China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

[Hlaalu Agent]

History being changed and retconned right before our eyes, with the leftards not even giving a shit about what they are doing.

The flu never was from Spain, the only reason why it was associated with Spain was that the Spanish were honest in reporting it. So I support renaming it to be "1918 Chinese Flu" given it probably came from there.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

The flu never was from Spain, the only reason why it was associated with Spain was that the Spanish were honest in reporting it. So I support renaming it to be "1918 Chinese Flu" given it probably came from there.

Oh please, it's because Trump used Spanish Flu as an example.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Full spectrum of acceptable names for the latest blessing of Papa Nurgle

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Oh please, it's because Trump used Spanish Flu as an example.

That is hilarious. Maybe Trump can trick them into renaming more things to an accurate name. He has the power, since he does live rent-free in their minds... Hmmm I wonder if he can start selling Condos there?

 

[Airedale260]

Mexico is going to make bank in the next 30 years.

Their labor is already cheaper and more skilled then Chinese labor and shipping costs are lower.

Labor probably isn't cheaper (though I've not looked into it and could well be wrong)--China has a big comparative advantage there just because of the massive labor market and the state's whole-hearted and excited willingness to hold the hands of its companies and supply them with loans, infrastructure, and peons to man their work-camps--and giggle at the idea of 'worker unions' or labor protections (except suicide netting--that's a worthwhile investment in keeping the peons producing Iphones!).

Agree in principle, though. There's a lot of production that could/should be done in other countries, perhaps especially South America, that only isn't because of the massive boom of China brought on the backs of its economic liberalization, the capital its allowed them to flex, and their domestic market. Mexico and South America would make a better source for things, investment included...Provided there can ever be any kind of political stability to things in the area (one instance the PRC has been very efficient at maintaining, to give the devil his due).

Mexico would be preferable -even with the cartels and the migrant crisis, I’d still much prefer them since they at least *try* to behave as a functioning democracy (or did before AMLO but that’s another topic).

Mexico isn’t likely to cause anywhere near the trouble China has though -first, because most of the powers that be are more interested in making money from their northern neighbor and they have a pretty good deal already, and second because, if they tried the level of shit China has, especially now, III Corps and I MEF would be rolling across the border, with II MEF probably re-enacting the Battle of Veracruz.

 

[Arch Dornan]

It's happening.

 

[Bacle]

It's happening.

Fuck, I knew it was only a matter of time.

I wonder if we will have to have Congress convene via teleconference in order to stay in session during this?

 

[Duke Nukem]

Covid-19 may be declining in China(I extremely doubt that), But party is just getting started everywhere else.

 

[Bacle]

So some good news, based on the current press conference.

Chloroquine, a well known anti-malaria drug, seems to have a positive effect on corona virus patients. This could vastly simplify treating the virus, because stockpiles are already available.

Edit: Holy crap, Trump has asked cruise lines to allow their ships to be converted to hospital ships because of how many rooms and facilities they have. That is a brilliant move.

Edit 2: Man, Trump ripped the media a new one in this conference.

 

[Spartan303]

So some good news, based on the current press conference.

Chloroquine, a well known anti-malaria drug, seems to have a positive effect on corona virus patients. This could vastly simplify treating the virus, because stockpiles are already available.

Edit: Holy crap, Trump has asked cruise lines to allow their ships to be converted to hospital ships because of how many rooms and facilities they have. That is a brilliant move.

Edit 2: Man, Trump ripped the media a new one in this conference.

Here is an article on it.

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[Cherico]

Its looks like Immigration is shut down in the US and the Europeans are regaining their balls.

The reindustrialization of America is also accelerating.

 

[Spktr Alpha]

Its looks like Immigration is shut down in the US and the Europeans are regaining their balls.

The reindustrialization of America is also accelerating.

Green Energy is eventually growing into it's own, Robots are doing more and more of the heavylifting, and most Americans aren't willing to to do the shit jobs that immigrants come here to do.

Eventually the Coronavirus will go away this year or the next, but things are already changing.

 

[Floridaman]

Green Energy is eventually growing into it's own, Robots are doing more and more of the heavylifting, and most Americans aren't willing to to do the shit jobs that immigrants come here to do.

Eventually the Coronavirus will go away this year or the next, but things are already changing.

The problem is green energy only works in a small portion of the planet, most of which is not where the cities are, so short of some miracle way of transferring energy, green energy becoming the main source of energy is unlikely, unless by green you are including nuclear energy.

 

[Terthna]

The problem is green energy only works in a small portion of the planet, most of which is not where the cities are, so short of some miracle way of transferring energy, green energy becoming the main source of energy is unlikely, unless by green you are including nuclear energy.

What's stopping people from building new cities near where green energy is most abundant?

 

[Floridaman]

What's stopping people from building new cities near where green energy is most abundant?

Cities occur where they are able to be supported, building where green energy is available puts you far away from navigable waterways for most of the world, meaning you would have to spend large amounts of resources including energy moving the needed goods to support the city.

 

[Bacle]

Green Energy is eventually growing into it's own, Robots are doing more and more of the heavylifting, and most Americans aren't willing to to do the shit jobs that immigrants come here to do.

Eventually the Coronavirus will go away this year or the next, but things are already changing.

The idea of 'Green Energy' is a misnomer in itself.

Solar: Needs shittons of rare earths that are expensive, toxic to produce, and is of variable use in most places.
Wind: Not all that useful on the large scale, doesn't generate that much energy compared to how much is needed to transmit that energy significant distances, and kills lots of birds and bats.
Hydro: Lake siltation issues, interrupting fish migration routes, and is a maintenance is a bitch even if not needed that often.
Tidal: Issues with sea-life accumulating on grates, less useful in places with light tides, and can leak lubricant into the surrounding water.

Really the only true 'Green energy' is geothermal, which isn't that useful in most places.

Corona is going to change the way the world operate, probably for good, but 'green energy' isn't going to do much at all to help.

 

[Spktr Alpha]

The problem is green energy only works in a small portion of the planet, most of which is not where the cities are, so short of some miracle way of transferring energy, green energy becoming the main source of energy is unlikely, unless by green you are including nuclear energy.

The idea of 'Green Energy' is a misnomer in itself.

Solar: Needs shittons of rare earths that are expensive, toxic to produce, and is of variable use in most places.
Wind: Not all that useful on the large scale, doesn't generate that much energy compared to how much is needed to transmit that energy significant distances, and kills lots of birds and bats.
Hydro: Lake siltation issues, interrupting fish migration routes, and is a maintenance is a bitch even if not needed that often.
Tidal: Issues with sea-life accumulating on grates, less useful in places with light tides, and can leak lubricant into the surrounding water.

Really the only true 'Green energy' is geothermal, which isn't that useful in most places.

Corona is going to change the way the world operate, probably for good, but 'green energy' isn't going to do much at all to help.

Fair. Thoughts on Automation and Labor?

 

[Duke Nukem]

The idea of 'Green Energy' is a misnomer in itself.

Solar: Needs shittons of rare earths that are expensive, toxic to produce, and is of variable use in most places.
Wind: Not all that useful on the large scale, doesn't generate that much energy compared to how much is needed to transmit that energy significant distances, and kills lots of birds and bats.
Hydro: Lake siltation issues, interrupting fish migration routes, and is a maintenance is a bitch even if not needed that often.
Tidal: Issues with sea-life accumulating on grates, less useful in places with light tides, and can leak lubricant into the surrounding water.

Really the only true 'Green energy' is geothermal, which isn't that useful in most places.

Corona is going to change the way the world operate, probably for good, but 'green energy' isn't going to do much at all to help.

It's ironic that The coronavirus is doing more for the enviroment in 2 months , than the environmental activists have done in
years.

Also Nuclear power is the only viable replacement for fossil fuels in the future .

 

[Guardian Box]

Wind: Not all that useful on the large scale, doesn't generate that much energy compared to how much is needed to transmit that energy significant distances, and kills lots of birds and bats.

The amount of birds killed by those isn't actually that big. The problem is it's an unreliable source of energy, so you need a traditional power plant around anyways to pick up the slack. The materials the windmills are made out of are also non-recyclable, so after several years they either get buried in massive landfills or burned up, releasing massive amounts of toxic shit into the atmosphere.

 

[Duke Nukem]

The idea of 'Green Energy' is a misnomer in itself.

Solar: Needs shittons of rare earths that are expensive, toxic to produce, and is of variable use in most places.
Wind: Not all that useful on the large scale, doesn't generate that much energy compared to how much is needed to transmit that energy significant distances, and kills lots of birds and bats.
Hydro: Lake siltation issues, interrupting fish migration routes, and is a maintenance is a bitch even if not needed that often.
Tidal: Issues with sea-life accumulating on grates, less useful in places with light tides, and can leak lubricant into the surrounding water.

Really the only true 'Green energy' is geothermal, which isn't that useful in most places.

Corona is going to change the way the world operate, probably for good, but 'green energy' isn't going to do much at all to help.

I actually heard that Solar farms in the Mojave desert can fry birds if they fly to close .