China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

LordsFire

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And if you look at the great atrocities outside that target period, they all come back to the shared matter of enforcing a narrow set of ideals or laws across a large region, like the problem is giant centralized power structures as a whole. Which puts Christianity pretty far up the shitlist for begging for some of the most extreme hierarchies, beat out pretty much only by openly theocratic Islamists for corruption bait.
Corruption and abuse of authority is endemic to the human condition.

Christianity is not 'far up the shitlist,' though the Catholic Church and its many heresies is, as well as some heretical Protestants like John Calvin.

The distinction is that these people can be called heretics, because their abuses of authority violate the teachings of Christ, whereas this is not true of Islam, Hinduism, etc. Buddhists get at least partial credit, because they do teach that humility and self-denial are virtues.

The very concept of servant leadership, that the point of having power was to serve the people, rather than have the people serve you, was popularized through what became western culture by Christianity. It wasn't unique to it, there were some non-Christian leaders who displayed this value, but it was not an accepted cultural doctrine in the various preceding pagan religions.

Atheism, Communism, modern neo-marxist and other identity-politics types, none of these ideologies teach universal moral franchise, or universal human rights. Atheism has no intrinsic moral system at all, and the others explicitly teach dehumanizing 'us vs them' morality, wherein any action against the out-group is justified.

From when the Roman empire was christianized to when atheism began overtaking the culture around the turn of the 19th to the 20th century, yes, tens and hundreds of thousands of people died in wars, some of them driven as much by power struggles within religious hierarchy as between the nobility. This was in violation of Christ's teaching.

In the 20th century, atheists, especially socialist atheists, killed tens of millions. And it isn't just because it was 'easier with modern technology' or 'because the populations were larger.' No, they managed to starve millions of people to death, and this was not in contravention to the doctrines of communism or atheism, it was directly fulfilling them.

Meanwhile, what did Christian nations do in the same time? Either became the most prosperous and advanced nations in the world (USA, much of the anglosphere) or stagnated (much of the spanish and Portueguese-speaking world), and notably the more stagnant places were usually having a lot of their problems come from struggles with communists, who were usually atheists.

If we compare death tolls, atheists have butchered far more in a much shorter period of time.

If you insist on only comparing to the 20th century, you still have the atheists butchering tens of millions, while the christians built prosperous nations, and started sending aid to other nations. (Communist) atheist nations exported communist revolutions that resulted in tyranny, slaughter, and economic failure (Zimbabwe being a particularly notable case of induced famine), while the worst that christian nations did was bring about stagnation.

On every comparison, on every level, the fruit of cultures and nations that go full atheist is massively worse than even 'christians' who are outrageous heretics doing terrible things that violate Christ's teachings. When you have nations that make at least some reasonable effort to follow said teachings, you get the most prosperous and stable nations in the world.
 

ATP

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Except that paradisiacal thinking as an assumption of basic moral behavior is overwhelmingly a Christian idea to begin with. The Jews were shamelessly legalistic and the sundry polytheists proclaimed paradise for the exceptionally virtuous or accomplished, it's only the Christians who gave easy steps almost everyone could meet for their promised perfect afterlife. And that assumption that moral behavior begets the ideal is where Utopianism comes from.


And if you look at the great atrocities outside that target period, they all come back to the shared matter of enforcing a narrow set of ideals or laws across a large region, like the problem is giant centralized power structures as a whole. Which puts Christianity pretty far up the shitlist for begging for some of the most extreme hierarchies, beat out pretty much only by openly theocratic Islamists for corruption bait.
1.Jews do not promised Paradise for just,but obeing law.Polytheists afterlife was sad thing,at least in Rome/Greece.
And yes,ONLY WE CHRISTIANS PROMISE SALVATION FOR EVERYBODY WILLING - IN AFTERLIFE.
That is why we never tried it on Earth,like atheist did.

2.Society mean Hiearchy,except Aborigens or bushmen.And our Hiearchy is simpest among others.
P.S @LordsFire ,there was no other important Church then Catholic till 1054.According to your logic,all Saints till then were heretics.
 

Scottty

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I've often seen non-Christians complaining about Christianity for this or that reason - or for completely the opposite reasons!

Ancient pagans complained that the Christian ethnic of love for all was too pacifist, that it would leave a nation vulnerable to defeat and conquest. Modern seculars complain about the fact that Christian kingdoms were not pacifist and willing to be conquered!

People on the Left wanted to de-Christianize society because they considered Christian values to be incompatible with their own hyper-egalitarianism.

But I've never before seen an Atheist complaining that Christian doctrine makes it too easy for people to go to Heaven! That's a first...
 

Bacle

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So now some want to claim that the unvaxxed are getting diabetes more than the vaxxed, and that unvaxxed Wu Flu infections raise the risk of diabetes by a significant percent.

This seems like a new angle to try to coerce people into getting the Wu Flu vax and more fearmongering about the virus.
 

Bacle

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New memos unmask secret deal between US, Britain to hide COVID vaccine adverse events


"Why are we engaged in a secret deal to keep secret information about adverse events related to the vaccines?" Fitton asked.

President of Judicial Watch Tom Fitton said that recent documents obtained by the watchdog group reveal that the United States was involved in a secret deal with the United Kingdom to keep information about adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine hidden from the public.

"They were talking about anaphylaxis responses and adverse events related to the vaccine," Fitton said on the Wednesday edition of the "Just the News, No Noise" TV show. "They were sharing information with their UK counterparts."

Judicial Watch put out a press release last week, linking to the 57 pages of redacted documents.

"Judicial Watch announced today it received 57 pages of heavily redacted records from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) that show, just two days prior to FDA approval of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, a discussion between U.S. and UK health regulators regarding the COVID shot and 'anaphylaxis,' with the regulators emphasizing their 'mutual confidentiality agreement,'" the press release reads.

Fitton said that the information revealed is troubling to say the least.

"Why are we engaged in a secret deal to keep secret information about adverse events related to the vaccines?" he asked. "I just think it's troubling. The documents speak for themselves."

Fitton added that this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

"It's not the first time we've seen this," he said. "Back when COVID first emerged, we uncovered documents showing there was an agreement with the Chinese where they dictated terms of secrecy and an agreement in exchange for our ability to go over there. And it looks like in order to look at what information they had on the virus at the time. Obviously, they weren't terribly forthcoming."



To quote something said else where
Nothing is going to happen to these criminals because there are too many to put on trial so they will not try anyone. They will go with "mass formation psychosis" and they will say if Big Pharma is destroyed so will the 401Ks of the little guys go down the drain and it will become a "What's Good for Wall Street is Good for Main Street" narrative just like the housing crash recession of 2008.

Fauci and Big Pharma executives will be rewarded instead of punished and if hundreds of thousands die because of the Plannedemic and the clot shot so be it. The UniParty and the elite don't give a shit about the middle class, they want us sick, in jail, or dead.
 

Scottty

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Meanwhile... Canada going full Orwell.

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I have a coworker who got the cupcake because of pressure at work and I think he was drinking the coolaid. A while after having the cupcake, his wife found him on the kitchen floor. He was rushed to the hospital where he spent 2 days in emerg and 1 day in the cardiac ward due to a “cardiac event”. He has been diagnosed with myocarditis. When he asked his cardiologist if he should get the second cupcake the Dr.’s response was “you may as well, the damage has already been done.” He got it and was bed ridden for quite some time before finally returning to work under “modified duty”.
Today my coworker dropped a bombshell. On the 1 year anniversary of his “cardiac event” he had a follow up appointment with the same cardiologist. After reviewing the test results, the Dr. asked a strange question. He asked, “what are you doing here?” My coworker was surprised and answered “I’m here for my 1 year follow up.” The Dr then told my coworker that he wanted to show him something. He turned the screen he was looking at towards my coworker and asked, “1 year follow up to what?” There was nothing on the file about my coworker being admitted to the hospital after the cupcake. “Do you have any paperwork?” the Dr. asked. “Yes,” my coworker responded, “I have my discharge papers.” “Keep them.” The Dr. advised. “You are the 5th patient of mine whose admission records have been removed.” The Dr. complained to Alberta Health Services and is now receiving disciplinary action. Alberta Heath Services is deleting records of adverse reactions to the cupcakes.
 

Scottty

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From those sort of stories, the actual doctors can see what is happening, and are not all "in" on the scam. It's the administrative later who are behind this.
 

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