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United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

Floridaman

Well-known member
Then why do the "mayors" even bother with voting? For appearance's sake? Yeah, probably that. Disgusting.
In the old wild west, they've gotten tarred, feathered, and forced to leave the city on foot into exile.
Easy, if they win this is proof that their ideas are supported, and thus those of us who oppose them are wrong and are threatening democracy, and if they lose, well they argue that democracy is under threat from populism and thus they must do it anyway since the people clearly don’t know what they want.
 

Tzeentchean Perspective

Well-known member
Direct evidence of the link between BLM and the CCP.


Looking at wikipedia shows that this group was founded in 1977 to help Chinese immigrants in Boston get situated, they advocate for things like low-income housing and expanded health coverage. Still, it's quite peculiar that an organization founded to advance the interests of Chinese-Americans is making inroads into the black community. Especially given the mentioned bigotry against Africans in the CCP. Probably the PRC getting back at the USA for the Hong Kong riots.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
Easy, if they win this is proof that their ideas are supported, and thus those of us who oppose them are wrong and are threatening democracy, and if they lose, well they argue that democracy is under threat from populism and thus they must do it anyway since the people clearly don’t know what they want.
Basically, as long as you don't take the rights of the governed seriously, you've got nothing lose. Although to be honest, there didn't used to be all this rhetoric spewed over it; used to be that they'd just either pretend that the vote never happened, or claim that it was actually about something irrelevant to what they wanted to do.

To reiterate, this is something that has been happening for decades around here; I remember my parents complaining about it long before I began to take politics seriously. This area used to be fairly middle class; you could walk the street at night without having to worry about your safety. Now there are certain areas I would not recommend you linger at even in the daylight, and it's all because of the piss-poor management of our local government; who do things like build low-income housing, and then complain about all the lower-class people who move here to live in them.

They also waste tax-payer money building a performance arts center which is so expensive to visit nobody can afford to do so, while doing everything they can to sabotage the far cheaper local community theater, because they see it as competition for their pet project. Oh, and to put a cherry on top, they banned the opening of any new thrift stores because they felt such businesses "promoted homelessness", even though they've been having serious difficulty filling empty storefronts as it is; although to be fair, many of those are being torn down (including the old location of what was once a very popular thrift store, who, under the new ban, was not allowed to move to a new location in the area) so that they can build a station for the light rail here.

Though now that I think of it, nearly all of those stores were actually in use and had to be forced out, so I have no idea what the heck those arrogant jerks are thinking. Oh, and just to reiterate something I've stated elsewhere on this forum, most of the people elected to our local government only live here for the duration of their term in office, and then go back home; which often is somewhere in California. In short; myself and many other people do not like those who have been running this city into the ground, but there's never been much we can do about it.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
I'm just going to toss a book recommendation at you; Marriage, a History: How Love Conquered Marriage by Stephanie Coontz. It goes in depth into the history of marriage, and how recent the idea of marrying for love is; properly citing the hundreds of other sources researched to come to the conclusions presented.

...So, 'educate myself.'

Sorry, I'm really not interested in spending my time reading an entire book I'd have to pay my own money for, in order to make someone else's argument against my position. Especially about as ridiculous an issue as this.

I'll sum my own argument on the issue like this:

Human psychology has not observably changed in recorded history. Different cultures emphasize different things to different degrees, but I have yet to see any evidence that so drastic a change that romance was considered unrelated to the 'strictly-utilitarian' institution of marriage until recent history is remotely close to true.

The idea that marriage was immensely different historically does, however, conform to the sort of 'blank slate' narrative a number of ideologues are dead-set on advancing, because if it's true, it'll allow them to reprogram society to be how they want it to be.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Human psychology has not observably changed in recorded history.

Reminds me, I don’t think we’re that genetically different from our Stone Age Caveman ancestors

If anything, many of our animal instincts are what’s leading to our irrationality

Women who like “bad boys” are unintentionally seeking “stronger mates” even if they’re dirty, stupid, dangerous and have terrible personalities

There’s also a subtle desire to dominate other people and a sort of obsession with “tribes” ingratiated in them

It’s why the Far Left looks so hostile to all of its “opposition” and turns on itself and constantly does things to achieve “dominance” even over nerds who just want to play/read/watch/enjoy stuff

What BLM and ANTIFA are doing is achieving “dominance” over things way bigger than weak nerds and they are also by doing looting and demanding money or positions with new laws or policies on even Cuban Communities, they get that “wealth” which attracts new mates

Whether they will have sex or not or even reproduce and take care of children to begin with. They’re also obviously VERY emotional but still use their heads a bit in order to achieve what they want.

As Isaac Arthur kinda said, things like offering up food and even human sacrifice to some “Gods” may look very dumb and irrational and a “waste” but in a way its amongst the oldest forms of “investments”

BLM & ANTIFA & other Far Left types who do things like wreck themselves and others, are in a way expecting a “reward” from their “Gods” to come their way at some point

Whether they know it or not, since the Far Left or especially BLM are a sort of religion now, they’re all using the logic of primitives but with a far greater imbalance and with even less desire to actually truly survive and prosper
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
Reminds me, I don’t think we’re that genetically different from our Stone Age Caveman ancestors

If anything, many of our animal instincts are what’s leading to our irrationality

Women who like “bad boys” are unintentionally seeking “stronger mates” even if they’re dirty, stupid, dangerous and have terrible personalities

There’s also a subtle desire to dominate other people and a sort of obsession with “tribes” ingratiated in them

It’s why the Far Left looks so hostile to all of its “opposition” and turns on itself and constantly does things to achieve “dominance” even over nerds who just want to play/read/watch/enjoy stuff

What BLM and ANTIFA are doing is achieving “dominance” over things way bigger than weak nerds and they are also by doing looting and demanding money or positions with new laws or policies on even Cuban Communities, they get that “wealth” which attracts new mates

Whether they will have sex or not or even reproduce and take care of children to begin with. They’re also obviously VERY emotional but still use their heads a bit in order to achieve what they want.

As Isaac Arthur kinda said, things like offering up food and even human sacrifice to some “Gods” may look very dumb and irrational and a “waste” but in a way its amongst the oldest forms of “investments”

BLM & ANTIFA & other Far Left types who do things like wreck themselves and others, are in a way expecting a “reward” from their “Gods” to come their way at some point

Whether they know it or not, since the Far Left or especially BLM are a sort of religion now, they’re all using the logic of primitives but with a far greater imbalance and with even less desire to actually truly survive and prosper
I've said it for years: humans run on the Windows 10 version of the Ape OS that other monkeys and apes in the animal kingdom use. They just use the older versions with their wetware.
 

Hlaalu Agent

Nerevar going to let you down
Founder
I've said it for years: humans run on the Windows 10 version of the Ape OS that other monkeys and apes in the animal kingdom use. They just use the older versions with their wetware.

So wait, do we need to create an Ape version of linux that is actually good?
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
I've said it for years: humans run on the Windows 10 version of the Ape OS that other monkeys and apes in the animal kingdom use. They just use the older versions with their wetware.
So wait, do we need to create an Ape version of linux that is actually good?




We may need something even more advanced

Someway to install this ability

It will help deal with the hormones that are responsible for all the emotions and instincts that are running wild and whilst those emotions and instincts are fit for an animal in the right circumstances and contexts

They’re not exactly for even stone to bronze age society, just look at how much certain instincts resulted in Pharaohs wasting huge amounts of resources for sonething that may barely even be worth it in one or two generations, and hell those instincts may have resulted in the death of the Neanderthals by prion disease

You will have to let careful thinking and deep introspection that isn’t too affected by strong emotion or bias, do the rest and hope you have enough information for a judgement
 

Hlaalu Agent

Nerevar going to let you down
Founder



We may need something even more advanced

Someway to install this ability

It will help deal with the hormones that are responsible for all the emotions and instincts that are running wild and whilst those emotions and instincts are fit for an animal in the right circumstances and contexts

They’re not exactly for even stone to bronze age society, just look at how much certain instincts resulted in Pharaohs wasting huge amounts of resources for sonething that may barely even be worth it in one or two generations, and hell those instincts may have resulted in the death of the Neanderthals by prion disease

You will have to let careful thinking and deep introspection that isn’t too affected by strong emotion or bias, do the rest and hope you have enough information for a judgement


We already have or had such a thing in the past in case of the Dune reference. It was called stoicism- it gets a bad reputation due to how it is understood these days. But Stoicism is about mastery of one's passions, not denial of them, to feel them, but in moderation, at the right time, the right place, and the right amount.

And we could very well do with such a philosophy today. For many of our problems are caused by us being uncritical of our emotions, not trying to understand them, or regulate them. We become slaves to our passions, and slaves to those who can sway them.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
We already have or had such a thing in the past in case of the Dune reference. It was called stoicism- it gets a bad reputation due to how it is understood these days. But Stoicism is about mastery of one's passions, not denial of them, to feel them, but in moderation, at the right time, the right place, and the right amount.

And we could very well do with such a philosophy today. For many of our problems are caused by us being uncritical of our emotions, not trying to understand them, or regulate them. We become slaves to our passions, and slaves to those who can sway them.

Yeah, but I was thinking less philosophy and more borderline-superpower or a substance that can help regulate it all


Kinda like this, bonus it helps remember and do things better
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
We already have or had such a thing in the past in case of the Dune reference. It was called stoicism- it gets a bad reputation due to how it is understood these days. But Stoicism is about mastery of one's passions, not denial of them, to feel them, but in moderation, at the right time, the right place, and the right amount.

And we could very well do with such a philosophy today. For many of our problems are caused by us being uncritical of our emotions, not trying to understand them, or regulate them. We become slaves to our passions, and slaves to those who can sway them.

One of the most subtle but destructive cultural movements of the 20th century, was bringing 'follow your heart' into dominance.

This video touches on it pretty well, and is only about 5 minutes long:



Some of you won't jive with the Christian elements, but it makes points I think you'll still agree with.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
We already have or had such a thing in the past in case of the Dune reference. It was called stoicism- it gets a bad reputation due to how it is understood these days. But Stoicism is about mastery of one's passions, not denial of them, to feel them, but in moderation, at the right time, the right place, and the right amount.

And we could very well do with such a philosophy today. For many of our problems are caused by us being uncritical of our emotions, not trying to understand them, or regulate them. We become slaves to our passions, and slaves to those who can sway them.


I always felt scenes like this from the old Kung Fu TV show resonated with me in a way I wish it would with other people.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
We already have or had such a thing in the past in case of the Dune reference. It was called stoicism- it gets a bad reputation due to how it is understood these days. But Stoicism is about mastery of one's passions, not denial of them, to feel them, but in moderation, at the right time, the right place, and the right amount.

And we could very well do with such a philosophy today. For many of our problems are caused by us being uncritical of our emotions, not trying to understand them, or regulate them. We become slaves to our passions, and slaves to those who can sway them.

Stoicism will come back maybe not in its old form but it will come back because in an era of uncontrolled outrage mobs the lessons it imparts just become more valuable.
 
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The dominant ideology of today is “passion, passion, passion”.

There is no discipline or bridling of passions. And so we see the results.

People that live by their hearts’ alone will be led like fish to the net by the bait in front of them.

There is a long list of causes for why this happened. But I’d say it’s a feminine way of being.

A society that retained its emphasis on restraint, and stoic dispositions would not have succumbed to the crisis we face today.
 

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