TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Biden & Blinky need to shut the FUCK UP & stay out of Israel's business.
So can Israel do the same and not make its problems America's problems which ....tends to happen a bit too much frequently? And now that we are it...the rest of Europe and the world at large? Without using the excuses of "if you don't help me you are against me?" or "anti-semitism" or whatever their think-thanks like the Daily Wire can come up?
We arleady knew that.But,are you aware of facts,that Izrael gave power over Gaza to Hamas first,and then they knew about coming attack?
@TheRejectionist ,embassies are target now.notching really changed.But,it is good,that jews want get rid of that bloody clown Natanjahu.
I mean Netanyahu is the least of my worries...
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
So can Israel do the same and not make its problems America's problems which ....tends to happen a bit too much frequently? And now that we are it...the rest of Europe and the world at large? Without using the excuses of "if you don't help me you are against me?" or "anti-semitism" or whatever their think-thanks like the Daily Wire can come up?

I mean Netanyahu is the least of my worries...
I'm curious as to how Israel has made its problems America's problems?
 

prinCZess

Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
Israel's follow up on the aid convoy strike:


The full report:

It bears mention on this vein that when the US drone-strike'd a civilian aid worker and his family on the way out of Afghanistan, we didn't do jack or shit to punish anyone involved.

*No U.S. Troops Will Be Punished for Deadly Kabul Strike, Pentagon Chief Decides (Published 2021)

More broadly...
Was listening to a politics podcast (We're Not Wrong--would recommend to folks) and one of the hosts is...very all-in on Palestine and the Palestinian 'narrative', and was incapable of comprehending how it could happen and suspected the Israeli motive was denying Palestinians access to aid by essentially bullying-out an aid organization.
Which...Is a level of conspiracy that's impressive but by no means uncommon on the topic? But also...countered by the existing 'conspiracy theory' of aid workers actively assisting Hamas (not World Kitchen, but if you're Israel...well, it would be unsurprising if they had a US-attitude-towards-Muslims general suspicion towards any aid group after the shitassery the UN aid org got up to), and that one is to the point that it would frankly not be surprising if the Israelis were fed-up with, at very least, Gaza existing in the international limbo bullshit world where Hamas gets to run it as the strongest prison-gang and periodically kill Israelis and they're not allowed to do anything about it without getting shit on for violating the Laws of War against an opponent with no respect for those same laws and who never recieves the same standard of judgement.

Like, I doubt the strike on World Kitchen was deliberate (the last thing Israel probably wants is this PR shitfest), but I could understand there being some in the Israeli military, government, or populace who look at it and go 'well, at least there being less aid pushed things towards requiring a permanent solution'.

And yeah, that is 'Final Solution'-y, but, well...Gazans have had decades of their own special enclave to figure shit out within and have failed repeatedly despite gobs of support from the UN and international places, and has steadfastly rejected any group with normalization and statehood goals when given the chance to vote on leadership, and has steadfastly ascribed to the philosophy of force so...At a certain point on the nation-state level, just like on individual, you reach the 'Find out' stage of 'fuck around and find out'. If you continually assert force as the method by which you will resolve your conflict with an opponent, your opponent eventually discarding their kid gloves and responding with the same attitude is THOROUGHLY UNSURPRISING AND TO BE EXPECTED.
 

DarthOne

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So can Israel do the same and not make its problems America's problems which ....tends to happen a bit too much frequently? And now that we are it...the rest of Europe and the world at large? Without using the excuses of "if you don't help me you are against me?" or "anti-semitism" or whatever their think-thanks like the Daily Wire can come up?

I mean Netanyahu is the least of my worries...
Through AIPAC. And many other lobbyists or fellow travellers like Rubin and Shapiro are just one of many examples.

Thank you!

And I’d be against it if, for example, the British were doing this sort of thing. It’s not a ‘I hate Israel/the Jews’ thing. Because I don’t.
 

Marduk

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It bears mention on this vein that when the US drone-strike'd a civilian aid worker and his family on the way out of Afghanistan, we didn't do jack or shit to punish anyone involved.

*No U.S. Troops Will Be Punished for Deadly Kabul Strike, Pentagon Chief Decides (Published 2021)

More broadly...
Was listening to a politics podcast (We're Not Wrong--would recommend to folks) and one of the hosts is...very all-in on Palestine and the Palestinian 'narrative', and was incapable of comprehending how it could happen and suspected the Israeli motive was denying Palestinians access to aid by essentially bullying-out an aid organization.
Which...Is a level of conspiracy that's impressive but by no means uncommon on the topic? But also...countered by the existing 'conspiracy theory' of aid workers actively assisting Hamas (not World Kitchen, but if you're Israel...well, it would be unsurprising if they had a US-attitude-towards-Muslims general suspicion towards any aid group after the shitassery the UN aid org got up to), and that one is to the point that it would frankly not be surprising if the Israelis were fed-up with, at very least, Gaza existing in the international limbo bullshit world where Hamas gets to run it as the strongest prison-gang and periodically kill Israelis and they're not allowed to do anything about it without getting shit on for violating the Laws of War against an opponent with no respect for those same laws and who never recieves the same standard of judgement.

Like, I doubt the strike on World Kitchen was deliberate (the last thing Israel probably wants is this PR shitfest), but I could understand there being some in the Israeli military, government, or populace who look at it and go 'well, at least there being less aid pushed things towards requiring a permanent solution'.

And yeah, that is 'Final Solution'-y, but, well...Gazans have had decades of their own special enclave to figure shit out within and have failed repeatedly despite gobs of support from the UN and international places, and has steadfastly rejected any group with normalization and statehood goals when given the chance to vote on leadership, and has steadfastly ascribed to the philosophy of force so...At a certain point on the nation-state level, just like on individual, you reach the 'Find out' stage of 'fuck around and find out'. If you continually assert force as the method by which you will resolve your conflict with an opponent, your opponent eventually discarding their kid gloves and responding with the same attitude is THOROUGHLY UNSURPRISING AND TO BE EXPECTED.
People forget that Gaza is not just some random nationalist movement aiming for own people's independence, comfort and well being.
No.

It is a specifically created proxy of the Muslim world existing solely to fight for Muslim world's ownership of the Holy Land since the Arabs got messed up in the more open attempts at warfare that came before. This is what's behind all the seemingly bullshit and nonsense stuff that's happening with it over the decades and why there can't be a lasting peace. They didn't set up that proxy to have lasting peace, if they wanted a lasting peace then Egypt could still own Gaza and Jordan could own West Bank without fucking terror orgs in the mix acting as annoying and reckless middlemen.
But when Jordan and Egypt want to openly invade Israel that's terrible for business, they get bombed by Israel and Israel's allies get mad about the invasion, and that's their problem, not Qataris, Saudis, Iranians or any private entities who still want the fight to continue, so Egypt and Jordan, at least their leadership, are kinda done - and those who are not done, state and private, have another proxy.

So a proxy solution was made as a compromise in form of "Palestine" that can be a black hole for trapping all the downsides of continuing the fight that doesn't let the consequences of continuing to support "the cause" hit the main supporters of it too much (no one likes getting a JDAM through the window) when yet another campaign against Israel fails. Instead the Arabs get to play victim as the proxy gets clobbered while moronic bleeding hearts of the West also chip in (the official explanation in jihadist circles is that Allah clouds the minds of despicable infidels so they give money to the righteous cause of Muslims fighting for the Holy Land).
As such, as long as there is a meaningful amount of rich believers in political Islam in the world, this initiative will be funded, and as long as it is funded and the proxy charade is respected by the world, it cannot end. It is such a massive cause in those circles that it has even transcended sectarian divides, with the Iranian Shia theocracy providing a big part of the support these days.

Where do aid orgs fit into this? Some are an opportunistic way provided for the idiot westerners to feed money to the cause without getting scared off by shit something like Fatah, nevermind Hamas, normally does with money, who unlike the Arab side more often than not don't understand what they are really supporting, but it changes nothing whether they understand - after all, money is money, and local proxy managers who don't care about PR can piggyback on the aid orgs and skim some goods off that, while them taking care of the survival needs of designated cannon fodder/human shield population means the precious budget and attention of more "cause oriented" parties can be focused on fighting and politicking.
Some, especially educational and media ones, are a way for more idiotic westerners and less dedicated Islamists to support the cause by funding propaganda, internal and external alike.
And some, generally not supported by any westerners, only more dedicated Islamists, are outright shady shell companies to move resources to the local jihadists who do the actual fighting and get them war materiel and salaries.
WCK seems to be the kind of org that fits group 1, Israel has no reason to target those due to low benefit relative to particularly bad optics to the western populations this has.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
When Trump defeats Biden in November, Trump will let Netanyahu & the IDF finish the job.
That's wishful thinking.



In the last 3 years and half Bibi isn't exactly Donald's top priority and hopefully this will transform into something positive for the world.
 

ATP

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When Trump defeats Biden in November, Trump will let Netanyahu & the IDF finish the job.
Why? Natanjahu never was his friend.Trump is president of USA,not Izrael,and would do what is good for USA.
Considering,that helping USA always end bad for your country,he probably stop it.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Good video but it missed the bit where he was beaten up recently by some Ethiopian Israelis he was harassing IIRC.
So twice he got beat up?

I remember he was reported to have verbally harassed a female Israeli officer without any type of provocation and got a beat up by her and few others.
Had I been her man, brother or father I would throw him like a sack of potatoes with clenched fists. He choose to f around and find out with the nationality/ethnicity that is renown for being feisty at best even when "calm" and have personal experience of that.
 

Jormungandr

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So twice he got beat up?

I remember he was reported to have verbally harassed a female Israeli officer without any type of provocation and got a beat up by her and few others.
Had I been her man, brother or father I would throw him like a sack of potatoes with clenched fists. He choose to f around and find out with the nationality/ethnicity that is renown for being feisty at best even when "calm" and have personal experience of that.
This guy is going to get himself killed.

I'm not joking -- If someone did a TtS saying "Muhammed was a pedophile" or something like that, he's going to be fucking lynched in the streets. smh This guy really wants a Darwin Award, doesn't he?
 

King Arts

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This guy is going to get himself killed.

I'm not joking -- If someone did a TtS saying "Muhammed was a pedophile" or something like that, he's going to be fucking lynched in the streets. smh This guy really wants a Darwin Award, doesn't he?
Send him to Russia or Iran next? Oooh or maybe North Korea?
 

ATP

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Jewish philosopher,Yoram Hazomy,wrote book supporting nation states.
I only read reviev,but,according to it,uniwersal state is utopia,and natural order are national states.
WW2 happened not becouse germans were nationalists,but imperialists,and many other universal systems,like islam or marxist,are worst then nationalism.

We have two factors which try to destroy normal states - liberal philosophy about "end of history" and american domination.
For him,30-year war was war of roman tradition empire versus emerging national states,and he support national states there.

Liberal order is for him utopia which could become totalitarian state.

He also see,that state is wery fragile thing - if it is not just,it would either fall or would be conqered.

I mostly agree with him,and hope,that manage find his book in some library.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Using us as cannon fodder to fight their wars and driving fleeing hordes of their enemies towards our countries.

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