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I will again remind you that reports to VAERS can by entered by anyone and are not verified making them completely worthless as any sort of actual measuring stick.

This statement might mean something if it was not already abundantly clear that to you, any evidence not supporting your position on vaccines is worthless as any sort of actual measuring stick.

Also, you're assuming bad faith on the part of the people submitting the reports.
 
This statement might mean something if it was not already abundantly clear that to you, any evidence not supporting your position on vaccines is worthless as any sort of actual measuring stick.

Also, you're assuming bad faith on the part of the people submitting the reports.
No, I'm assuming stupidity.

Because it's very clear from you and a few others here that there's a significant amount people who are incapable of separating the idea of correlation from causation.

Or to put things simpley, just because a thing happens after you got the vaccine doesn't mean it was caused by the vaccine.



And I will remind you pre-covid that VAERS was considered reliable and multiple vaccines were pulled off the market due to its use.
This is a paper written in 2015 explaining it isn't reliable for what idiots are trying to use it for.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26209838/
 
No, I'm assuming stupidity.

Because it's very clear from you and a few others here that there's a significant amount people who are incapable of separating the idea of correlation from causation.

Or to put things simpley, just because a thing happens after you got the vaccine doesn't mean it was caused by the vaccine.




This is a paper written in 2015 explaining it isn't reliable for what idiots are trying to use it for.

Safety monitoring in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) - PubMed

Once or twice can be coincidence, but when there is a strongly held correlation after multiple events in proximity, you can definitely show causation.

VAERS is primarily a safety signal detection and hypothesis generating system.

From your own link.

37 deaths was enough to get the first swine flu vaccine pulled, and rotavirus vaccine was pulled after a few hundred adverse events and 89 deaths over a period of a few years.

We are well pass the safety signal trip lines in VAERS where the vaccines should have been pulled. And VAERS is widely underused with a URF of 41 because it is so backlogged and hard to use. Also more cases and deaths have been reported to VAERS in 2021 than in 23 years combined by a substantial amount. WHO has also recorded double the adverse events from the vaccines than all its other list of essential medicines have had for the past 33 years.

If VAERS as you say is not a safety signaling tool, then we have no pharmacovigilance in the world and no vaccines should be out on the market.

But that is not the case, so your argument is thus rejected in its entirety. The mRNA vaccines are not safe, don't even work at stopping COVID's spread or hospitalizations and have way too many adverse events to justify their use in a virus that is 99.999% survivable with aggressive early treatment with repurposed drugs or simply just losing weight and getting regular supplements of Vit D and C plus Zinc.

Its a damning indictment of "Western Nations," that the 3rd World has crushed the virus with early treatment and have had vastly lower infection and death rates.
 
Once or twice can be coincidence, but when there is a strongly held correlation after multiple events in proximity, you can definitely show causation.

From your own link.

37 deaths was enough to get the first swine flu vaccine pulled, and rotavirus vaccine was pulled after a few hundred adverse events and 89 deaths over a period of a few years.

We are well pass the safety signal trip lines in VAERS where the vaccines should have been pulled. And VAERS is widely underused with a URF of 41 because it is so backlogged and hard to use. Also more cases and deaths have been reported to VAERS in 2021 than in 23 years combined by a substantial amount. WHO has also recorded double the adverse events from the vaccines than all its other list of essential medicines have had for the past 33 years.

If VAERS as you say is not a safety signaling tool, then we have no pharmacovigilance in the world and no vaccines should be out on the market.

But that is not the case, so your argument is thus rejected in its entirety. The mRNA vaccines are not safe, don't even work at stopping COVID's spread or hospitalizations and have way too many adverse events to justify their use in a virus that is 99.999% survivable with aggressive early treatment with repurposed drugs or simply just losing weight and getting regular supplements of Vit D and C plus Zinc.

Its a damning indictment of "Western Nations," that the 3rd World has crushed the virus with early treatment and have had vastly lower infection and death rates.
You might want to actually research your points yourself in the future instead of pulling talking points from blogs.

The Swine Flu vaccine you cited predates VAERS existence by 15 years, which means the deaths that caused it to be pulled were actually proven to have causation. And the Rotavirus vaccine was temporarily pulled because that specific one was contaminated by PCV-1.
 
Um, no it's not. Misreporting on VAERS is a felony with heavy fines and up to five years prison time under 18 U.S. Code § 1001.
You might want to actually read 18 U.S. Code § 1001...

Because there's a massive difference between Misreporting and Willfully Lying...


Right off their website.

VAERS is also overwhelmingly reported to BY MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS.

Who's paying you to shill for the vaccines?
No, but this actually is right off their website.


A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.
 
You might want to actually research your points yourself in the future instead of pulling talking points from blogs.

The Swine Flu vaccine you cited predates VAERS existence by 15 years, which means the deaths that caused it to be pulled were actually proven to have causation. And the Rotavirus vaccine was temporarily pulled because that specific one was contaminated by PCV-1.

Missing the point here. We had a working Pharmacovigilance System that followed up on vaccine batches and pulled them after a few dozen adverse reactions. We are way past that with mRNA vaccines.

This isn't a handful of deaths and a few thousand reactions. This is 20,000+ reported deaths and 1 million adverse reactions the bulk within 48 hours of vaccination and exploding rates of myocarditis and strokes in children and young adults.

Factor in the URF and we are looking at 41 times more events than gets reported to VAERS simply due to how hard it is to report on it and its time consuming nature.

So your rebuttal fails. Causation is certainly established and these vaccines must be pulled and the mandates ended.
 

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