China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

[Bigking321]

basically the vax is a complete waste of time and money then....

No, no.

It let's them segregate the population into those that will follow orders and those that resist and let's them use extraordinarily illegal power seizures using the pandemic as a excuse.

I'm sure they would say money well spent. Especially with the election they stole being added to the mix.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Not to mention just how passive aggressive is the communication of authorities towards their subjects.

 

[strunkenwhite]

Now lets say he clears the hurdles here and does the test and it comes back positive. He publishes the findings. Now the MSM smears him as a crackpot

You said we've repeatedly gotten past this step, but have we?

 

[Bacle]

Trump just cannot let his ego and pride take a backseat even for a minute.

"We got the vax's in 9 months, don't let them take that away from us. When you doubt the vaccines you are playing into their hands."-Trump

Yeah, vax's usually take a long time because they need multi year studies to be cleared with pregnant women and others, to make sure we know what all a vax does for side-effects.

This is why I do not want Trump running again, he cannot put his own ego and pride in the backseat, even on petty shit or things he really shouldn't brag about. I'd grudgingly vote for him if he was on the ticket, but only because whoever the Dems put up would be worse.

 

[Zachowon]

I mean, he isn't wrong though.
They can find the divide for those that are vocal about the doubt.
They can use that to separate us.

 

[Bacle]

I mean, he isn't wrong though.
They can find the divide for those that are vocal about the doubt.
They can use that to separate us.

Trump rushed the vax's to boost poll numbers, long before studies could reasonably be done on pregnant women and thier babies, or it's affects on fertility.

After everything we've learned about the vax's, the fact Trump is still trying to push them as an 'achievement' of his tells me he isn't paying attention to the reports of adverse effects, or does not care, or just cares more about his own ego and pride than about the people he has now put in harm's way by going along with all the Wu Flu bullshit Pence pushed.

There is a reason I compare Trump to Valorum now: pretty much all the good he did has been erased by how his term ended, what he allowed to happen under his watch in the White House with regards to the Wu Flu, and what his actions have allowed his successor to do.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Trump rushed the vax's to boost poll numbers,

I don't agree with you here. From what I have seen, I really think he was pushing the Vax out quick to make sure we had a way to resist a potentially deadly virus. (Turned out it wasn't that bad.)

I will agree with you that I think his resistance here is largely ego based. Trump doesn't say he was wrong.

pretty much all the good he did has been erased by how his term ended, what he allowed to happen under his watch in the White House with regards to the Wu Flu, and what his actions have allowed his successor to do.

Don't agree that all the good he did was erased either. Judge appointments are a huge thing. Showing us how good it can be when you choke off a lot of federal regulation is still a good thing. Forcing the Left to unmask has been a huge benefit.

Yes, Trump should have canned Fauci and the rest of the 'pushers' early on.

I don't think Trumps actions 'allowed his successor to do anything.' No matter who was in office, the Left would have used any opposition to their goals this way.

 

[Bacle]

I don't agree with you here. From what I have seen, I really think he was pushing the Vax out quick to make sure we had a way to resist a potentially deadly virus. (Turned out it wasn't that bad.)

I will agree with you that I think his resistance here is largely ego based. Trump doesn't say he was wrong.



Don't agree that all the good he did was erased either. Judge appointments are a huge thing. Showing us how good it can be when you choke off a lot of federal regulation is still a good thing. Forcing the Left to unmask has been a huge benefit.

Yes, Trump should have canned Fauci and the rest of the 'pushers' early on.

I don't think Trumps actions 'allowed his successor to do anything.' No matter who was in office, the Left would have used any opposition to their goals this way.

Those judge appointments might be the only lasting good Trump did, if they actually do stop the Biden regimes Wu Flu insanity.

I am not too optimistic that they will, given the way the NY vax mandate went when it hit SCOTUS.

At this point I'm pretty close to openly replying to the texts and emails I get from Trump's campaign with a 'When Trump addresses adverse reactions from his vax's, the harm they are causing, and owns his part in it, maybe I'll consider donating and voting for him again.'

But I'm also not naive enough to believe that would do a damn thing.

My politics now can be summed up as 'A pox on both your houses', and Trump continuing to push the vax's is a large part of why.

 

[Sobek]

Those judges are useless. Weak as shit. Kavanaugh apparently is a complete pushover who does whatever Roberts wants.

 

[Bacle]

Trump owns the vax's, is falling in line with the Left pushing them, does not address adverse reactions, and cannot fucking get over his own ego.

 

[Bacle]

This is good news; the Daily Wire's case is probably the best shot at undoing the vax bullshit, and it's coming from a source that knows how to do the legal dance better than most.



Exonerating the CCP from unleashing the virus in the first place. Though with what we know about the NIH/Fauci connection to the Wuhan labs gain-of-function research, I expect it's more about trying to keep blame off the CCPs American partners/patsies.

 

[Zachowon]

He did create the vax.
He isn't buying thier narrative, HE CREATED THE NARRATIVE before the left bought it.
He wasn't going to mandate it but would probably say if you want it get it or if you are the at risk age get ot.

He can still be proud he got them made. Don't blame him for doing something good, blame the left for rubbing his legacy in the mud

 

[Bacle]

He did create the vax.
He isn't buying thier narrative, HE CREATED THE NARRATIVE before the left bought it.
He wasn't going to mandate it but would probably say if you want it get it or if you are the at risk age get ot.

He can still be proud he got them made. Don't blame him for doing something good, blame the left for rubbing his legacy in the mud

Fine, then Trump gets to own ALL OF IT.

All the adverse reactions from the rushed vaxs, all the mandates and requirements that ignore science in the name of grabbing power, all the harm from ignoring natural immunity, all the social damage that may take generations to unfuck (if ever), Trump gets to own it all if he won't admit he was wrong and the vax's are causing more harm than good.

 

[LordsFire]

Fine, then Trump gets to own ALL OF IT.

All the adverse reactions from the rushed vaxs, all the mandates and requirements that ignore science in the name of grabbing power, all the harm from ignoring natural immunity, all the social damage that may take generations to unfuck (if ever), Trump gets to own it all if he won't admit he was wrong and the vax's are causing more harm than good.

There is one essential difference:

Trump pushed for the Vaccines to be available. He never pushed for a mandate.

That is the crux.

 

[Bacle]

There is one essential difference:

Trump pushed for the Vaccines to be available. He never pushed for a mandate.

That is the crux.

That matters very little, really.

He rushed the vax's to boost his electoral chances, he allowed the vax's to skip the normal testing phases that check for adverse reactions over more than just the short term (studies on the vax's effects on pregnant women/thier babies won't be done till 2023/2025) when therapeutics were widely available (he did try to push those, but did not back that you when the Left started up on HCQ and Ivermectin), and he does not seem to even acknowledge adverse reactions are a thing that is happening a lot with these jabs.

This is about Trump trying to protect his pride and ego over how fast they vax's came out, with no regard for effectiveness or side-effects/adverse reactions.

 

[LordsFire]

That matters very little, really.

He rushed the vax's to boost his electoral chances, he allowed the vax's to skip the normal testing phases that check for adverse reactions over more than just the short term (studies on the vax's effects on pregnant women/thier babies won't be done till 2023/2025) when therapeutics were widely available (he did try to push those, but did not back that you when the Left started up on HCQ and Ivermectin), and he does not seem to even acknowledge adverse reactions are a thing that is happening a lot with these jabs.

This is about Trump trying to protect his pride and ego over how fast they vax's came out, with no regard for effectiveness or side-effects/adverse reactions.

It matters a great deal. It's the difference between a proud man, and a tyrant.

 

[Bacle]

It matters a great deal. It's the difference between a proud man, and a tyrant.

His pride is about the dodgy, at best, vax's that he got rushed into production for political purposes, and his actions have allowed said tyrant to push and try to mandate.

So no, Trump should not take pride in the vax's, unless he also wants to own the adverse reactions and iffy effectiveness.

 

[LordsFire]

His pride is about the dodgy, at best, vax's that he got rushed into production for political purposes, and his actions have allowed said tyrant to push and try to mandate.

So no, Trump should not take pride in the vax's, unless he also wants to own the adverse reactions and iffy effectiveness.

I didn't say that he should take pride. I said he's a proud man.

But he's not a tyrant.

That's an important distinction.

 

[Bacle]

I didn't say that he should take pride. I said he's a proud man.

But he's not a tyrant.

That's an important distinction.

Neither was Valorum, yet he still unwittingly paved the way for Palpatine's rise.

The Wu Flu was Trump's Naboo blockade, and he's too proud to admit he screwed up by trying to rush the vax's out when therapeutics were available.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Mom vaxxed.

Got COVID from vaxxed whore child-like friend.

MY OWN SISTER HIS TREATING HER LIKE A GODDAMN LEPER.

FUCK!

WORST was her response ! "YOU GOT NOTHING TO LOSE BROTHER BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN OTHERS DON'T! I BOOKED MY VACATIONS!"

MY MOTHER EVEN COOKED FOR HER! AND SHE HAD THE GUT TO ASK HER IF SHE USED GLOVES AND MASK INSIDE OUR HOUSE!

FUCK THE GOVERNMENT WHO TURNED MY OWN SISTER IN THEIR PERSONAL FUCKING FLESH AND BLOOD BOT!