Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

History Learner said:
I'd agree, the reason to hold back is said states funneling money, equipment, and manpower to the insurgency that will result. Hamas launched 5,000+ rockets today, Hezbollah, according to the IDF, can do 100,000 for one example. Nevermind the ability of Saudi Arabia to engage in oil warfare.
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The immediate fight will depend on how well Hamas can protect its arms and leadership. I have not doubt that tons of ordnance is going to be falling on Gaza over the next week AT LEAST.

After that...we'll see just how well trained each side really is. Because THAT will be the primary factor in determining who wins the urban war.
History Learner said:
They tried that in 2006 and the 1980s. Want to know how that worked out for them? Their enemies are stronger today than ever before lol.
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Ehhhh...really depends on what we're talking about. I don't think Israel's enemies are as unified as they were then.
History Learner said:
By all means though, I invite Israel to impale itself with its own stupidity, my only real concern is for all the civilians caught in the crossfire.
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This fight was coming. It was just a matter of when. It's not surprising that Hamas & Palestine waited till America is weakened and distracted by another war.

I don't think Israel will impale damage themselves so much as be subject to more hardship from other countries. Who comes out on top will depend on many, MANY things.
TheRejectionist said:
Dude have you met your average Iranian...ever? I did due to where I live...and they are not hating anyone besides the obvious. Iranian folk are not monolothic, just like the average lad from the US doesn't love Biden the average Iranian doesn't universally hate the State of Israel.
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I was not addressing the 'average Iranian'. I am specifically pointing at the Iranian leadership.
 
Jesus Cristo! Hamas has decided to carry out their own Bucha massacre. Well that's one way to stop aid. I hope Russia, Iran and Syria remembered to file their manufacturing markers off those weapons. I'm thinking Gaza will be razed to the ground within a few days. Santa Maria!

I don't think they, HAMAS and the Palestinians, understand they lost the war the moment they decided to broadcast the massacres on live TV. I have a feeling Iran will be made to regret their publicly broadcast gloating soon after
 
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Terrorists making better sales fir being armed then anything else.
mrttao said:
It is worth noting that in israel, civilians are not allowed to be armed.
Most regular cops only have a baton. Only allowed guns in special circumstances.
Only active duty soldiers go around armed.
So those raided villages had no means of self defense.
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Honestly that is worrisome that they didn't think of this
 
They took Pinoy aid workers hostage. They slaughtered civilians. All sympathy I had for their plight is gone. If they want another Intifada then they deserve annihilation. I fucking hate Muslim terrorists. They are a plague that must be hunted down and wiped out.

Dishonorable Cowards who hide from battle. Like the Chinese they always come back. Marawi was just a symptom of the problem.
 
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Zachowon said:
Honestly that is worrisome that they didn't think of this
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People have been warning about the need for self defense for decades.
The satanic pedophiles ruling class just does not care about the suffering of the commoners. Or how they are being terrorized by the arab mafia (they burn down businesses who won't pay protection. and the police refuse to go after them because they are based in "arab villages". police will arrest you for gun possession / militia if you try to fight back).

There was literally a party in israel that tried to advocate for giving israel a copy of the 1st and 2nd amendment of the usa.
the govt and news declared them to be "jewish nazies" and threw them in jail, and made them an illegal party, ineligible for being voted for.

Israel also had no real govt for almost a decade now as it is too splintered between the muslim party, the jewish god fearing party (haredi), the woke cultists, the green cultists, the communists, labor, and a few others who just cannot agree to come together on anything. Not to mention the oligarchs.
And they all insist that they simply cannot just vote on a case by case basis, they refuse, they must secure a coalition of parties that secures a seat majority or else they keep on throwing a tantrum.
The muslim party btw are a total 5th column.
 
mrttao said:
People have been warning about the need for self defense for decades.
The satanic pedophiles ruling class just does not care about the suffering of the commoners. Or how they are being terrorized by the arab mafia (they burn down businesses who won't pay protection. and the police refuse to go after them because they are based in "arab villages". police will arrest you for gun possession / militia if you try to fight back).

There was literally a party in israel that tried to advocate for giving israel a copy of the 1st and 2nd amendment of the usa.
the govt and news declared them to be "jewish nazies" and threw them in jail, and made them an illegal party, ineligible for being voted for.

Israel also had no real govt for almost a decade now as it is too splintered between the muslim party, the jewish god fearing party (haredi), the woke cultists, the green cultists, the communists, labor, and a few others who just cannot agree to come together on anything. Not to mention the oligarchs.
And they all insist that they simply cannot just vote on a case by case basis, they refuse, they must secure a coalition of parties that secures a seat majority or else they keep on throwing a tantrum.
The muslim party btw are a total 5th column.
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Geez.
I don't really focus on isreali politics
 
I wonder how battle hardened is the IDF going to be after this conflict ends. So far, they are kinda experienced, but when was the last time Israel had gotten involved in a MAJOR war?
 
mrttao said:
People have been warning about the need for self defense for decades.
The satanic pedophiles ruling class just does not care about the suffering of the commoners. Or how they are being terrorized by the arab mafia (they burn down businesses who won't pay protection. and the police refuse to go after them because they are based in "arab villages". police will arrest you for gun possession / militia if you try to fight back).

There was literally a party in israel that tried to advocate for giving israel a copy of the 1st and 2nd amendment of the usa.
the govt and news declared them to be "jewish nazies" and threw them in jail, and made them an illegal party, ineligible for being voted for.

Israel also had no real govt for almost a decade now as it is too splintered between the muslim party, the jewish god fearing party (haredi), the woke cultists, the green cultists, the communists, labor, and a few others who just cannot agree to come together on anything. Not to mention the oligarchs.
And they all insist that they simply cannot just vote on a case by case basis, they refuse, they must secure a coalition of parties that secures a seat majority or else they keep on throwing a tantrum.
The muslim party btw are a total 5th column.
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Yeah I think we have seen that kind of shit show play out in countries in the past.

Its not sustanable my money is were going to get an Israeli strong man in our life time and the gloves will actually come off, don't count on the press doing to much when it happens because the entire west will be dealing with its own shit.

The islamic world has a narrow window of time to win it all once it closes the current kind hearted west will be replaced with something much much meaner and angier.
 
I'm seeing news stories that the Pentagon gave 75 million to Palestinians like yesterday even though the money was scheduled to go elsewhere or something.

Any truth to that?

If so, that plus the 6 billion to Iran and all the weapons from Ukraine and Afghanistan...

It really looks like America might be funding and supplying this attack in roundabout and (hopefully) unintentional ways.
 
Bigking321 said:
I'm seeing news stories that the Pentagon gave 75 million to Palestinians like yesterday even though the money was scheduled to go elsewhere or something.

Any truth to that?

If so, that plus the 6 billion to Iran and all the weapons from Ukraine and Afghanistan...

It really looks like America might be funding and supplying this attack in roundabout and (hopefully) unintentional ways.
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Aid money for food and infrastructure developments. Hopefully the amount hasn't been transferred. You never make deals with zealots. They will bite the hand that feeds them. Iran has and remains the patron of Hamas. But now it turns out the Russians are supplying them too.
 
Bigking321 said:
I'm seeing news stories that the Pentagon gave 75 million to Palestinians like yesterday even though the money was scheduled to go elsewhere or something.

Any truth to that?

If so, that plus the 6 billion to Iran and all the weapons from Ukraine and Afghanistan...

It really looks like America might be funding and supplying this attack in roundabout and (hopefully) unintentional ways.
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In israel, a lot of commoners don't view USA an ally because

1. while USA gives tons of free money and military hardware to israel.
America seemingly "gives more" to the surrounding arab nations (especially when democrats are in power).
So its seen as playing both sides, as well as a net negative.

2. the money is not seen as a real gift because it is "common knowledge" that it is actually a scam where the money is lining the pockets of the USA oligarchs and Israel oligarchs who collude to rob the american tax payer.

3. USA always orders israel to stop fighting back once they start winning against the surrounding barbarians "you can't flatten egypts capital! that is inhumane!". etc.

The oligarchs on TV keep on talking about the "tight alliance" but that is seen as them just securing the next paycheck.
 
Bacle said:
The leader of Hamas was in Russia not to long ago, while Israel is sending medical gear to Ukraine, and Biden did just give Iran 6 billion dollars.

So you might want to ask Tehran and Moscow how much help they've given Hamas to make this happen.

Might ask the CCP too, as the paragliders used look suspiciously like the same type the CCP have talked about using.
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Because they are. They are being used for combat testing. They want to see if they are effective on the Iron Dome. Because Taiwan signed an R&D partnership with Israel to develop their own Iron Dome
 
AmosTrask said:
Aid money for food and infrastructure developments.
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they never use it for that ever. they spend it in china and russia buying weapons. always. as well as hiding it in tax shelters like switzerland for the hamas oligarchs.
Yassir arafat for example stole so so so much money that went towards "food aid" for the palastinians.

Also I wouldn't be so sure about no weapons thing. Obama used to give lots of military hardware to middle eastern arab nations. I have no idea of biden followed suit or not.
 
mrttao said:
they never use it for that ever. they spend it in china and russia buying weapons. always. as well as hiding it in tax shelters like switzerland for the hamas oligarchs.
Yassir arafat for example stole so so so much money that went towards "food aid" for the palastinians.

Also I wouldn't be so sure about no weapons thing. Obama used to give lots of military hardware to middle eastern arab nations. I have no idea of biden followed suit or not.
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To US allies and Clients. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Pakistan. Not to enemies. Those weapons were bought openly from the US, UK, France and Italy. Unfortunately MBS is firmly on the Chinese side. That bastard doesn't want to ever allow democracy in any form. It would rob him of his power.
 
DarthOne said:
I am shock! Shocked I tell you!

Except not.
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Yeah, US gear from A-stan ending up spreading around the ME is not surprising, unfortunately.
DarthOne said:
Well that’s convenient for Israel, isn’t it?
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No, it's convenient for Iran, Russia, and the CCP, for different reasons.

Iran is just the usual Jew/Israel hate, Russia doesn't like Israel sending med gear to Ukraine, and the CCP want to see how Iron Dome preforms because Taiwan signed a deal for them.

Credit to @AmosTrask for pointing that out.
 
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