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It is sad if Poland has more tanks then UK
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It is sad if Poland has more tanks then UK
Harlock
I should have expected that really
I guess the pay off is the UK dumping money into the Navy instead. They have two massive procurements just about to start, a new generation of Nuke boats plus new trident missiles which is going to be a huge chunk of their budget, plus several new frigates so those shiny new carriers aren't holed by some bearded blokes in a speed boat 
It seems that everything needs replacing all at once, the Tornado and Harrier jets which make the main strike arm are gone and the Typhoon is a bit dainty to be a real bomb truck so the Air force needs an entirely new strike force. Then the Navy has its boomers and its frigates all reach the end of their life cycle at the same time. Finally the army needs a big upgrade on its tanks and more so the old IFVs.
Plus of course that assumes these things work The Navy seems to have issues with its engines in warm water and the F-35 has its own saga. Even the Typhoon which seems to be doing okay now isn't 100% and really wants several buffs to its radar at the very least. Lot of demand and probably a reduction in money given the economic situation, something somewhere might end up breaking.
Though in a rare moment of clarity the Navy saved money by firing a bunch of desk riding senior officers, so maybe there is hope
It seems that everything needs replacing all at once, the Tornado and Harrier jets which make the main strike arm are gone and the Typhoon is a bit dainty to be a real bomb truck so the Air force needs an entirely new strike force. Then the Navy has its boomers and its frigates all reach the end of their life cycle at the same time. Finally the army needs a big upgrade on its tanks and more so the old IFVs.
Plus of course that assumes these things work
The Navy seems to have issues with its engines in warm water and the F-35 has its own saga. Even the Typhoon which seems to be doing okay now isn't 100% and really wants several buffs to its radar at the very least. Lot of demand and probably a reduction in money given the economic situation, something somewhere might end up breaking.Though in a rare moment of clarity the Navy saved money by firing a bunch of desk riding senior officers, so maybe there is hope
Tryglaw
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Sad for UK rather then us.
I really hope we'll take the K2PL offered by S.Koreans, it's a damn good tank with tech transfer for local production. Our T-72s even with various upgrades are obsolete, and reading between the lines there have been indications a lot of the Leos we got from Germans were picked for handover due to being worn-out crap. And the upgrade package we bought from Germany didn't include the longer barrel, nor IIRC did the thermal sight get moved so it still forms a weak spot on turret's front.
Tryglaw
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Have you checked to see if your guys can fit in?
We'll have to deploy the folding wings variant of Hussar, much like planes on aircraft carriers.
Poland seems to be moving away from the eastern style stuff and into the western style woth Korean vehicles and American helpSad for UK rather then us.
Aaron Fox
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Because, at the end of the day, ERA only works once and requires not so significant backing, especially with the 'heavy' grade that is great against APFSDS rounds. Even with EMRA (Electromagnetic Reactive Armor, i.e. the electro-reactive armor that has been coming out as of late, but I call it EMRA because it'll get confusing with Explosive Reactive Armor), you'll need a hefty backing to function. If anything, you'll get a Battletech style situation (or you simply go to such huge sizes that they're not conventionally portable without power armor just so you can stuff pen-aids out the ass to give it the possibility of penetrating a defense envelope) where you are required to spam missiles because active defense backed by the passive defense is just that good.
Missles are already a very large component to current combat doctrine. Convential munitions are also still good enough if you get two shots off or go from the top down where armor is weakest.
Doomsought
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The problem with getting better armor is that FSDS rounds are sitting there waiting for the enemy to solve their overpenetraition problem.
I thought they figured that out by now?
Alaric Volta
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T28 Super Heavy Tank
M36 tank destroyer
M36 tank destroyer
The T28 has two names, the T28 and the T95 depdning on what sources are use.dT28 Super Heavy Tank
M36 tank destroyer
I love both of those so much
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
I still love how the army lost track of the surviving vehicle for just over two decades. I kid you not it was in the middle of a field behind a Bush. Somehow people missed that for over two decades. Even then it was a civilian who found it and then reported it. The poor guys at that base had no idea what it was since the last tanks had left said base in the 50s and they had to call Fort Knox. Fort Knox didn't initially believe that they had a T28/95 since their records indicated it had been scrapped with its twin.
paulobrito
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Bureaucracy at is best. While they don't lose a CVN...
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
How do you lose a 95 ton tank? Ah well it's not like the thing was loaded with ammo. It still makes me nervous that there's a nuke buried in some warehouse that someone left there and nobody knows about.
paulobrito
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Is not that difficult. In the US military can you guess how many different software exist to control (used in a very loose sense) the inventory?
From what I read, almost any place has a different one, most written in Cobol or RPG II or III, that nobody these days knows how they work. Several SecDefs vowed when they take the job, to modernize/standardized the monster. So far, no one gets a positive result.
And I'm not even an american, i bet some US veterans can tell you horror stories about that theme.
From what I read, almost any place has a different one, most written in Cobol or RPG II or III, that nobody these days knows how they work. Several SecDefs vowed when they take the job, to modernize/standardized the monster. So far, no one gets a positive result.
And I'm not even an american, i bet some US veterans can tell you horror stories about that theme.
Well, we all know that the T28/T95 is exceptionally good at camping bush...
paulobrito
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Is a jack-of-all-trades. Stories exist of marvelous scout jobs.... (see some WOT videos)
Nahhh, the very best scout of all is TOG.
Because nobody expects it when TOG earns a scouting medal.
Because nobody expects it when TOG earns a scouting medal.
paulobrito
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Do you have proof of that? I have played my TOG II many times but never get that one. One of my favorite moves is parking sideways on some streets and negate said route to the adversary, even if they kill me. I have seen at least three different videos of T95 get the scout one - weck, I even do that one time, against a very noob adversary team, I confess.