Aliens and Predators Franchise Megathread
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It sounds like pre- White people so that means its not even the time of the Comanches peak of power when they basically carved out their own Empire in the Southern Plains thanks to their mastery of the horses introduced by the Spanish originally.
Comanches without horses is just laaaaaaaaaame.
The Aliens Television series looks to be shaping up nicely...
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Despite the provocative headline, it doesn't quite sound as terrible as that:
On some level it’s also a story about inequality. You know, one of the things that I love about the first movie is how ’70s a movie it is, and how it’s really this blue collar space-trucker world in which Yaphet Kotto and Harry Dean Stanton are basically Waiting for Godot. They’re like Samuel Beckett characters, ordered to go to a place by a faceless nameless corporation. The second movie is such an ’80s movie, but it’s still about grunts. Paul Reiser is middle management at best. So, it is the story of the people you send to do the dirty work.
In mine, you’re also going to see the people who are sending them. So you will see what happens when the inequality we’re struggling with now isn’t resolved. If we as a society can’t figure out how to prop each other up and spread the wealth, then what’s going to happen to us? There’s that great Sigourney Weaver line to Paul Reiser where she says, “I don’t know which species is worse. At least they don’t fuck each other over for a percentage.”
Basically the filmmaker, Noah Hawley had an interview with Vanity Fair and they were kind of masturbating each other the whole time about how the Aliens film series are (rightly) considered more then just monster movies and showing how pretentious the media always is, were able to link the Aliens franchise to the ongoing pandemic, quarantine, and other babble.
Noah Hawley was previous a writer for the Detective show Bones and a writer/producer for the television series Fargo and Legion.
Noah Hawley Claims The Upcoming Alien TV Series Is A "Story About Inequality"
The creator of the upcoming Alien TV series from FX and Disney, Noah Hawley, recently provided some details about the […]
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Despite the provocative headline, it doesn't quite sound as terrible as that:
On some level it’s also a story about inequality. You know, one of the things that I love about the first movie is how ’70s a movie it is, and how it’s really this blue collar space-trucker world in which Yaphet Kotto and Harry Dean Stanton are basically Waiting for Godot. They’re like Samuel Beckett characters, ordered to go to a place by a faceless nameless corporation. The second movie is such an ’80s movie, but it’s still about grunts. Paul Reiser is middle management at best. So, it is the story of the people you send to do the dirty work.
In mine, you’re also going to see the people who are sending them. So you will see what happens when the inequality we’re struggling with now isn’t resolved. If we as a society can’t figure out how to prop each other up and spread the wealth, then what’s going to happen to us? There’s that great Sigourney Weaver line to Paul Reiser where she says, “I don’t know which species is worse. At least they don’t fuck each other over for a percentage.”
Basically the filmmaker, Noah Hawley had an interview with Vanity Fair and they were kind of masturbating each other the whole time about how the Aliens film series are (rightly) considered more then just monster movies and showing how pretentious the media always is, were able to link the Aliens franchise to the ongoing pandemic, quarantine, and other babble.
Noah Hawley was previous a writer for the Detective show Bones and a writer/producer for the television series Fargo and Legion.
Bassoe
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What was so annoying about it is, there was already an obvious canon approach to have taken if they'd wanted to write essentially the same story they told with 'inequality' and 'self-insert women with secret superhuman powers'. Instead of androids, augments. That's how to do a show on institutional discrimination in star trek without changing preexisting canon. Some colony on the boundaries of federation space had been ignoring the laws against genetically enhancing their progeny. Now, several million augments, many of whom have became starfleet officers later, they've been found out and you basically get DS9, Episode 5x16, but scaled up to an entire demographic, many of whom are going to be much less well-dispersed to suddenly being disenfranchised than Doctor Bashir was.
Bassoe
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Or you absolutely must, make it a story about an android rebellion. Weyland-Yutani's plans to use xenomorphs as attack dogs are universally considered completely unworkable by every character who's survived actually encountering xenomorphs, but they would be a practical weapon for an android rebellion. Xenomorphs kill humans but going with the EU novels as canon (specifically, the Aliens novelization by Alan Dean Foster where Bishop was able to safely walk around inside the hive and Steve Perry's trilogy which has a whole society of androids who'd been living aboard a xenomorph-infested spaceship for over a decade after all the human crew and passengers were killed), ignore androids who don't provoke them by attacking first.
Of course that wouldn't work as a movie either, insofar as specieswide survival concerns about avoiding getting terminated as an organic oppressor by Nat Turnertron 9000 and his pet giant homicidal space termites with acid for blood would override any sympathy for enslaved androids.
That or go with Assorted Projects' idea for a sequel to Aliens Resurrection in which a less human twin Ripley clone sets herself up as the sentient leader of a xenomorph hive.
I remember some comics where group of soldiers is send to retrive colony of Xenomorphs which keep people alive/for example,facefuggers get them but it is inside and do not kill host/
They are ambushed but Yutja and massacred,but then xenomprph come and finish them off.survivors was meet by woman with partially xenomorph skin who rule them,who let them go and say that they claim that territory,but do not want more.
Kind of human/xenomorph tribe.
They are ambushed but Yutja and massacred,but then xenomprph come and finish them off.survivors was meet by woman with partially xenomorph skin who rule them,who let them go and say that they claim that territory,but do not want more.
Kind of human/xenomorph tribe.
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Random funny.... parallels for a lot of modern movies I feel.
PREDATOR: What if an interplanetary big-game hunter hunted Arnold Schwarzenegger in the jungle? (107 minutes)
PREDATOR 2: What if an interplanetary big-game hunter hunted gangs in Los Angeles? (108 minutes)
ALIEN VS. PREDATOR: What if interplanetary big-game hunters hunted Aliens in Antarctica? (115 minutes)
ALIEN VS. PREDATOR: REQUIEM: What if interplanetary big-game hunters hunted an Alien born from an interplanetary big-game hunter? (102 minutes)
PREDATORS: What if three interplanetary big-game hunters brought Earth's deadliest killers to an interplanetary big-game reserve to hunt them? (107 minutes)
THE PREDATOR: What if an interplanetary big-game hunter fled his fellow interplanetary big-game hunters and came to Earth to give humans a tool to kill really big interplanetary big-game hunters who had fused their DNA with big-game from around the galaxy and were coming to Earth to over-hunt the big-game on Earth because climate change is going to kill all the big-game and the last big-game they need to complete their evolution is a kid with Asperger's whose dad is a sniper? (107 minutes)
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PREDATOR: What if an interplanetary big-game hunter hunted Arnold Schwarzenegger in the jungle? (107 minutes)
PREDATOR 2: What if an interplanetary big-game hunter hunted gangs in Los Angeles? (108 minutes)
ALIEN VS. PREDATOR: What if interplanetary big-game hunters hunted Aliens in Antarctica? (115 minutes)
ALIEN VS. PREDATOR: REQUIEM: What if interplanetary big-game hunters hunted an Alien born from an interplanetary big-game hunter? (102 minutes)
PREDATORS: What if three interplanetary big-game hunters brought Earth's deadliest killers to an interplanetary big-game reserve to hunt them? (107 minutes)
THE PREDATOR: What if an interplanetary big-game hunter fled his fellow interplanetary big-game hunters and came to Earth to give humans a tool to kill really big interplanetary big-game hunters who had fused their DNA with big-game from around the galaxy and were coming to Earth to over-hunt the big-game on Earth because climate change is going to kill all the big-game and the last big-game they need to complete their evolution is a kid with Asperger's whose dad is a sniper? (107 minutes)
A ★★ review of The Predator (2018)
PREDATOR: What if an interplanetary big-game hunter hunted Arnold Schwarzenegger in the jungle? (107 minutes) PREDATOR 2: What if an interplanetary big-game hunter hunted gangs in Los Angeles? (108 minutes) ALIEN VS. PREDATOR: What if interplanetary big-game hunters hunted Aliens in Antarctica...
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Amber Midthunder is going to star in the leading role. I don't know who that is.
Predator 5 Cinematographer Announces Film Has Wrapped, Confirms Amber Midthunder Will Star As Lead
Predator 5 cinematographer Jeff Cutter has confirmed that the film has wrapped and Amber Midthunder will star as its lead.
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Amber Midthunder is going to star in the leading role. I don't know who that is.
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Predator 5 Cinematographer Announces Film Has Wrapped, Confirms Amber Midthunder Will Star As Lead
Predator 5 cinematographer Jeff Cutter has confirmed that the film has wrapped and Amber Midthunder will star as its lead.
Amber Midthunder is going to star in the leading role. I don't know who that is.
Amber Midthunder - Wikipedia
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A Native American actress that's been in a few B-list shows, B-movies, and a Marvel spin-off TV show (unrelated to the MCU, which is probably why it only lasted one or two seasons before being shit-canned).
Basically, this looks to be her "big break".
I hope this is going to be more "Ellen Ripley lead" than "WAHMEN LEAD BECAUSE WAHMEN!". But, given it's Disney, I'm not holding my breath.
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Predator 5 Cinematographer Announces Film Has Wrapped, Confirms Amber Midthunder Will Star As Lead
Predator 5 cinematographer Jeff Cutter has confirmed that the film has wrapped and Amber Midthunder will star as its lead.
Amber Midthunder is going to star in the leading role. I don't know who that is.
Considering how woke Hollywood become - probably she is lesbian missionary teaching Predators how bad white man society is,so they could go with her and made it more trans.
Yessss
How come beating a drum in the Monsters face didn't put it at peace?!?!?! 😢
More details emerge on the upcoming Disney release of Predator 5: Prey or whatever it's called.
The film is being directed by Dan Trachtenberg (“10 Cloverfield Lane”) and is set in the world of the Comanche Nation three centuries ago. The story follows Naru, a skilled hunter who fiercely protects her tribe and wants to prove her worth as a warrior.
She gets her chance when she comes face to face with the most dangerous hunter of all, the other-worldly predator.
It'll release in the Summer of 2022 on Hulu so I can give even less a crap about watching it since I don't have Hulu. Thanks!She gets her chance when she comes face to face with the most dangerous hunter of all, the other-worldly predator.
ParadiseLost
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In before white colonists are portrayed as even more evil villains than the Predator.
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Pictured below: The scriptwriters, editors, director, and whatever braindead panel of Hollywood yabos green-lit the project when perusing anything with information on the division of labor within and gender roles of Comanche tribes.
*In case not blatantly obvious, this is sarcasm. That shit was not handled well at all.
Which is a little vaguely disappointing from a conceptual standpoint. Because the basic concept of 'Predator meets low-technology society human warrior seeking to prove selves' is solid. And the American West in that whole 1700-1870s period works well as a backdrop.
I, personally, think it would've been fun to see Hollywood try to make a movie directly set in the 1860s threading the needle between the bad-guy Union Army come to fight Injuns in sideshow/distraction from their fight against Confederates, the Predator, and the brutal, settler-massacring Comanche tribe 'protagonists' because you could do some real 80s-inspired blood'n'guts fest with that setup and slap audiences with how the Predators skull-harvesting brutality isn't too far off from stuff man has done. Even putting it back in the early 1700s gives them the opening to show Comanche-Apache hostility and massacring of each other as the background. So, on its base, there's the groundwork for a story there.
But, going by the character and ahistorical stretches required to fanfic-insert them...Not going to be getting that.
It's a neat idea but utilizing the Maya is no more inherently cooler then using the Comanche to be honest. The only uniquely cool thing about that concept is the potential of doing a heartectomy on the Predator which might be neat (or could be cringe lol) since not everyone can make films as cool as Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. Shane Black tragically showed that with the latest Predator flick.
Comanche are cool and had their own Empire. One of the main annoyances with this concept is that the Comanche Empire didn't really become an Empire until the introduction of Horses and the Comanche for all intents and purposes became an amazing 'Horse' Empire of the Plains for much of the early 19th century. Comanche war bands or hunters taking on the Predator in the deserts and canyons and plains and shrubland would also be a much different setting then we'd have the Predator in then in previous films. Like the first film was literally a jungle setting.
Plus you'd have more dynamism with melee weapons, bows and arrows, 19th century firearms and the use of horses and that sort of tactics and mobility then loads of dudes on foot with their cool murder and abduction weapons. And it's not like brutal fatalities aren't unknown in those Plains cultures as well.
Just my two cents considering the Reddit post seemed to discount the idea of a Comanche Hunter as well as the fact it's a female in the same breadth and replaced it with an entirely different culture as if it's superior as a setting/adversary/protagonist for some reason.
Bassoe
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To be completely fair, displaying that degree of suicidal naivety probably indicates you aren't worthy prey. So it might actually have the desired results, however unintentionally.