LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Just for fun, I'm going to pick this apart piece by piece.
You're actually helping your cultural enemy here, by tying yourself to your military enemy.
The existence of this war at all is a defeat for them. It shows that no, we have not reached 'The End of History,' that you still need to use force to stop evil men, and that pretending they'll stop if you just be nice and appease them is a fantasy.
The political left needs to be defeated culturally and philosophically. Ukraine getting crushed and raped by Russia would help this... how exactly?
Are you deliberately lying, or are you actually so far into double-think you didn't even realize it?
And the Ukrainians need to play a media strategy to some degree. The constant influx of war material from the West is an absolutely critical part of their war effort.
After the enemy's air defenses were completely surpresed, and without western-provided Stinger missiles to make light infantry capable of attacking Close Air Support, the ability to immediately target and pulverize any hardened enemy lodgement would be fully utilize.
Additionally, since the US's armored and mechanized infantry forces are actually bloody well competent, and aren't corrupt to the level of selling half the fuel for the offensive, Kyiv actually would have fallen in the first few days.
On top of that, since the USA doesn't have a history of trying to genocide the Ukrainian people, and has a well-known public track record of spending obscene quantities of money to rebuild nations it 'liberates,' the Ukrainians would have an attitude of 'die on our feet fighting them, or starve to death slowly after they conquer us,' so resistance would be nowhere near as ferocious, and they'd have a lot more motivation to surrender.
And here you show your ignorance of what Desert Storm was like.
The Iraqi miltiary in 1991 was enormous, and equipped with reasonably-solid Cold War military technology. Not much of the latest Cold-War era hardware, but given that the USSR hadn't actually even dissolved yet, even 70's gear was a lot more recent than you might think.
In six weeks, the coalition forces destroyed over 3300 Iraqi tanks, over 2100 APCs, 2200 artillery pieces, and 110 combat aircraft.
To be clear, in six weeks more military hardware was destroyed than Russia or Ukraine has lost in sixteen months of conflict.
Second, 80%+ of this war is not 'war has changed,' it is instead 'nations too poor to fight like modern militaries instead fight like cold war militaries.' Drone utilization is the only major change, pretty much everything else has been a rolling series of laughs at how badly Russia has failed at acting like a competent, modern military.
For those of us who actually make a serious study of war, there was a lot of hope that the conflict in Ukraine would give us some idea how modern military conflict could be expected to play out. Unfortunately, it was very quickly proven that this was not going to be the case, and the reason it wasn't going to happen, was because of the utter mind-boggling incompetence of the Russian Armed Forces.
Airpower has been at the forefront of every military conflict NATO powers have been primary movers in, from Korea onward. Mobility, response times, raw firepower, the sheer utility of air-power is enormous, and it has been critical everywhere from Vietnam to the Falklands to the Middle East.
Russia failed to take advantage of that.
Failed miserably.
Bloody hundred-dollar civilian-grade drones have been a more significant contributor to the war than Russia's billion-dollar air force. They failed to wipe out the Ukrainian air force, they've failed to fully suppress Ukraine's air defenses, and they have next to no ability to give Close Air Support. They've been having their helicopters stay at stand-off distances, and 'lob' unguided weapons at targets, which is even less accurate than conventional tube artillery.
The Russian military is a laughingstock among people who used to consider them a credible counter-balance to NATO.
They managed to go from 'getting their asses kicked' to 'fighting a stalemate with marginal progress in one city' by resorting to World War I attrition and artillery saturation attacks. Now to be fair, they're decent at artillery saturation, but the reason for that is because it has one of the lowest competence thresholds to accomplish its basic objective. It's also not actually very effective if the enemy is willing to bunker down in their trenches and fox holes
The only reason Russia hasn't been completely kicked out of Ukraine, is because for everything else, they are 3-4 times the size, and they do have massive stockpiles of war material left over from the Cold War.
But they've been steadily burning through those stockpiles; intel is patchy on how much longer they'll last, but they aren't going to last forever.
Now, all of this said, I know you aren't going to listen to me. I know you're going to just stay in the world of your own fantasy, where Bakhmut wasn't a horrible catastrophe and waste of time for Russia, where Ukraine has been attrited to bits and isn't in the process of winding up a big offensive operation, but like I said, this is mostly just for my own amusement.
Also, so that you can't claim nobody tried to tell you, tried to reach you in spite of you being so clearly out of touch with reality.
Supporting Russia is not an effective way of doing this. Making common cause with a clearly monstrous regime does little except make the people you're allying against seem more reasonable. Much like how the communists in the USSR seemed reasonable to the West during WWII, in spite of being terrible monsters themselves.They were doing the exact same thing they did in grozny and in syria. A slow, steady grind of artillery, followed up by infantry assaults to clear the rubble. Its the exact technique.
As for what i am doing? I am opposing the very Empire that wants to throw people in prison for saying that men cant get pregnant.
You're actually helping your cultural enemy here, by tying yourself to your military enemy.
You show your lack of understanding of the modern political left, much less how to defeat it.I dont care much about Putin or the Russia and have little interest in Russian culture. As an anglo-canadian i actually sympathise with the desire of the Ukrainians to forge an identity apart from Russia. Believe me, i understand what its like to be right next to a goliath with whom you share intimate political, cultural and linguistic ties that considers you to be its backyard.
What i want to see is the defeat of the Rainbow Empire, because its defeat is a precondition of my liberation and your liberation as well. The Rainbow Empire wants to turn the entire planet into one big gay disco of rootless consumerbots dominated by an omnipresent crowd sourced panopticon and throw everyone who dissents into a prison.
If the Empire wins this war, its power grows and things get far worse for us. If it loses, it grows weaker and more discredited. So i stand with Russia.
The existence of this war at all is a defeat for them. It shows that no, we have not reached 'The End of History,' that you still need to use force to stop evil men, and that pretending they'll stop if you just be nice and appease them is a fantasy.
The political left needs to be defeated culturally and philosophically. Ukraine getting crushed and raped by Russia would help this... how exactly?
Yes, they did go in unprepared.As for Russia?
They went into this completely unprepared. They did not prepare for a large long campaign, instead they gambled on a quick blitz and lost.
As Zachowon already pointed out, yes the Russians have been in frequent warfare since WW2. In fact, you cite one of their recent conflicts earlier in this post.Unlike the USA, Russia didnt spend most of the years since ww2 in constant warfare. They were inexperienced and it showed. Then they spent 6 months trying to figure out what to do, and in september finally decided to go for the gusto and began to properly mobilise. All the time since then has been Russia pressing the reset button, mobilising and applying its lessons learned.
Are you deliberately lying, or are you actually so far into double-think you didn't even realize it?
Russia is absolutely losing. They have made no substantial territorial gains since the first few months of the war, and by the accounts of Russians, they've been running low on material, they're forced to dig deeper and deeper into stocks of ever-more-obsolete hardware, and they're getting their mobiks slaughtered in job lots rather than training them to useful levels and deploying them judiciously.Russia was never 'losing'. What you saw as Ukrainian victory was just the up and down on a graph. But the trend line bends towards russian victory. Russia is pursuing a military and economic strategy. Ukraine is pursuing a media strategy in the hopes of foreign intervention or some miracle.
And the Ukrainians need to play a media strategy to some degree. The constant influx of war material from the West is an absolutely critical part of their war effort.
America would have completely wiped out the enemy's air force in the first few hours, and the entirety of their air defense network in the first few days. The USA does not keep as large a reserve of artillery, because that's not part of its doctrine. Aerospace supremacy, then the use of air support is.How would america have fared in this? It depends on them neutralising Ukraines air defenses. w/o its unlimited air power it would struggle too. The USA does not have the artillery power that Russia has. They would be much better on the tactical level, the legacy of the GWOT, but on the operational level? I think they would have struggled a great deal if the Ukrainians were being backed to same level by an outside power.
After the enemy's air defenses were completely surpresed, and without western-provided Stinger missiles to make light infantry capable of attacking Close Air Support, the ability to immediately target and pulverize any hardened enemy lodgement would be fully utilize.
Additionally, since the US's armored and mechanized infantry forces are actually bloody well competent, and aren't corrupt to the level of selling half the fuel for the offensive, Kyiv actually would have fallen in the first few days.
On top of that, since the USA doesn't have a history of trying to genocide the Ukrainian people, and has a well-known public track record of spending obscene quantities of money to rebuild nations it 'liberates,' the Ukrainians would have an attitude of 'die on our feet fighting them, or starve to death slowly after they conquer us,' so resistance would be nowhere near as ferocious, and they'd have a lot more motivation to surrender.
Far too many Americans suffer from desertstormitis. The American victories over Iraq were just the modern version of Victorian era Redcoats with gatling guns mowing down native tribesmen. Nothing more.
And just FYI, I am no edgy teen. My roots in this place go back to the era when spacebattles was still about fan movies of spacebattles.
And here you show your ignorance of what Desert Storm was like.
The Iraqi miltiary in 1991 was enormous, and equipped with reasonably-solid Cold War military technology. Not much of the latest Cold-War era hardware, but given that the USSR hadn't actually even dissolved yet, even 70's gear was a lot more recent than you might think.
In six weeks, the coalition forces destroyed over 3300 Iraqi tanks, over 2100 APCs, 2200 artillery pieces, and 110 combat aircraft.
To be clear, in six weeks more military hardware was destroyed than Russia or Ukraine has lost in sixteen months of conflict.
I'm not really sure what is going on with your mind here. First off, Israel got more or less what it wanted out of that conflict, even though it ended after barely a month.Everyone forgets that in 2006 Israel fought, and could not decisively defeat a much weaker opponent that was heavily dug in and made liberal use of anti-tank rockets. War has changed. And we are seeing now how war has changed.
Second, 80%+ of this war is not 'war has changed,' it is instead 'nations too poor to fight like modern militaries instead fight like cold war militaries.' Drone utilization is the only major change, pretty much everything else has been a rolling series of laughs at how badly Russia has failed at acting like a competent, modern military.
For those of us who actually make a serious study of war, there was a lot of hope that the conflict in Ukraine would give us some idea how modern military conflict could be expected to play out. Unfortunately, it was very quickly proven that this was not going to be the case, and the reason it wasn't going to happen, was because of the utter mind-boggling incompetence of the Russian Armed Forces.
Airpower has been at the forefront of every military conflict NATO powers have been primary movers in, from Korea onward. Mobility, response times, raw firepower, the sheer utility of air-power is enormous, and it has been critical everywhere from Vietnam to the Falklands to the Middle East.
Russia failed to take advantage of that.
Failed miserably.
Bloody hundred-dollar civilian-grade drones have been a more significant contributor to the war than Russia's billion-dollar air force. They failed to wipe out the Ukrainian air force, they've failed to fully suppress Ukraine's air defenses, and they have next to no ability to give Close Air Support. They've been having their helicopters stay at stand-off distances, and 'lob' unguided weapons at targets, which is even less accurate than conventional tube artillery.
The Russian military is a laughingstock among people who used to consider them a credible counter-balance to NATO.
They managed to go from 'getting their asses kicked' to 'fighting a stalemate with marginal progress in one city' by resorting to World War I attrition and artillery saturation attacks. Now to be fair, they're decent at artillery saturation, but the reason for that is because it has one of the lowest competence thresholds to accomplish its basic objective. It's also not actually very effective if the enemy is willing to bunker down in their trenches and fox holes
The only reason Russia hasn't been completely kicked out of Ukraine, is because for everything else, they are 3-4 times the size, and they do have massive stockpiles of war material left over from the Cold War.
But they've been steadily burning through those stockpiles; intel is patchy on how much longer they'll last, but they aren't going to last forever.
Now, all of this said, I know you aren't going to listen to me. I know you're going to just stay in the world of your own fantasy, where Bakhmut wasn't a horrible catastrophe and waste of time for Russia, where Ukraine has been attrited to bits and isn't in the process of winding up a big offensive operation, but like I said, this is mostly just for my own amusement.
Also, so that you can't claim nobody tried to tell you, tried to reach you in spite of you being so clearly out of touch with reality.
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