ATP

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Israel Is real! :D ;)



But your country undermines the rule of law:


Or at least the EU thinks that it does.

1.Every country is real.
2.Basically we try to made our judges as they are in germany.Germans claim now,that it is breaking rule of law.
When they are doing the same.

And do not change fact,that jews killed journalist and attacked funeral procession.
 

49ersfootball

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Israel Is real! :D ;)



But your country undermines the rule of law:


Or at least the EU thinks that it does.
What did Poland do now ? 🤔
 

ATP

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What did Poland do now ? 🤔

Nothing.Our eunuchs ,after valiant sabre-rattling,surrender.
Ukraine is fighting for its freedom in real war against Moscov.
We surrender without one schoot to Berlin.

Only God and Holy Mary could save us now...but why THEY should care?
 

History Learner

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This is Turkey, you will notice it is in the crossroads between the middle east, europe, and the asian step. It controls all access to the black sea. The only way Ukrianian, Bulgarian, Romanian, and Georgian goods get onto the med and then the international sea is by their say so.

This control over the black sea naturally makes who ever controls the straits very wealthy historically speaking. This is the power that made Byzantium great and the Turks control it. Its a naturally wealthy region which is why people have fought over antolia for centuries.

The problem is that their location also means their surrounded by potential enemies, Which fucked the Byzantines and then fucked the Turks when the West became strong. The only thing that saved the ottoman empire and the turks was that europe remained firmly retarded and up its own ass.

Still their luck ran out in ww1 and the ottoman empire died the turks kept what I consider the most valuable chunk of their old empire and basically kept quiet and rebuilt themselves.

Now their more or less industrialized look around and realized that every one around them is weak and stupid. The Balkans? Their demographics suck and their the balkans. The middle east? The arabs are not only laughably bad in a fight their countries are more or last collapsing. Russia? Their facing the god damned end. Oportunties all around, any place they move they will most likely conqure and do so easily.

I firmly expect a resurgence of Turkish power soon.

George Friedman predicted as such in 2008 in his "The Next 100 Years" and so far has been very accurate overall in regards to his projections for them and Poland. Japan, China and Russia, not so much.....
 

Scottty

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There is a solution and its mass expulsions.

You go in with tanks, bulldozers and machine guns and you just kick the Palastinians out. They will never be capable of peace so you just accept that the left will hate you for a decade and rip the bandaid off. If they had done this during the 60s this would all have been over by now.

Machiavelli would approve.

Well, there is always Syria if Assad will ever get overthrown. Israel could make a deal with the Syrian rebels to overthrow Assad in exchange for resettling Palestinian Arabs en masse in Syria, no?

In one word: Nyet.
If the Syrian rebels were capable of "overthrowing" Assad, they would have done so by now.
More realistic to make a deal with Assad to take in those people, in exchange for the West giving up on trying to overthrow him.
(But he'd never trust the West on that, and he'd be right.)

A few decades before or a few decades from now.
This current era of feel good nonsense is ending fast and the mean times are coming back.

IMHO the mean times never left. What will end is the ability of the feelgood people to stick their fingers in their ears and la-la-la about it.


Nothing.Our eunuchs ,after valiant sabre-rattling,surrender.
Ukraine is fighting for its freedom in real war against Moscov.
We surrender without one schoot to Berlin.

Only God and Holy Mary could save us now...but why THEY should care?

Well.... if by "God" you mean Jorge Bergoglio, aka Fake Pope Frankie, then I suspect that he's totally cool with the prospect of white Christian Poles being erased from existence and their land populated by brown-skinned Muslims. Because Tolerance and Diversity.

But if by "God" you mean the Creator? And you want to know why He should care?
Well, you tell me.

(Puts down a table and chair, plants a poster saying "If the Polish people went extinct, nothing of value would be lost. Change my mind." Pours glass of water...)

Better yet... you tell Him!
No seriously - you want God to care? Well, you and a bunch of your fellow Poles had better get busy praying, and telling Him why He should care!
 

GoldRanger

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“pause mistreatment”. Which means they’ll continue later. 🤔
"Mistreatment". I think the US administration either (correctly) doesn't see settlements and riot control as mistreatment, or they do but don't care beyond optics.

Half of Israeli Jews would seriously consider marrying a non-Jew if they lived in the Diaspora, even if for most of them it would not be their first option:




How is this relevant? I wouldn't have minded marrying a non-Jew even in Israel (I've ended up marrying a Jew but her Jewishness played a role of exactly 0 in my decision process).
 

ATP

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Machiavelli would approve.



In one word: Nyet.
If the Syrian rebels were capable of "overthrowing" Assad, they would have done so by now.
More realistic to make a deal with Assad to take in those people, in exchange for the West giving up on trying to overthrow him.
(But he'd never trust the West on that, and he'd be right.)



IMHO the mean times never left. What will end is the ability of the feelgood people to stick their fingers in their ears and la-la-la about it.




Well.... if by "God" you mean Jorge Bergoglio, aka Fake Pope Frankie, then I suspect that he's totally cool with the prospect of white Christian Poles being erased from existence and their land populated by brown-skinned Muslims. Because Tolerance and Diversity.

But if by "God" you mean the Creator? And you want to know why He should care?
Well, you tell me.

(Puts down a table and chair, plants a poster saying "If the Polish people went extinct, nothing of value would be lost. Change my mind." Pours glass of water...)

Better yet... you tell Him!
No seriously - you want God to care? Well, you and a bunch of your fellow Poles had better get busy praying, and telling Him why He should care!

Bergolio could be fake pope - but,unfortunatelly,could be rightfull,too.And he is part of Biden-China-Putin scheme,so he really want us dead.

Jesus and Holy Mary want save us - but we must gave them chance and become good catholics.I pray,that would happen.
If not - world do not need Poland which abadonned God and our Queen.

P.S you are right,if Izraeli followed Machiavelli advices,they would have less problems now.
 

WolfBear

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How is this relevant? I wouldn't have minded marrying a non-Jew even in Israel (I've ended up marrying a Jew but her Jewishness played a role of exactly 0 in my decision process).

Well, I just view it as interesting that a lot of Israelis apparently don't want non-Jewish immigrants (even those who are not anti-Semitic and who can contribute to Israel) but are nevertheless willing to marry non-Jews.
 

GoldRanger

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Well, I just view it as interesting that a lot of Israelis apparently don't want non-Jewish immigrants (even those who are not anti-Semitic and who can contribute to Israel) but are nevertheless willing to marry non-Jews.
Nothing particularly surprising about it though? There's a huge difference between wanting to share a life with someone, or wanting that someone's ethno-cultural group to have political power over you. These two are very, very much not the same.

For one, divorce is easier than mass deportation.
 

WolfBear

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Nothing particularly surprising about it though? There's a huge difference between wanting to share a life with someone, or wanting that someone's ethno-cultural group to have political power over you. These two are very, very much not the same.

For one, divorce is easier than mass deportation.

BTW, do you believe that even merit-based non-Muslim non-Jewish immigrants carry a serious risk of having themselves and/or their descendants eventually oppress and/or persecute Israel's Jewish population? By merit-based, I mean have Israel accept several million non-Jews and non-Muslims on a completely meritocratic basis.


@GoldRanger you were right. Netanyahu will likely soon be back in the game.

Netanyahu is a sly fox. A very sly fox. Though I wonder what happens if neither he nor his rivals can actually get to 61 seats. A national unity government? Or a second round of elections, as in 2019?
 

GoldRanger

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BTW, do you believe that even merit-based non-Muslim non-Jewish immigrants carry a serious risk of having themselves and/or their descendants eventually oppress and/or persecute Israel's Jewish population? By merit-based, I mean have Israel accept several million non-Jews and non-Muslims on a completely meritocratic basis.
The immigration laws should stay exactly as they are today. Period. That's all I have to say.
 

WolfBear

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I'm honestly sympathetic to the idea of Israel pushing the Palestines out of the West Bank completely. Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

Would you have applied the same logic to the Algerians during the Algerian War of Independence if you were French back then?

Also, re: Israel: It appears that in per capita terms Israel has been relatively generous towards Ukrainian refugees in comparison to the US:


But there's still a little bit of work to be done. Please see my Haaretz link right above here.
 

The Whispering Monk

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Would you have applied the same logic to the Algerians during the Algerian War of Independence if you were French back then?
You aren't comparing apples to apples at all here. Israel is the nation in question, and Palestine is purely an Arab ethnicity that the Arab nations use to beat up on Israel. It's essentially a foreign arm of aggression pointed at Israel.

The problem is different. So the same logic cannot apply.

My point earlier is simply that the Palestinian "people" have spend any cred or good will they've ever had. As a nation, they support the same ideas as Iran, the eradication/extermination of the Jewish state and people.

That is simply evil, and it must be opposed with strenuous might.
 

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