The Abortion Thread (Political)

Bear Ribs said:
So, after being forbidden communion by Archbishop Cordileoni for her abortion stance, Nancy Pelosi went to a church in DC and got it anyway.

www.christianpost.com

Nancy Pelosi receives communion, speaks out against archbishop who banned her from eucharist

U S House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif , reportedly took communion at a Catholic church in Washington, D C , Sunday and spoke out Tuesday after Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco ...
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However apparently that was the right thing to do, as she's now traveled to the Vatican where she was seated in the VIP section and given communion in a Papal Mass under Pope Francis.

www.politico.com

Pelosi receives Communion in Vatican despite abortion stance

Pelosi’s home archbishop has said he will no longer allow her to receive the sacrament in his archdiocese because of her support for abortion rights.
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Based on messages and threads I'm seeing this is generating a fair chunk of controversy in the Catholic Church.
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true Catholics gotta rise up and brand the Vatican and their child molestering friends as a bunch of heretics.

HERESY MUST BE PURGED!
 
imagine if they did abortion this way . . .

AngkorWatAbortionAD1150.JPG


Wikipedia caption said that this is a "Bas-relief at Angkor Wat, Cambodia, c. 1150, depicting a demon inducing an abortion by pounding the abdomen of a pregnant woman with a pestle.[84][172]"

Abortion - Wikipedia
 
The Whispering Monk said:
I disagree. It's very possible. You just have to start at the bottom. It's a change that won't happen top-down. Extremely difficult and long term, but also extremely worthwhile.
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Not extremely difficult, it is an impossibility, unless you have a way to grow people's brains bigger.
There is a reason why this sort of problem is highly concentrated in major metropolitan areas, rarely seen in towns, and nearly unheard of in villages.
 
Marduk said:
Not extremely difficult, it is an impossibility, unless you have a way to grow people's brains bigger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number
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I hate this fallacy for one simple reason. It pretends that those connection are isolated from other people's connections. They aren't. I've got 35 close connections...even if only 5 of those connections are with people from different areas of life, that spreads your connections through a HUGE web of influence.

My point is that we need to teach the city folk that they don't need the govt to take care of them if they just make sure to open their eyes to what's happening with their neighbors, coworkers and family. Too often city living teaches people NOT TO NOTICE. Fix that, and you change a LOT.
 
The Whispering Monk said:
I hate this fallacy for one simple reason. It pretends that those connection are isolated from other people's connections. They aren't. I've got 35 close connections...even if only 5 of those connections are with people from different areas of life, that spreads your connections through a HUGE web of influence.
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Yes, and that math perfectly explains how the problems get gradually worse with bigger settlements, rather than get the worst case scenario merely after few thousands.
Over around 22k it becomes a fact that it's impossible for everyone to have connections with everyone even by 1 proxy. That's basically the large town threshold.
Around 3 million that becomes true even for 2 levels of proxy, and statistically even that is very unlikely. Somewhere between towns and that are ordinary cities, and beyond 3 million is the territory of megacities (similarity to Megacity One not accidental).
The Whispering Monk said:
My point is that we need to teach the city folk that they don't need the govt to take care of them if they just make sure to open their eyes to what's happening with their neighbors, coworkers and family. Too often city living teaches people NOT TO NOTICE. Fix that, and you change a LOT.
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But what is the risk vs reward calculation for noticing? No wonder they don't notice. Some talk of a war on noticing for a reason.
 
Typhonis said:
The thing of it is... until recently large cities were places people went to die. The people in large cities died in droves with new arrivals keeping the numbers up. It wasn't until sanitation and medical practice started helping with disease that more people could live in a city.
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There was always much more money avalable, that's why they went, even with the shorter life.
 
Largo said:
So, there has been talk of bills banning people from going out of state to get abortions in states which allow abortions. And I would argue that goes way too far. The Commerce Clause, as abused as it may have been by the Feds, exists to shut down this sort of thing.
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It is going too far; the states do not have the power to restrict movement across their borders within the union. The only feasible exception being essentially abducting a minor, IE moving a minor across state borders without the consent of their parent/guardian.
 
Bacle said:
'Abstinence-only sex ed' is largely a myth and joke outside a few parts of the very-far right, as most reasonable people on the Right will just promote making sure you use condoms and don't get into hook-up culture.
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Or get sterilized. You can even become a parent later on with the help of artificial insemination and/or IVF even if you're sterilized. Even a bilateral epididymectomy can be followed by an ICSI procedure if one subsequently wants a child.
 
Husky_Khan said:
Apparently some Urologists in New York City are reporting a 500% increase in young men seeking vasectomies.

nypost.com

Making the cut: Younger men seek vasectomies in the wake of Roe v. Wade ruling

Younger men in the Big Apple —- and across the country — are scrambling to book appointments to get vasectomies, urologists and prospective patients told The Post.
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I'll just post this here:

www.change.org

Sign the Petition

Force health insurance companies to cover bilateral epididymectomy for sterilization
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A bilateral epididymectomy should be more effective than a vasectomy in preventing an unplanned pregnancy, especially when it is also combined with a vasectomy. I don't know by just how much it is more effective, though.
 
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