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I just made myself known in this matter. Abbott is wrong in his decision here. He can make it, but I have no idea why he actually wants to make this decision. It's a dumb choice to back Gonzalez here.
Somebody is super TRIGGERED by Abbott's endorsement of Congressman Gonzalez. Tomorrow is the end of Early Voting in the Lone Star State & Tuesday will be the runoff election.
 
Somebody is super TRIGGERED by Abbott's endorsement of Congressman Gonzalez. Tomorrow is the end of Early Voting in the Lone Star State & Tuesday will be the runoff election.
If I lived in District 23 I’d Texas I would be too. Gonzalez is the sort of person who shouldn’t be in office. And that’s before getting into how much of a RIÑO he is.
 
Literally all that I have ever read or heard about Gonzales paints the picture of a man who is the microcosm of everything Republican voters loathe about their establishment '''''leaders''''''.
  • Guy can talk a good game on Fox News before casually stabbing his constituents in the back on everything they care about from gun control to immigration to social issues, and then condescendingly tries to gaslight them about it;
  • Calls other, more principled Republicans scumbags, Nazis, Klansmen and even pedophiles (nevermind that the DOJ ultimately couldn't make that accusation stick to Gaetz and had to jail the guy accusing him for the very same crime instead, despite their very best efforts & having every reason under the sun to want him dead or in prison forever) for opposing him;
  • Hypocritically bashes his opponent for having out-of-state supporters like Gaetz while he himself is being very visibly backed by the likes of Mike Johnson;
  • Full of the false piety oft associated with Bush-era evangelical politicians, once called Chip Roy 'not Christian' while shooting down the latter's immigration reform proposal even though his own district's on the border and suffering greatly from illegal immigration (which among other things results in the most un-Christian murder of American citizens, the un-Christian destruction of the standards of living of Americans who aren't murdered, and the un-Christian enslavement of the illegal immigrant women & children by their coyotes) - reminds me of Lindsay Graham floating a national abortion ban to turn out the progressive vote but then not supporting Tommy Tuberville's effort to derail the big push for abortion in the military, proving he's definitely not actually pro-life and definitely is controlled opposition, a few years back.
Like, God damn man, if Gonzales didn't actually exist and have the record that he does and you wrote him into a political story, you'd be criticized for creating a too-on-the-nose and 'unrealistic' strawman of the 'fiscally conservative, socially moderate and respectably bipartisan RINO' who conserves nothing, blatantly holds his supposed constituents in seething contempt, and still has the arrogant entitlement & audacity to expect them to thank and re-elect him for constantly shitting down their throats. And the best this guy can do against Herrera is to make clips out of his edgy jokes, call him a Nazi and a carpetbagger?

What a fucking joke, like being originally from North Carolina (or wherever it is that Herrera is accused of carpetbagging from) is supposed to make him worse than a walking incarnation of the cancer that's been killing the Republican Party for decades. Herrera might be eccentric but until and unless he sells out massively and starts aggressively voting against the wants & interests of the people of Texas' 23rd Congressional district, there's no way he can be any worse than Gonzales.

I'll also add that it's weird AF to me that safe blue districts pretty much always send reliably uber-partisan hacks like Maxine Waters to Congress, while safe red ones seem to send backstabbing snakes like Gonzales vastly more frequently than they do the rare firebreather who actually tries to throw some bombs in the name of his constituents like Gaetz. Extends to the Senate too, the reddest states like South Dakota get represented by the likes of McConnell protégé John Thune and Texas itself may have Cruz but it also has John Cornyn while the bluest ones reliably get staunch progressives, like you'd never hear about the Senator from Connecticut actually putting in work toward an actual compromise with the right over abortion or a balanced budget or whatever. What gives?
 
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Literally all that I have ever read or heard about Gonzales paints the picture of a man who is the microcosm of everything Republican voters loathe about their establishment '''''leaders''''''.
  • Guy can talk a good game on Fox News before casually stabbing his constituents in the back on everything they care about from gun control to immigration to social issues, and then condescendingly tries to gaslight them about it;
  • Calls other, more principled Republicans scumbags, Nazis, Klansmen and even pedophiles (nevermind that the DOJ ultimately couldn't make that accusation stick to Gaetz and had to jail the guy accusing him for the very same crime instead, despite their very best efforts & having every reason under the sun to want him dead or in prison forever) for opposing him;
  • Hypocritically bashes his opponent for having out-of-state supporters like Gaetz while he himself is being very visibly backed by the likes of Mike Johnson;
  • Full of the false piety popularly associated with Bush-era evangelical politicians, once called Chip Roy 'not Christian' while shooting down the latter's immigration reform proposal even though his own district's on the border and suffering greatly from illegal immigration (which among other things results in the most un-Christian murder of American citizens, the un-Christian destruction of the standards of living of Americans who aren't murdered, and the un-Christian enslavement of the illegal immigrant women & children by their coyotes) - reminds me of Lindsay Graham floating a national abortion ban to turn out the progressive vote but then not supporting Tommy Tuberville's effort to derail the big push for abortion in the military, proving he's definitely not actually pro-life and definitely is controlled opposition, a few years back.
Like, God damn man, if Gonzales didn't actually exist and have the record that he does and you wrote him into a political story, you'd be criticized for creating a too-on-the-nose and 'unrealistic' strawman of the 'fiscally conservative, socially moderate and respectably bipartisan RINO' who conserves nothing, blatantly holds his supposed constituents in seething contempt, and still has the arrogant entitlement & audacity to expect them to thank and re-elect him for constantly shitting down their throats. And the best this guy can do against Herrera is to make clips out of his edgy jokes, call him a Nazi and a carpetbagger?

What a fucking joke, like being originally from North Carolina (or wherever it is that Herrera is accused of carpetbagging from) is supposed to make him worse than a walking incarnation of the cancer that's been killing the Republican Party for decades. Herrera might be eccentric but until and unless he sells out massively and starts aggressively voting against the wants & interests of the people of Texas' 23rd Congressional district, there's no way he can be any worse than Gonzales.

I'll also add that it's weird AF to me that safe blue districts pretty much always send reliably uber-partisan hacks like Maxine Waters to Congress, while safe red ones seem to send backstabbing snakes like Gonzales vastly more frequently than they do the rare firebreather who actually tries to throw some bombs in the name of his constituents like Gaetz. Extends to the Senate too, the reddest states like South Dakota get represented by the likes of McConnell protégé John Thune while the bluest ones reliably get staunch progressives, like you'd never hear about the Senator from Connecticut actually putting in work toward an actual compromise with the right over abortion or a balanced budget or whatever. What gives?
Herrera loves guns to much to sell out
While yes he js friends with BRCC people, he went out and was one of the first to interview Rittenhouse and supported him from the get go.
 
Y'all didn't have a problem when then-Congressman Will Hurd (R-TX 23rd) held this district for 3 2-year terms.
They probably did have a problem with it. But most of the time there aren't better options. This time, there is.
Gut feeling Gonzalez wins.
Okay, and if he does, then nothing changes there. Not a big deal. But if Brandon wins, then he's proven his point. Which is that our representatives need to start representing us properly. And that if they don't, that they can be challenged and beaten.

My biggest question to you is. Why is it a bad thing for us to want someone whose actually honest in office? Someone whose a hardcore constitutionalist. You seem really confident in Gonzalez winning. But given he's resorting to left-wing smear tactics, I believe that Gonzalez is terrified that he's going to lose. I don't even live in Texas. But I'm still paying attention to this race because it's important.

We shouldn't have to settle for people who are willing to sell our rights away. That is all.
 
Y'all didn't have a problem when then-Congressman Will Hurd (R-TX 23rd) held this district for 3 2-year terms.
Pretty sure Hurd kicked himself out when he saw Trump coming in '18.

As for why I didn't, I've never lived in that district to vote there. Since Trump came into office, I'm much more willing to be active in other districts I don't live in.
 
If I lived there I would vote Herrera just for the AK-50.

side note I discovered something kinda neat.


the house GOP judiciary commitee has their own youtube channel and they upload their meetings. it is as hilarious as you expect to watch the Dems grandstand about how they actually support the police especially those good old boys who work in the ATF.
 
Because he wasn't running against someone like Herrera and probably gas a better voting record with the Texas Republcuans then Gonzalez, who has been censored by them
You meant to say "probably has a better voting record with Texas Republicans".... Sietch needs a SPELL-CHECK option.
 
If I lived there I would vote Herrera just for the AK-50.

side note I discovered something kinda neat.


the house GOP judiciary commitee has their own youtube channel and they upload their meetings. it is as hilarious as you expect to watch the Dems grandstand about how they actually support the police especially those good old boys who work in the ATF.
You meant to say the House Judiciary Committee.
 
My take on it is Abbott is actually fairly establishment. But his state is becoming increasingly populist because of the border situation so he acts populist a lot of the time but will do establishment things when he feels it neccesary.
Kemp is the same way. He is doing goof for his state but his federal stuff would be more establishment.
Neither of these men are "establishment" in the sense of the word its normally used. I have worked downstream of/beside both of them at one of my current companies and they are very conservative and very populist and do intend to deliver on these things for their voters. What they both have done is say no to Trump at some point in the last few years thus have been labelled a RINO. This is all equally true of DeSantis, although its harder to argue in good faith he's establishment considering his whole career has been teaparty/freedom caucus/maga.
 
Neither of these men are "establishment" in the sense of the word its normally used. I have worked downstream of/beside both of them at one of my current companies and they are very conservative and very populist and do intend to deliver on these things for their voters. What they both have done is say no to Trump at some point in the last few years thus have been labelled a RINO. This is all equally true of DeSantis, although its harder to argue in good faith he's establishment considering his whole career has been teaparty/freedom caucus/maga.
I honestly don't think Kemp is establishment I just know he is often called it.
Kemp has so far been keeping GA...well for Georgians.
Kemp has handily won the state recently showing that even saying No to Trump doesn't mean you are a bad guy.
Kemp also is heavy against the whole division the dems are trying.

I will admit I proudly voted for him in 2018
 
Neither of these men are "establishment" in the sense of the word its normally used. I have worked downstream of/beside both of them at one of my current companies and they are very conservative and very populist and do intend to deliver on these things for their voters. What they both have done is say no to Trump at some point in the last few years thus have been labelled a RINO. This is all equally true of DeSantis, although its harder to argue in good faith he's establishment considering his whole career has been teaparty/freedom caucus/maga.

The thing is after all that has happened, there has to be an accounting.

You have lot of very pissed off people and a political scene that proved that their willing to break the law to get what they want. The buracracy needs to be punished and Trump has the most motivation to do so.
 

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