China Wuhan Virus Pandemic
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Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Get a t-shirt that says I got the jab for free too.
Largo
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The damn US of mother fucking A still sees huge amounts of people die from the ordinary flu every year. And I'm using India as an example of how COVID is clearly not just a normal flu, no matter how much you pretend otherwise. It's fairly logical then that if COVID is worse than the flu, and the flu does have a bad impact, that COVID is going to have a far worse impact. Which more or less fits with what we've seen.
Never mind that sanitation doesn't have actually much to do with how this virus spreads to begin with. It doesn't matter how clean you are if a COVID-positive person is breathing in your face.
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You do know that in the US they didn't stop the count when COVID was at a very low amount over summer. And what equals one COVID season would be two flu seasons?
COVID has a .03 percent chance of killing last I checked kf a normal healthy adult..
The thing js. How healthy is India? Have you looked into the numbers of the COVID deaths in the US?
Have you not noticed there were false reports of it?
Wierd right?
Almost like when people would of had the flu this year they just claim COVID instead.
Wierd how Flu numbers are almost none existent this year
ReggieLedoux
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This is actually not that weird. Given that people have been very particular about protecting old people, self-isolating, safe distancing and wearing masks, we absolutely should see a drop in Flu cases compared to other years. The fact that more people are dying this last year of disease than other years despite that proves Covid's efficacy at killing.
Uh....
When they never test for the flu and consider any covid like symptoms to be COVJD during the early days.
And that there are deaths that are Not covid bring considered COVID....
Covid is not efficient at killing.
There have been over 33m covid cases in the US alone, and only 587k deaths.
Take into the fact that that is a VERY small portion of people. And include the KMOWN misconduct of calling something a COVID death.
ReggieLedoux
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A disease that kills everyone it infects is generally speaking, at least in the modern world, not a very good disease at actually spreading. 587k deaths is a lot, especially for just one country, when the disease has lead to full quarantines and a serious change in day to day life that has tried to minimise spread as much as people are willing to put up with. I'd call it pretty efficient. Compare and contrast Ebola from a few years ago. Horrible symptoms, kills a significant percentage of those it infects.
In the first world killed less than 50 people.
Plus, like, a few deaths attributed to COVID when they weren't (lets ignore the argument about COVID being a secondary cause of death, that's a complicated rabbit hole to go down) does not mean it doesn't kill and isn't dangerous. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Let's be very, very cynical and say that COVID killed only 50% of those claimed to have died from the disease. This is unlikely, but let's claim that.
Now, that leaves us with 293,500 deaths in the last year. The average number of people in the US killed by seasonal flu viruses is between 3000-49000. We'll go with that highest number of 49000.
Despite lockdowns, masks, self-isolation, general paranoia and everything people have done to try and reduce the spread of the virus, COVID has still, in our 50% wrong deaths accounting, killed six times as many people as the maximum average amount that Flu does in years when people just don't give a shit about spreading flu and do shit like use public transport or whatever.
IDK, that makes COVID pretty lethal.
Do you know who is generally the ones dying from COVID?
The same ones who generally die from the flu with some worse ones here and there.
Guess what.
A flu is seasonal. And even outside of season people still get it and die from it. Yet woth COVID it has been all ONE SEASON. When normally would be two flu seasons.
Also, a lot of deaths could have been avoided in states like MI and NY because of putting people in Nursing homes with COVID no matter age. Making the most vulnerable in society more likely tk get it.
Well the source I was gonna link git removed from YouTube and I can't find the video anywhere else so yeah. There goes that method
ReggieLedoux
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Ah, but we did actually see that COVID deaths also had peak and valleys not entirely related to when lockdowns lifted (tho that certainly affected things). And I quoted the yearly numbers, not the per season flu-death numbers. And I'm not denying that more should've been done concerning old people's homes, I'd rather kill myself than end up in one, but that's the same with Flu. And yet, more people died. And we saw far more young people deaths too, which are usually rare for non-immunocompromised young people.
Obviously there's going to be more deaths in big cities and states with larger populations. We will likely see a shittone of COVID deaths in Florida thanks to its large OAP population and the frankly shocking lack of procedure. But then again, it's Florida, so eh, I'd probably prefer death to living there.
You mean How Florida and Texas are both having massively lower numbers and have stayed consistent without lockdowns over states like New York, California and the like?
Huh I thought locjdowns worked.
OH WAIT! guess what also happend in summer of last year that correlated with a rise in cases.
The BLM/ANTIFA Riots.
Almost like if they didn't happen there would jit have been a massive increase in cases
ReggieLedoux
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New York and LA are two of the most populated cities on the planet. Miami and Austin don't really compare. Tho yes, people protesting whatever should be keeping masks on and practising safe distancing while burning cars or shops or whatever, not going to disagree on that. I'm glad we're in agreement on the necessity of isolating people and not having large public gatherings.
Oh, it is more that buisness as usual should never have changed woth the exception that those at a higher risk then the .03 that is for everyday healthy people should have been the ones locked down.
Because funneling people into big brand stores is worse then having many stores.
But yes the riots definitely did not help.
Besides the damage they did and ruining people livelihoods also causing the spread of COVID after the fact.
My point being with major cities is this.
Look at the states, blue ones to be exact, and look at the numbers of covid and death. Now look at similar populated red ones that did things differently.
Like GA or FL.
There is a HUGE diffrence in numbers of deaths and cases.
Almost like it isn't that deadly
ReggieLedoux
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I mean, not really? There aren't big major cities that voted Republican, other than maybe Miami (genuinely not sure, wouldn't be surprised, even by dem standards the florida dems are fucking retarded). Austin is fully dem. The smaller cities might lean red, but again, can't really compare 300,000 people to 11 million.
I'm talking about states.
Nit cities.
So you don't count Houston or Dallas or Tampa or Orlando or El Paso or Jacksonville as 'major cities'?
Yeah, pull the other one in your defense of the lockdowns, that turned out to actually have done little to slow the virus, and destruction of our civil rights and liberties.
ReggieLedoux
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Jacksonville: 99525 infected, 1469 deaths. 2019 population: 911,507 Population density: 1,178/sq mi Death rate per infected: 1.48%
Tampa: 140,504 infected, 1770 deaths. 2019 population: 399,770 Population density: 3,326/sq mi Death rate per infected: 1.25%
Orlando: 140,872 infected, 1283 deaths. 2019 population: 287,442. Population density: 2,635/sq mi Death rate per infected: 0.91%
Dallas: 301,918 infected, 4041 deaths. 2019 population: 1,343,573 Population density: 3,866/sq mi Death rate per infected:1.33%
El Paso: 135,570 infected, 2687 deaths. 2019 population: 681,728 Population density: 2,660/sq mi Death rate per infected: 1.98%
Houston: 397,046 infected, 6356 deaths. 2019 population: 2,320,268 Population density: 3,613/sq mi Death rate per infected: 1.60%
(Sources: List of United States cities by population - Wikipedia and https://www.bing.com/covid/local/unitedstates?form=C19ANS)
Only two of these cities are more than a million people, three have more than 3000 people per square mile. No, I would not count them as major cities. Jacksonville has a shocking death rate considering its population density, holy shit. The other two Florida cities have nearly half their population coming down with Covid at some point, so they really aren't doing well.
ReggieLedoux
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That can be covered by "number of hospitals in the area", "ability to afford decent healthcare" and other various variables like age which, frankly, given nobody else is bothering to post actual statistics of any kind, I can't either. Life's too short.
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You do know that both New York and California didn't have to use the Hospital ships that was given for them to use?
It is over blown numbers.
And not every case goes to the hospital.
The sources I would use I dokt have access to right now so after work I will