Israel ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡± State of Israel Thread

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If only China and Israel could ally together, and Saudi Arabia could remain neutral, Marxism may be gone and the West saved by the end of this decade.

Marduk said:
ran's leaders are not isolationist clowns like some people here and have no intention of losing their beliefs and brains alike to become that. They are theocrats with ambitions. Islamic revolution, rings a bell? It sure does in Iran...
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They definitely do have ambitions, but like Russia, their ambitions are far beyond their actual capabilities. But not hopelessly so, which means they make the ideal enemies. Just threatening enough to justify any measures taken to defeat them, but weak enough that victory can be assured.

If only the Republican Party could get their act together.......
 
King Arts said:
ATP there is a difference between giving support to the then legitimate government of Iran and actively sending soldiers overseas. Also Irans leaders should grow up and stop holding a grudge they are now in charge and should act in a way that is best for their country.
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helping torture is never legitimate.
And Iran leaders were not only victims.
Besides,did jew grew up and forget about grudges made before izrael was created? i think not.
They now still accusing Poland for german crimes.
 
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Israel Attack on Iran Is What World War III Looks Like

Like countless other hostilities, the stealthy Israeli missile and drone strike on Iran doesn’t risk war. It is war.
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Gonna be posting a lot of excerpts since they paywalled it

But this, in fact, is what actual war looks like these days: Sometimes it's a volley of 300 missiles and drones, and sometimes it is lean, targeted, and carried out covertly. Gone are the days of vast conquering armies and conventional military confrontations between two parties. So long as experts, the government, and the media worry only about a kind of war that is obsolete, it cannot see the war right in front of our faces.

The misconception has even infected the U.S. government.

"The downplaying of direct attacks on its soil may indicate the Islamic Republic lacks the desire, or capability, to match its bluster with professed military might," a State Department communiqué produced after the attack and obtained by The Intercept says. "Over weeks of unprecedented military exchanges between Iran and Israel … Iranian officials appear keen to avoid further escalation."
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Don't agree with everything here. But it is an interesting perspective. Perhaps we've been missing the forest for the trees so to speak and are already engaged in a form of World War III. This article doesn't even mention the 4.5 million dead as a result of Bush's regime change wars in the Middle East or the 7 million who were killed in a likely Communist bioterrorist attack...
 
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IndyFront said:
theintercept.com

Israel Attack on Iran Is What World War III Looks Like

Like countless other hostilities, the stealthy Israeli missile and drone strike on Iran doesn’t risk war. It is war.
theintercept.com theintercept.com

Gonna be posting a lot of excerpts since they paywalled it
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Holy socialist hypocrisy, now they even paywall their propaganda.

And no, in most societies where war is a constant, the public doesn't even have to feel the pain of war, except in that the military dominates everything and robs everything else of resources: programs to fight poverty, food, housing, health care, transportation, climate change.
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That's as far as i've gotten in this bullshit steak. If only we lived in that world, where western countries starve all the listed socialist initiatives of funding for the sake of their military and defence industry.
Wish i would wake up in that alternate reality. A reality where Scholz, Biden and Sunak go on a stage and announce that not a single dollar, euro or pound will be given to climate spending or third world poverty for as long as there are communists in Beijing, Russians in Crimea and ayatollahs in Tehran.
I may not be the only one to think that would be based as fuck.

Minor brushfire wars in savage shitholes third, nevermind mere major organized criminality there, world war do not make, if it did, we would need to add world war zero and probably several negative ones to history books.

A world war is when world's major powers come to blows full contact, not proxy warfare, otherwise we would have been on world war 4 because the cold war would be the 3.
 
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ATP said:
helping torture is never legitimate.
And Iran leaders were not only victims.
Besides,did jew grew up and forget about grudges made before izrael was created? i think not.
They now still accusing Poland for german crimes.
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Israel did not torture anyone. They just helped the Shahs secret police by giving them information about rebels.

Tell me if we know that ISIS terrorists are in Russia should we not tell the Russians where they are just because the Russians are brutal and will torture them?
 
Cherico said:
The shah did nothing wrong.
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This is...basically correct. Insofar as it could be said of any Middle Eastern dictator. It's certainly more true of him than it is of any member of the Saud dynasty.

Jimmy Carter, however, did.

American distancing from Israel is, honestly, a bit remniscent of the distancing from Iran--albeit driven more by domestic agitation against Israel than there was domestic impetus against the Shah. They even share the same play-acted pearl-clutching over Israeli actions by the US gov't and the caucus against Israeli aid that goes very quiet when it's the Saudis, Turks, Hamas, or even the new and 'improved' Islamic-Republican Iran doing it.
 
No, the Shah was a son of a bitch. And to make things worse, not even a cunning one.

Why do we get all the dumbest dictators and the Commies get all the cunning ones? Every single major Communist leader except Pol Pot died peacefully while in power, while anticommunist ones either get usurped or bite the hand that feeds them.

Except Franco and Salazar, of course.

Marduk said:
Holy socialist hypocrisy, now they even paywall their propaganda.
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And thank God for that. As long as our propaganda is cheaper than theirs, we are still in the game.

I'd never have become a Conservative if right wing media wasn't cheaper to read.
 
King Arts said:
Israel did not torture anyone. They just helped the Shahs secret police by giving them information about rebels.

Tell me if we know that ISIS terrorists are in Russia should we not tell the Russians where they are just because the Russians are brutal and will torture them?
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And those rebels remembered that,when they take power.
There is no russia,only kgbstan - and all therrorists there are working for kgb.
 
ATP said:
They now still accusing Poland for german crimes.
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More like the Poles can't read or understand the nuance of basic English or at least the ones who rely on google translate.
 
The Intercept: "Gone are the days of vast conquering armies and conventional military confrontations between two parties."

Holy shit, what decade do they think we're in? It may be true that not every conflict is like that, but it's sure as hell false that no conflicts are like that.
 
Free-Stater 101 said:
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More like the Poles can't read or understand the nuance of basic English or at least the ones who rely on google translate.
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did you really forget what they are talking about Poland there ?
Basically ,every time they wrote about us,even pro-jewish politicians like Duda,they accuse us of being antisemites.
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Duda is almost always doing what jews want - but,he is still antisemite for them.
 
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