The Abortion Thread (Political)

[WolfBear]

Yes.

Government run healthcare has been a curse on the general health and well being of our population as well as the professionalism and care of our doctors.

What would you offer as an alternative to it? No public option, right? So, what we had before 2010?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Not on topic, and I'm pretty sure we have that thread already. happy to have that conversation elsewhere.

 

[WolfBear]

Not on topic, and I'm pretty sure we have that thread already. happy to have that conversation elsewhere.

Redirect me to the relevant thread then, please.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Apparently some Urologists in New York City are reporting a 500% increase in young men seeking vasectomies.

Making the cut: Younger men seek vasectomies in the wake of Roe v. Wade ruling

Younger men in the Big Apple —- and across the country — are scrambling to book appointments to get vasectomies, urologists and prospective patients told The Post.

nypost.com

Hey, leftoids voluntary castrating themselves is a welcome thing to me.

 

[Cherico]

Hey, leftoids voluntary castrating themselves is a welcome thing to me.

IT will take 20 years for this to show up in the data but this will help in the long run.

 

[Ixian]

Saving this here because I'm tired of leftist trying to claim the US has a crazy high infant mortality rate, or that even if true it somehow justifies abortion.

No, America Doesn't Have The Highest Maternal Mortality Rate In The Developed World

The U.S. medical community defines maternal mortality differently than the WHO, and keeps better records for the women in its care than other countries do.

thefederalist.com

 

[bintananth]

Saving this here because I'm tired of leftist trying to claim the US has a crazy high infant mortality rate, or that even if true it somehow justifies abortion.

No, America Doesn't Have The Highest Maternal Mortality Rate In The Developed World

The U.S. medical community defines maternal mortality differently than the WHO, and keeps better records for the women in its care than other countries do.

thefederalist.com

There are lies, there are damn lies, and then there are statistics.

When there are more variables than equations you can twist the math in any way that you desire so that you get the number you want.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Senator Elizabeth Warren: A Deep and Serious Analysis of Her Attacks on Pregnancy Resource Centers.





Damn it, I'm not sure which of these videos is the parody.

 

[DarthOne]

Meet the Pro-Abortion Terrorist Group

 

[Husky_Khan]

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito gave a speech criticizing his true Royal Princely Monarch Prince Harry for criticizing America.

Alito, 72, drew laughter with his scathing speech at a conference on religious liberty in Italy, his first public remarks since the landmark 1973 abortion rights decision was overturned.

“What really wounded me — what really wounded me — was when the Duke of Sussex addressed the United Nations and seemed to compare the decision whose name may not be spoken with the Russian attack on Ukraine,” Alito said in a sarcastic tone of Harry.

The exiled UK royal’s speech — which cited “the rolling back of constitutional rights” in the US as proof of “a painful year” — was far from the only non-American whose criticism Alito dismissed.

“I had the honor this term of writing I think the only Supreme Court decision in the history of that institution that has been lambasted by a whole string of foreign leaders who felt perfectly fine commenting on American law,” Alito said.

“One of these was former Prime Minister Boris Johnson — but he paid the price,” Alito joked of the UK leader who has been forced to step down after an overwhelming show of no confidence in him.

I can't believe a Supreme Court Justice finds any of this funny.

Justice Alito mocks Prince Harry for Roe v. Wade criticism

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito has mocked Prince Harry and the “string of foreign leaders” who attacked the US for scrapping Roe v. Wade.

nypost.com

Justice Alito mocks foreign critics of abortion reversal - Breitbart

Justice Samuel Alito mocked foreign leaders’ criticism of the Supreme Court decision he authored overturning a constitutional right to abortion, in

www.breitbart.com

 

[bintananth]

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito gave a speech criticizing his true Royal Princely Monarch Prince Harry for criticizing America.



I can't believe a Supreme Court Justice finds any of this funny.

Justice Alito mocks Prince Harry for Roe v. Wade criticism

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito has mocked Prince Harry and the “string of foreign leaders” who attacked the US for scrapping Roe v. Wade.

nypost.com

Justice Alito mocks foreign critics of abortion reversal - Breitbart

Justice Samuel Alito mocked foreign leaders’ criticism of the Supreme Court decision he authored overturning a constitutional right to abortion, in

www.breitbart.com

The US Supreme Court is sorta like God: It works in mysterious ways.

I can recall an instance from years ago when they said "yup, we'll consider this" to a hand written appeal from a guy trying to save his home.

"Certiorari denied" (i.e.: this is bullshit) is what you usually get when you make an appeal to the US Supreme Court.

 

[Cherico]

I really don't trust Harry's judgement after he married that woman.

 

[Captain X]

Where in the Constitution is this supposed right to abortion?

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Galaxy brain

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Republicans Begin Adjusting to a Fierce Abortion Backlash

1st half
Republican candidates, facing a stark reality check from Kansas voters, are softening their once-uncompromising stands against abortion as they move toward the general election, recognizing that strict bans are unpopular and that the issue may be a major driver in the fall campaigns.

In swing states and even conservative corners of the country, several Republicans have shifted their talk on abortion bans, newly emphasizing support for exceptions. Some have noticeably stopped discussing details at all. Pitched battles in Republican-dominated state legislatures have broken out now that the Supreme Court has made what has long been a theoretical argument a reality.

In Pennsylvania, Doug Mastriano, the Republicans’ ardently anti-abortion candidate for governor, has lately taken to saying “the people of Pennsylvania” will “decide what abortion looks like” in the state, not the governor. In Minnesota, Scott Jensen, a family physician who said in March that he would “try to ban abortion” as governor, said in a video released before the Kansas vote that he does support some exceptions: “If I’ve been unclear previously, I want to be clear now.”

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Republican consultants for Senate and House campaigns said Thursday that while they still believe inflation and the economy will drive voters to the GOP, candidates are going to have to talk about abortion to blunt Democratic attacks that the party’s position is extreme. They have started advising Republicans to endorse bans that allow exceptions for pregnancies from rape or incest or those that threaten the life of the mother. They have told candidates to emphasize care for women during and after their pregnancies.

“If we are going to ban abortion, there are things we’ve got to do to make sure the need for abortion is reduced, and that women are not endangered,” said Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., who won an exemption for rape and incest in her state’s abortion law as a state representative. Now, she says Republicans need to press to expand access to gynecological and obstetrics care, contraception, including emergency contraception, and even protect the right of women to leave their states to get an abortion without fear of prosecution.

Messaging alone cannot free the GOP from the drumbeat of news after the Supreme Court’s decision, including the story of a 10-year-old rape victim who crossed state lines to receive an abortion, and headlines about women who confronted serious health problems under new, far-reaching restrictions or bans.

On Thursday, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, who has recently avoided talking about abortion, suspended a state attorney from Hillsborough County who refused to prosecute people who try to provide abortions prohibited by the state’s new 15-week ban, prompting angry recriminations from Democrats.

The recalibration for some began before voters of deeply Republican Kansas voted overwhelming Tuesday against removing abortion rights from the state’s constitution. Since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, retracting the constitutional right to the procedure, many Republicans were slow to detail what would come next. As they rush to enact long-promised laws, Republican-led legislatures have learned how difficult banning abortion can be.

“Not just the pro-choice movement but the pro-life movement was caught by surprise” by the Supreme Court, said Brandon Steele, a West Virginia delegate who pressed for an abortion ban without exceptions in a special session of the Legislature that ended this week with the Republican supermajority stymied. “Without having the talking points, without being told what to do, legislators had to start saying what they were actually going to do. You could see the confusion in the room.”

thoughts?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I'm sure there's some work and outright angst at the state level, I'm also sure that Yahoo is going to try and stir the pot as much as possible against any Republican election efforts to try and show them as week or anti-woman or whatever.

 

[bintananth]

thoughts?

There's a middle ground between "no abortions, ever" and "abortions are available free of charge to any gal who wants one".

Republicans are currently trying to find that middle ground. Roe v. Wade also tried to find that middle ground.

Very few people are going to be happy with the middle ground, but that's compromise for you: everyone gets something they wanted ... and walks away unhappy and disgruntled.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I'm sure there's some work and outright angst at the state level, I'm also sure that Yahoo is going to try and stir the pot as much as possible against any Republican election efforts to try and show them as week or anti-woman or whatever.

I feel like with the economy the way it is which is something you just can't really forget about or ignore that they are gonna have a hard time making anyone care enough to get riled up over that.

 

[LordsFire]

Roe v. Wade also tried to find that middle ground.

This is nonsense. Roe V Wade & Casey established 'Abortions whenever for any reason.' It was incredibly extreme.


Also, the article just looks like more leftist cope about no longer having their way 100% on abortion.

 

[bintananth]

This is nonsense. Roe V Wade & Casey established 'Abortions whenever for any reason.' It was incredibly extreme.

Also, the article just looks like more leftist cope about no longer having their way 100% on abortion.

Roe v. Wade didn't say "abortions are ok for any reason". It said "abortions are ok before the fetus can survive outside the womb".

I'm not familiar with Casey, so I won't comment on what that had to say about abortion.

Anyways, it's all now moot and the issue has been kicked back to the States and Congress.