie... except the second one. Oh and those shitty AvP movies I guess for the most part. I guess the Southwest with its rocky terrain, hills, cliffs, gullies, box canyons, mesas and rock formations, scrublands and deserts, pueblos and hills and caves... certainly could never be a good setting for a Predator movie.

Predator in the desert would be so fucking lit.

"Is that a mirage or is it the yautja?"

"Guess we found out what happened to those pirates. Cut 'em down before the buzzards attract too much attention."

"Night has fallen. Be vigilant."

"Niiight haasss falll-en--fall-en-fall-en." *click'crackle'* "...That wasn't me."

 

[Captain X]

 

[Agent23]

Yeah, Alien vs. Predator with its stronk waminz of color and Prometheus basically told me long ago that I want nothing to do with that franchise.
Good thing it is generating clicks for Critical Drinker, though.

 

[ATP]

I have only one question - how somebody with stone weapons,even female super duper warrior,could defeat Predator?
Even Arnie need explosives for that.

 

[Jormungandr]

Yeah, Alien vs. Predator with its stronk waminz of color and Prometheus basically told me long ago that I want nothing to do with that franchise.
Good thing it is generating clicks for Critical Drinker, though.

Sadly enough, every time I see a female lead now, I automatically think this.

It's a shame because there are films, series, and even animations out there that have strong leads that are interesting people/characters; not because they're Black, or a woman, or gay, or anything else along those lines.

My history, especially that of the Americas, is utter shit, so I may be wrong here, but were there such things as female Cherokees being hunters/warriors? Or female hunters/warriors in other Native American tribes/peoples? @Cherico

Also, this woman (I really hope it's not a "stronk wahman") is going up against an alien that is at least five times as strong as a professional fucking male body-builder, has weapons that cut through anything in the modern day (metallurgy, et cetera) and "[it] has almost no weight" (src: Predator 2), and has a shit-ton of advanced technology -- even the goddamn biomask is pretty much an automatic "I win" button against people armed with (terrestrial) spears and bows. Spears and bows!

Does the moronic writer of this film truly believe that a flint, stone, or even crudely-forged arrowhead will slow down an alien with muscle density so high it makes Chris "I Punch Boulders into Lava" Redfield from Resident Evil 5 look like a stereotypical geek?

Oh, but the director has said, in an interview,that the"[Predator] doesn't have its plasma-caster".

...So, the wrist-blades? The speargun? The goddamn light-bending stealth? The ability to rip people's spines from their goddamn living bodies? Yeah, that's all fine versus a girl with a fucking spear and bow because it doesn't have a fucking directed-energy weapon on its shoulder.

Yay! Completely balanced!

If this doesn't end with the girl and her people having their spines ripped from their still-twitching bodies, my facepalm will be heard in fucking China -- and I live in the UK!

They have one chance to do this right somehow. One chance! Otherwise, it's more woke garbage to be consigned to the shit-heap.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Y'all just a bunch of misogynists. You tried to cancel the Aliens, Terminator and Robocop franchises when they introduced strong female characters into your beloved domain of Action SciFi movies and bullied Alice Braga into oblivion when she started in Predators because she was Brown! 😠😫😭

 

[Jormungandr]

Y'all just a bunch of misogynists. You tried to cancel the Aliens, Terminator and Robocop franchises when they introduced strong female characters into your beloved domain of Action SciFi movies and bullied Alice Braga into oblivion when she started in Predators because she was Brown! 😠😫😭

Man, I love those franchises/movies.

It's a shame Dark Fate went full on Woke Shit (tm), but I guess people voted with their wallets because even Linda Hamilton admitted in a post-release interview it killed the franchise, hah.

But in seriousness, those franchises/movies had great examples of strong, female leads/co-leads without them being "stronk whaman".

I honestly doubt Prey is going to join such an illustrious rank, and that it's likely going to be complete Woke Shit.

Maybe I'm wrong and they'll pull it off; but I also hope I'll discover a gold bar under my bed one day, so... shrug?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Man, I love those franchises/movies.

It's a shame Dark Fate went full on Woke Shit (tm), but I guess people voted with their wallets because even Linda Hamilton admitted in a post-release interview it killed the franchise, hah.

But in seriousness, those franchises/movies had great examples of strong, female leads/co-leads without them being "stronk whaman".

I honestly doubt Prey is going to join such an illustrious rank, and that it's likely going to be complete Woke Shit.

Maybe I'm wrong and they'll pull it off; but I also hope I'll discover a gold bar under my bed one day, so... shrug?

I didn't see the latest Terminator until like a year after and maybe that shaded my expectations by lowering them considerably but Terminator Dork Fate in all honestly would've worked fine as a non-Terminator movie I feel. It was... average to above average on its own... but absolutely terrible as a continuation of the Terminator franchise. I feel like if they did their own thing (not a reboot) and just made it a "new" story about a killer robot from the future or whatever it actually would've been decent. People might've said Durr that's like Terminator but if it's quality entertainment it wouldn't be a big deal.

 

[Laskar]

I didn't see the latest Terminator until like a year after and maybe that shaded my expectations by lowering them considerably but Terminator Dork Fate in all honestly would've worked fine as a non-Terminator movie I feel. It was... average to above average on its own... but absolutely terrible as a continuation of the Terminator franchise. I feel like if they did their own thing (not a reboot) and just made it a "new" story about a killer robot from the future or whatever it actually would've been decent. People might've said Durr that's like Terminator but if it's quality entertainment it wouldn't be a big deal.

I'm just amazed that there was a franchise to kill after Genesys.