Russia is a giant country that has Short Man Complex. Russia just can't seem to get right in the head no matter how hard they try.Anatoly Karlin (@powerfultakes)
Continental union comparable to India in total VC funding presumes to offer its unsolicited regulatory services.One thing that makes me happy is that regardless of final outcomes in Ukraine, Europe will remain a loser continent.nitter.1d4.us
TBH, I'm not really sure that it's appropriate for a Russian to be calling Europe a loser continent since his own country is a loser country in comparison to Europe, which at least still produces much more elite science than Russia does.
You do know that the hypersonic missles of our adversaries are woefully underdeveloped and have not shown any combat capabilities....
And as for MRLS..
You do know the M270 is better then the Tornado that is replacing the Smerch.
And the Tornado still isn't anywhere as good accuracy wise.
US favors accuracy over amount. As shown with HIMARS kicking all of the Russian versions butts.button.
Also, where are the super advanced systems that Russia has.
Where are the T-14s, the BMP-Ts, the SU-57s, 5he T-15s?
The systems you keep mentioning are so low in production they arnt going to be used except as propoganda.
Also, the US has better guided munitions then thay of the Russians. Hell, ALL of NATO has better guided munitions then that of the Russians.
You have Excalibur rounds, which are old as hell for the US. You have GLMRS, which again, are old as hell. ATACMS. Again, old as hell and still more accurate then the newest guided munitions Russia has.
Worth remembering why we can ignore History Learner. "Kyiv is about to fall, and the Russians will encircle all Ukrainian forces in the east." becomes "Kyiv was a feint, and the forces in the east are nearly surrounded!" Pretty sure in a later post I CBF to find he went the same "Russia didn't want to encircle them, they're making it into a grinding match to kill as many Ukrainians as they can!" we heard from other idiots. Mixed with all the other cope. Russia are fighting with one hand behind their back to test themselves, and trying to limit civilian casualties? How well does that hold up 8 months and countless murdered children and mass graves later?
No it doesn't?
Lol, cope harder, the only thing you have demolished is your credibility in any military matters.
Stay dumb, History Learner, you will always be the dumbest in the thread.
Aaaaand what kinds of guided missiles does it fire? What CEP do they have?
So like Armata and Su-57, napkinwaffe.
Meanwhile Excalibur is in service and active use since over a decade, used in several wars, sold to several countries.
So in conclusion, who is behind?
All of the currently in-service ones, there aren't many, you lazy evasive ass.
You have to remember that the Russians were so helpless against our attack subs that they pulled their boomers back to near-shore "bastions"
We shouldn't have been able to penetrate them ever, at all. Do you have any idea how hard it is to sneak a submarine through air, surface and sub-surface patrols, right in the enemy's backyard? Lol. Lmao.
Computer, zoom and enhance!
So America's ability to project so much power that they can establish a home-guard tier defense halfway across the globe means they're... lackluster? Do you have velcro on your fucking shoes?
they pulled their boomers back to near-shore "bastions" where they could protect them with airpower and surface ships, and despite all those very, very competent ASW assets guarding them we still were routinely infiltrating said bastions with our own SSN's to trail their boomer subs.
For a submarine, surfacing is tantamount to surrendering, as it leaves it essentially helpless. Surfacing is what they do when they have a 688 class pinging them on active hard while surface ships circle them - the message being "you are about to be fucking shot." What no navy would ever do is successfully infiltrate an enemy Carrier Battle Group and then willfully give away the fact that they can do it, which would just cue their enemy in that they need to do exercises with NATO allies and their high-quality AIP-equipped diesel boats and/or develop new sensors/countermeasures. You're swallowing horseshit propaganda painted over a gross embarassment and doing it without blinking, because you're a dipshit who doesn't understand the first thing about literally anything you sperg about.
LOCAL ADMIRAL GOES ON TV AND SAYS CONGRESS SHOULD GIVE THE NAVY MORE MONEY BECAUSE OOOH SCARY RUSSIANS. Wow, no shit? Stunning. Absolutely floored, here.
That was sarcasm, by the way. I feel I should specify, with you.
Guess you missed the Navy testing a boost-glide hypersonic vehicle back in November 2017.
Sod off with your silly games again. I don't know where did you delusionally read that point, but if you can't even repeat it, guess it's not there.So I guess we can add inability to read to your lackings?
Yes, i do copy childish snaps from a master, i have better things to do than create originals.Thank you for proving my point with your inability to do anything but parrot what I said.
If only the random articles you have linked had actual CEP dataRead all about it here, CEP is comparable to HIMARs. For someone who claims I'm the stupidest in the thread, it's amazing how much I'm having to hold your hand, isn't?
Yes, that was the easier one to find. Russian one, probably not something to brag about, so it's not so easy.The rocket, known as the M30 GMLRS, has increased range (to 42 miles/ 70 km), accuracy (to 5m CEP) and lethality (unitary 196 lb. warhead option).
Fuck off with the Krasnopol. An article you have yourself linked earlier has stated that it's similar same first generation guided munition to the Copperhead from the 80's, also reminding you of its existence, and difference between laser and GPS guidance.Meanwhile Excalibur was brought into service because the Russians had Krasnopol before it, and is and was used by multiple nations. Given the Russians are already on their second generation, would you like to try again?
Super hi tech Russian weaponry that USA is totally lagging behind, refused by India, replaced by US technologyPerformance problems in India
In December 2006, The Indian Express [16] reported that India’s Russian Krasnopol 155mm laser-guided shells have displayed defective performance during Army test-firing in the Mahajan ranges in Rajasthan in 2004 and 2005. In March 2007, Defence Minister Shri AK Antony confirmed the extent of the problem.[17]
In a June 2009 report the Comptroller and Auditor General of India said, "Krasnopol proved to be a complete dud during testing at high altitudes, as it was woefully short on both range and accuracy. 'Such procurement of defective quality ammunition adversely impact the Army's operational preparedness,' " [18]
Since 2019 India uses the M982 Excalibur 155 mm extended range guided artillery shell developed by the US Army, in addition to the Krasnopol.[19] A 2018 competitive assessment by the Indian Army of various available 155mm precision-guided rounds selected the M982 Excalibur for purchase. It did not include Krasnopol in the comparison. It's believed that the more
WTF? I've asked about SLBM tubes... Since when do SSNs have SLBM tubes? That's something only SSBNs have by definition. Randomly linking articles you don't understand doesn't help your case, yet you can't do something as simple as check what how many launch tubes do all 3 Russian SSBN classes in active service have, and compare them to the Ohio class.So, again, which do you refer? I get the tough guy act is coming from a place of lacking, but I've already pointed out the Borlei Class in terms of SSBMs. SSNs? I posted the article for that already too.
What's funny is I grabbed literally your two first posts in the thread making any kinda claim/prediction and they were so wrong I didn't need to dig further to demonstrate that you're just full of shit. If you can find me saying Kherson was going to fall in April (Or any time.) feel free to quote it. We could make a game of it where we look back with some perspective and see who was more accurate with hindsight. I'm going to say so far the score is 2-0.What's deeply funny about this is that I got all but the Kharkov and Kiev stuff right, and the reason you can find that latter post is because it doesn't exist. You can't actually argue with anything I say, so you're forced to focus on the two things I said I got wrong. Meanwhile you and your ilk were predicting Kherson would fall in April and the Russians wouldn't clear Lughansk.
WTF is the point posting a graph of mainly ballistic missile ranges in response to an argument about the quality of guided munitions?
I think you're stupid sometimes. Asking where they are isn't saying they don't exist at all. It's highlighting that they might as well not. Whether it's because they don't exist in sufficient numbers, the technology isn't actually mature, or some other reason... They are not on the battlefield. A weapon system that you "Like, totally have guys!" but can't field in a fight is a weapon system you might as well not have. Tanks that were obsolete before half the forum user's here were born are more meaningful to Russian strategy and defence, because they can at least sort of field those.There's something deeply funny about you asking where their systems are and then admitting they exist, as it just continues to show how right I am on this.
Man you don't understand how the US MIC works do ya?Except for the multiple combat uses in Ukraine the Pentagon itself confirmed and the Pentagon itself conceding the Russians and Chinese are both far ahead in this category.
Well I can't know that which you are literally making up, given the Tornado has better range and matches us in accuracy. Seems to be a reoccurring theme of you lying here, which is telling.
There's something deeply funny about you asking where their systems are and then admitting they exist, as it just continues to show how right I am on this.
What an odd thing to say, because it is a lie:
This is the same intelligence that was deeply penetrated by the Soviet before WWII?Britain used to have a reputation for excellent intelligence services and special naval forces but now they can't even keep a secret from Russian intelligence.
Well all the talk about Russian and Chinese Hypersonic missiles have caused the US Armed Forces to invent.........This seems like an appropriate time to drop this in here:
This is the same intelligence that was deeply penetrated by the Soviet before WWII?
Well I can't know that which you are literally making up, given the Tornado has better range and matches us in accuracy.
That's a fascinating goalpost shift, pretty explicitly done done to hide the fact you got called out for lying in your original post:
So if they were still stationing first generation Boomers off the coast of America, pretty clear indication they weren't that helpless and had to pull them back to Bastions, no?
During the Cold War, the Soviet Union, warned by the Walker spy ring — active from 1967 to 1985 — about the vulnerability of its nuclear submarines, concentrated them in the Barents Sea close to the Russian mainland. Later, Moscow did the same on the Pacific coast in the Sea of Okhotsk. With their most precious assets huddled in isolated waters, the Soviets then implemented what became known as the “bastion concept” to protect them. As the nuclear submarines maneuvered within a defined space, they were protected by approximately 75 percent of the Soviet navy’s attack submarines, every surface vessel in its northern and Pacific fleets, and hundreds of aircraft. It was a truly formidable defense, one that NATO spent considerable energy and resources finding counters to.
Given the USSR stopped existing and funding got slashed by 60%, yeah, it makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that NATO doesn't have that excuse to explain away how the Russians keep doing it to do them with their new submarines.
Truly fascinating how you avoid the cognitive dissonance of saying the Soviets doing exactly this is a weakness but somehow the U.S. doing it magically makes it into a strength in your mind.
That's all interesting cope, truly, and the the first sentence is immediately invalidated by the fact China and the U.S. weren't at war at the time on its own,
but we can also defer to the Pentagon on this for the second confirmed time it happened:
It's okay, I've learned to speak very slowly with you too, best evidenced by your complete failure at reading comprehension here:
"One person said government scientists were struggling to understand the capability, which the U.S. does not currently possess, adding that China's achievement appeared 'to defy the laws of physics,'" he added.